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A critical poster for Atlas Shrugged

This is an illustrated picture of the problem with Atlas Shrugged. doodled.

I disagree that it is a small problem with not knowing the exact Greek legend. If a work is about objective external reality, it is a critically significant problem. It's the *title* of the book. It's completely central to the work.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/106137842/Atlas-Shrugged#page=1

One of more than five problems before you get past the first page. Enjoy.



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And the thread is still real

And the thread is still real sparse on why actual reality matters in your imagination, or which way you are facing - right side up or upside down - matters if you shrug.

And here I am about to move onto fact #2 of why Rand isn't objective at all, and all we have is a thread with no discussion or critical thinking, down votes, and a bunch of herd behavior with the same.

Incapable of critical reasoning. The Talmud says do not suffer fools gladly (quote from book of the religion Rand was raised in). All I'm saying is Ayn Rand was as good as her book. She went on strike, and didn't owe the reader anything.

I'm not applauding it. Don't approve of it. And don't believe in the Talmud. I'm just observing it. Post #2 coming soon.

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Also, I notice the New

Also, I notice the New Testament uses a version of this quote - therefore it was standard st that time:

2Cr 11:19 For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye [yourselves] are wise.

I posted the original because I'm still holding that it's a farce and in keeping with Rand's nature. And actually beginning to agree with Rand that most people out there are idiots. That doesn't excuse the fact that this book is usually funded by charity to be given to kids, probably too young to get most of the farcical parts.

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Nice poster. Provokes thought, which I'm always in favor of

Many people in our society have an "Atlas Complex." They think they're the only ones holding up the world, and if they were to shrug, it would collapse. They feel such a sense of self importance, that they would never dare shrug. (But rarely is the Atlas complex justified)

Other "Atlas Complex" sufferers are simply misguided. They feel terribly burdened by having to carry the weight of the world on their shoulders - day in, day out - without any appreciation for them or their efforts. "Its a tough job, but someone's got to do it." This type would also never dare shrug, not out of a sense of self importance, but out of a sense of guilt and fear.

Anyway, this is probably not your point, but this is what it made me think of.

As to your point, yes, I get it too, and it is funny. Rand is all about "objectivism." But she never understood that all "objectivism" is subjective. And there it is right in the title. Brilliant observation!

Unfortunately, this is way above the thought plane of the people who voted you down. They are likely doing that as an emotional reaction - they liked the book, they believe in it, so they can't stand any criticism of it.

I liked the book, too but I'm not emotionally attached to it. To any of it.

I am going to practice more shrugging in the immediate future, however.

Thank you.

He's the man.

It's a great farce perhaps - part II

"I am going to practice more shrugging in the immediate future, however."

You've made a nice site for people Michael, and I hope you don't fall on your head by shrugging.

For part two of 'Atlas Shrugged - and fell on his head': Isn't it odd that Ayn Rand is specifically making note of Aristotle's three laws of thought in her section names and also mentions it in her author background published with her book? She seems to want the reader to pay attention to it.

Aristotle is the person mentioned by the real objectivists in the scientific revolution of the middle ages as not being objective. In fact, Aristotle is specifically mentioned in connection with gravity like the cover mentioned in this thread. Galileo mentioned Aristotle in his famous gravity example - feathers do not fall less fast than balls in the absence of air friction. Francis Bacon, father of the scientific method, mentioned Aristotle and this example about gravity again, as well as many other examples. Bacon even wrote a whole book with the title based off of Aristotle's - translated it said "A new method", or a new instrument.

A new method - an objective scientific method. It's strange that the most well known example of Aristotle getting it wrong - which involved gravity (there are plenty of other examples), is on the cover of Atlas Shrugged, and the person most singled out for being non-objective by western scientific forefathers, is lauded in a book "for" "objectivists".

I think the point is - you can imagine things that can't actually exist, like a giant holding up the earth - physically impossible because of gravity. And Rand takes it on into the logic.

It's a great farce, perhaps. But it can only be a farce to be great.

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SteveMT's picture

I guess you had nothing better to do than doodle at 4am.

You may think that making a satirical picture diminishes Ayn Rand's book and/or inflates your own ego, but it does neither. You have some personal vendetta against Ayn Rand, