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The Smoking Gun. WTC7 taken down by CONTROLLED demolition. WTC1 and WTC2 as well. What are we to make of this?

Controlled demolition.

In case you have not seen the new documentary, where now thousands of structural engineers, architects, chemical engineers, and physicists are going on record that IT IS NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE that those three buildings could have been brought down by office fires, or by even high-impact 767 crashes in regards to WTC1 and WTC2. (You can watch that documentary when you have time here:)


All...I repeat all...of the three buildings brought down that day...comprising the worst structural "failures" in world history...were done by CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

Incontrovertible. Irrefutable.

And extremely high-tech, high energy military grade explosives which are able to melt steel in a flash, were used.

This is now, without question.

We have solved the what. Now we turn to the how...and then the WHO.

But the government's official accounts, the FEMA and the NIST reports, are so ridden with fraud, gross negligence, and pseudoscience, that those reports...are CRIME SCENES in and of themselves.

We need to start prosecuting right there and then work our way up...but I digress...

3000 innocent citizens and first responders have died! Who will speak for them?? Who will bring them justice??

And hundreds of thousands of family members and friends to the victims who carry the pain with them to this day...deserve a right to know what happened... rather than being insulted by these incompetent, taxpayer-funded government-sponsored cover-ups to the scene of the worst mass murder in American history.

WTC7 was demolished differently than the Twin Towers: All or most of its basement supports were severed at once....as evidenced by the free fall, or fall at the speed of gravity with no resistance, of the first 108 feet.

In other words, 108 feet, you know, 8 to 10 stories of the building of the lower floors, just ceased to exist in an instant.

Where did they go? Did those floors slip into a parallel universe?

Or were they blown to smithereens?

Certainly the truth...wherever it may lie...is not the, fake, forced, fraudulent model reconstruction that NIST (MIST?) tried to shove down the throats of the American taxpayer, $22 Million Dollars later!

As to the destruction of the WTC1 and WTC2 towers...two of the STRONGEST vertical structures on Earth...the entire buildings were laden with nano-thermite, with complete destruction set to begin just below the airplane impact zones, and timed to look like a "normal" gravitational collapse.

It was a brilliant execution.

[Except there is no such thing as a "normal gravitational collapse." Asymmetrical damage (the jet impacts)...can not lead to a symmetrical global collapse. Physically impossible.]

You heard the first collective shaped charge "ka-POW" of the south tower floors being blown apart just below the jet impact area, then the explosions of the other successive floors were timed and were increasingly masked by the continuous roar of the massive demolition wave which gained velocity and amplitude as it plummeted to Earth.

Very clever.

But, eyes don't deceive...and ears don't....thanks to the advent of cameras and cell phone cameras.

Complete gravitational collapse on super-highrises from office fires no matter how hot?

Doesn't happen.

Has never happened in the nearly 100 years of high-rise history.

Will never happen in the future, as long as the Laws of Physics apply....which they will forever.

Unless thermite is involved.

Which may explain the molten iron in a sheer 'waterfall' of molten metal off of the south tower as its upper 30 floor block begins to deform and rotate down, but a block no more, its angular momentum of all that incredible mass, suddenly neutralizing into dust...as the "collapse" accelerates in earnest, traveling down the former path of MOST resistance (the core) that in seconds has become--by being blown to bits--the NEW path of LEAST resistance.

Hmmm. 30 stories pulverized into powder in two seconds. Very strange.

The path of MOST resistance...becoming the path of LEAST resistance. Very strange.

Molten iron. Very strange.

What possibly could turn most of the mass of 350 vertical feet of an acre-sized building, into wisps, in a few seconds? Or melt its steel columns in the same??

Must be something...of course NOT mentioned in the taxpayer funded NIST and FEMA and 9/11 Commission Reports.

Here is the smoking gun to how the controlled demolition was set up...innocuously...with unrecognizable boxes of military-grade super-thermite sol-gel shaped charges, placed in the core areas hidden from the office tenants, against the bare columns in and around the elevator banks.

Super-thermite melts steel with incredible temperature and exrtreme levels of energy.. and pulverizes the concrete and the non-steel contents in mid-air, as Towers 1 and 2 come down.

Literally all of the floor concrete, gypsum wallboard, and FF&E, including elevators and HVAC equipment... for 110 stories of each building, an enormous weight, was pulverized to a toxic powder as fine as talcum, in mid air in seconds...and it spread out like a volcanic pyroclastic flow, over lower Manhattan...while the melted and distorted steel frames, collapse in a heap below.

Watch another the 18 minute presentation here.


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Another "Person of Interest"

"Those who had unlimited access to the Pentagon crash site included Allyn Kilsheimer, an engineer who was often hired by the government to clean-up after terrorist incidents. Kilsheimer was put in charge not only after the Pentagon attack, but also at the site of the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993. When given such an assignment, Kilsheimer expected to have total control over the site, even when the FBI and military were involved, and he usually got it."

Penatgon in 2001, OKC i 1995, WTC in 1993 -- and gets control over everybody including the military and FBI?

Gee ... what are the odds?


And something else ...

3 planes hit buildings that day. All 3 could have been guided by homing devices planted in the buildings.

- AMEC was the (British) company that built the Pentagon wedge that was hit. AMEC also rebuilt it after 9/11, and also got the contract to clean up the twin tower site in NYC, shipping everything off to China without any investigation being conducted. AMEC's directors include people associated with NM Rothschild, SG Warburg, Haliburton (Dick Cheney), and Donald Rumsfeld. Somebody at AMEC could have planted homing devices or bombs at the Pentagon (which could explain why Rumsfeld was nowhere to be found during the time of the events).

- The North Tower in NYC was hit right in the secured computer room of Marsh & McClennan. "Jerry" Bremer was head of Marsh at the time and -- lucky him! -- he decided not to go to work that morning, but he sure was on TV that day pushing hard for war, war, war! And war he would get, as he became the head cheese in Iraq after the invasion. During his "reign" in Iraq, somebody forgot to keep track of where all that oil went. Ooops!

- The South Tower was hit right where Fuji Bank had just ripped out the entire floor (81st) and put in huge batteries. Just a room full of massive batteries. Or, were they batteriers? Could they have been explosives that could be planted throughout the towers? Dunno. But we do know that in the weeks leading up to 9/11, there were several power outages and workers had to go home so that "cable" could be installed throughout the towers by unknown workers.

So, if 3 bigwigs at 3 companies could manage to get somebody to plant homing devices, you could certainly have pinpoint accuracy when planes hit buildings doing around 500mph. Is there any OTHER way for such accuracy?

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All possible. Maybe I can use this to help make my point.

Stay with me here for a minute.
First of all, the odd flight paths of the planes and the ability of amateur pilots to pull off such maneuvers is a big red flag, no doubt. It is also possible the planes were either remote control overridden or even swapped for remote controlled aircraft. There could have been guidance devices planted in the buildings, or even spotters on the ground. All possible.
On the other hand, is it impossible for the hijackers to have actually have flown those planes? We can reasonably assume it is unlikely, but not impossible. We can also reason that if the hijackers did fly the planes, they would have to have had sophisticated and extensive training, far more than a few Cessna lessons.
Now suppose we make the assumption it was impossible, and chase after all the scenarios and potential perpetrators, and omit a thorough investigation of said training. That would amount to a potential wild goose chase. On the other hand, the training necessary to accomplish such maneuvers would leave a trail, and lead directly to who and how. Is it worth the risk to overlook that potential damning evidence? Granted, that could be a wild goose chase in itself, but is it worth overlooking, even if the odds are slim? I say no. The official story is the hijackers flew the planes into the buildings. Ok, how did they get trained? That will answer many questions. Either there is no trail, giving more credence to other scenarios, or the trail will lead us straight to the perps. If we accept the notion it is impossible, we risk never finding out the truth, and possibly allowing the perps a free pass.
This is why I say that to label any portion of this case as "impossible" is sloppy at best, and potentially diversionary, to throw us off the trail.
Let's follow the trail, just to be sure. Here is someone who has been following it. Anyone here familiar with Philip Marshall? This guy knows what he's talking about.
"PHILIP MARSHALL is a veteran airline captain and former government "special activities" contract pilot. His latest book is entitled, The Big Bamboozle; 9/11 and The War on Terror. He has authored three previous books on Top Secret America, a group presently conducting business as the United States Intelligence Community. Beginning with his roles in the 1980s as a Learjet captain within a DEA sting on Pablo Escobar and later in the covert arming of Nicaraguan Contras, Marshall has researched 30 years of covert government activities, a revolving door of Wall Street tricksters, media moguls and their well funded politicians into every branch of our government. Post 9/11, Marshall has led a comprehensive, ten year study into the tactical plan used by the 9/11 hijackers and is the leading aviation expert on the September 11th attack. Philip Marshall began his 20 year career as an airline pilot in 1985, flying first with Eastern Airlines and then with United. He holds captain ratings on the Boeing 727, 737, 747, 757 and 767."
Philip Marshall was smart enough to know there had to be some extensive training. Here are some of his findings:
"- These warnings were found buried in FBI files after 9/11 by congressional investigators. The 9/11 hijackers were training in the Arizona desert from December 2001 until August of 2001.
- Boeing 757 and 767 airliners were parked at an Arizona CIA-funded airport in the spring and summer of 2001.
- A top CIA official connected to that airport was also connected to the Wall Street investment firm that placed put option trades on American (AMR) and United (UAL) in the week preceding the attack."
Any of you turkeys who think I'm on some gubermint payroll or a troll, read this site and come back here and tell me that with a straight face.
I encourage you to listen to his interview with John B. Wells. Coast To Coast. Scroll down to the bottom. It's 38:50, but well worth the time. The training material begins at 28:00.

Be very careful with what possibilities you exclude.

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Amazing. I present well researched data which implicates Bush

and the Bush mob, and I get down voted. Just astounding.

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about the "3 bigwigs planting homing devices," but have always had a suspicion that they were remotely controlled to fly into a homing device.

They have been working on trying to remotely fly aircraft since about 1915.


[edit]Conceptual development
Before World War I, the possibility of using radio to control aircraft intrigued many inventors. One of these, Elmer Sperry, succeeded in arousing the US Navy's interest. Sperry had been perfecting gyroscopes for naval use since 1896 and established the Sperry Gyroscope Company in 1910. In 1911, airplanes had only been flying for eight years, and yet Sperry became intrigued with the concept of applying radio control to them. He realized that for radio control to be effective, automatic stabilization would be essential, so he decided to adapt his naval gyro-stabilizers (which he had developed for destroyers).

Airline pilots that have had thousands of hours in the cockpit have stated that they couldn't hit the towers at those speeds, or it took several times to finally do it. And, the pilots claimed they had go at MUCH slower speeds than what was reported. They basically compared it to trying to park your car in a single garage @ 150mph. They then compared it to trying to drive a semi truck into a jiffy lube at high speeds.
(sorry I don't have the video with simulator animation where they explain it)

If you believe the official "story" the hijackers supposedly couldn't fly a Cessna without difficulty.

There are also questions about the planes exceeding their software limits, and not being able to fly at those speeds at certain altitudes.

Let's set the physics, the expert testimony, and the circumstantial evidence aside for a minute.

For GWB (a former military pilot) and Condi Rice (who had intel of hijackings and attacks in her possession PRIOR to 9/11)to come out a couple of days after the event and say "we had no idea that they would ever use planes as weapons" is absolutely ludicrous. Just those statements alone are suspect.

Had they never heard of the Japanese Kamikaze pilots of WWII?!

Yeah ...

Condi said they couldn't know ... and yet on the VERY DAY (9/11/01) ... THAT MORNING ... the military was running drills of ... what to do if planes are flown into buildings ... and what to do if a plane is hijacked.

Just like on 7/7/05 in London when the police were running drills of what to do if somebody bombs a bus or a subway ... at the EXACT moment it is actually happening for real.

Just like the Denver shooter at the movie theater where, that very day, a school in Denver was running a simulation of what would happen if somebody opened fire in a theater.


Also, less than a month after 9/11, a defense contractor filed for a patent for a remote control system that would (a) disable a jet airliner's pilot controls, (b) fly it to a predetermined destination by computer/remote, and (c) cut off communication from cockpit to air traffic control.

But ... THAT could never happen, right?

Ya just gotta shake yer head at all the deniers out there who can't bear to think their precious gubmint might have some evil people. But they will watch reruns of "The Godfather" all day long.


Here is a website that names names ...

... with a book coming out next year.


Fireant what do you do for a living. What is your profession?

Are you payed to argue on here or what. You keep harping that there is no evidence of thermite/thermate when there IS evidence of it. I have given you this evidence but you ignore it. You are, because it doesn't fit your version or you are being payed to do this. So please tell us what you do for a living so we can see where your infinite knowledge on this matter comes from.

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Stop twisting my words.

I have never said there is no evidence of thermate. There is evidence which could be thermate. I have said over and over the balance of evidence would corroborate detonation. It doesn't.

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It's irrelevant and none of your business.

For the record, as I have previously stated, no one pays me for this. I just do not want Ron Paul's legacy of integrity and honor drug through the mud.
I detest liars, esp regarding an issue of such import.

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if you want to see this thread go away

than quit arguing about it. I agree that this is not the place to talk about this. You keep sucking me into debate. DAM YOU FIREANT DAM YOU!!!!
(in a Ret Butler voice HAHA) I would love to debate these things over a cup of coffee or some thing. But yes I agree this is not the place for it.

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I shouldn't have been so terse with my response Brimichl.

I'd probably enjoy that cup of coffee.
By the way, it's Rhett, not Ret.

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I'm ok with debating this here, and I'm not necessarily out to

make the thread go away. I want the lies exposed, and would prefer OP correct them. 911 is the basis for most political and world views. It's too risky to get it wrong. This thread reminds me of a lynch mob. Suppose, even if the odds are slim, we lynch the "perps", then later find we were wrong. Do you want to live with that? I don't.

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The genius of truth lies in it's simplicity

The genius of evil lies in it's twisted tales, spins, lies, and deception.

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Here's a question for you geniuses.

All of the steel siding which came apart, came apart at their connections to each other. Obviously not all of those connections came apart because we can see pieces falling that were 4, 5 and more panels together. Now those panels were on the sides of the buildings, in plain sight, covered only by aluminum cladding. If thermate was used to cut those connectors, we would have seen sparks flying all over the place on the sides of the building. The aluminum would have been breached in those areas. So how did those connections come apart? And if thermate was used, how did they gain access to those areas? Did they cut drywall on the inside and patch it right away so no one would notice? It's possible they went through the ceiling, but that doesn't add up. The design of the siding was stair stepped, and very few of the joints would have coincided with the ceilings. How would they have known where those joints were? How did those siding joints come apart?

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I admit that I haven't read all

these comments, but enough to get the gist of this thread. I'm not an engineer or materials specialist or otherwise in related fields, but there are many who are who question the rationality of the official report. Furthermore, there are also many other questionable aspects to what happened - re the third tower, for one (two thirds of Americans who feel that it should have been investigated), re evidence and witness testimony that doesn't jibe, as well as issues that concern the parties involved. Many, many Americans question the official story and want further investigation. Do you agree that further investigation would be a good thing, hopefully getting to the bottom of some of these questions?

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

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I want a federal grand jury with subpoena power.

There are too many unanswered questions to let it lie.

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How do you explain it

How do you explain it happening at all??????? From an airplane crash or do you just not care? What is your point anyway?

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And yes, it is possible the airplane crashes are the cause of

all the damage we witnessed that day. When you study the entire body of evidence, rather than the selected evidence fed by the "demo" hucksters, you will find it indeed possible.

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My point is this thread states emphatically the buildings were

demoed, AND states it is IMPOSSIBLE for there to have been any other explanation.
Those are dangerous and reckless claims, the type claims used by con artists. Those claims cannot be proven. They are lies.
It is not up to me to explain anything, but up to the poster to prove it. He can't.

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Blah blah blah. Do you not see that every (EVERY) post...

...you make, is down-voted to the greatest degree?

Could it be that you are ignorant of science and physics?

Or worse, could it be that you are trying to disinform with a bunch of spin nonsense?

I know you want me to remove my forum....because it blows the lid off of your government coverup.

But I am not going to do that.

It will remain. Actually...the truth will not go away. It will only increase in pressure as time goes on.

You have made yourself clear, by your eel-like slipping out of the fish net, that truth to you is relative, and an illusion.

Got news for you. It is not.

And the Truth knows no boundaries, has no favorites, nor is it trying to make any friends.


And...no matter how hard you try with your disinformation "magic"...you will never be able to cover it up.

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Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

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More lies.

I don't think you'd know the truth if you tripped over it.
Why use such rhetorical nonsense if you have the truth? Since I object to your premise, which is a lie, you claim I am part of a "government cover-up". How can you make such an absurd claim? Either you have a little bitty mind, or you are a con artist, attempting to erase all possibility except your story; oldest confidence trick in the book. What is your agenda?
If the cores of the buildings were "taken out" in order to drop the buildings, why was at least one core still standing?

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Even very young children know

Even very young children know the difference between fact and fantasy. I don’t believe in fairy tales any more. There is not one shred of evidence to support the lies our government has told us. The items they present as proof consist of picture ID’s and cloth bandanna’s from the very bodies of the “ terrorist ’’who were inside the plane. These items were not even singed. It is a slap in the face of human decency to pretend such utter nonsense could be possible.

And Obama & Romney STILL think it was the rag tags Al Queda

But really, underneath it all, they KNOW what really happened, but they are crazed for power, so they convince themselves to rationalize it!

They could have cut the core column only.

And leave the outside walls to fall apart on there own.

How could they put thermate in to the buildings.

I have a question for you. Who was in charge of security at the wtc before 9/11?

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Could have, sure. If so, why was the core still standing post

collapse? Does that make sense?
And if so, how did the floor joists get disconnected from the walls?

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The fires

I know that those few fires inside building #7 had nothing to do with the actual building collapsing.
I do know that there were many very important documents inside that building. Some were files from the securities exchange commission, that were completely destroyed of course.

My point is that it was said that buiding #7 caught fire as a result of one of the planes hitting the twin towers.

Did anyone actually see building #7 get hit by any firey debris?

Were those few office fires set by someone inside?

Those connected with this had to make it look like fire brought it down ( for the many that would believe that through MSM telling them so ) and so they could not take a chance that firey debris would hit it, and therefore set the office fires from inside the building?

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

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How do you know that?

That the fires had nothing to do with the collapse of building 7. What makes you think they were "few"? Have you read the fire dept statements and transcripts which state the fires were 4 alarm upon arrival and got worse during the day? "They were all over the whole area" one fireman stated, referring to the fires in the huge gouge in the south side, at least 20 stories high. And that was early in the day. Those fires most certainly could have played a role in the collapse.
And as for your main point, since we can see 7 getting pummeled with smoke laden debris, and since every building that received major damage from 1WTC falling also caught on fire, it's not at all a stretch to think the collapse of 1 started those fires. It would be a stretch to think they didn't.

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Building 7 was taken down by

Building 7 was taken down by demolition. The owner states that he told them to "PULL IT". You can see him on the LOOSE CHANGE video.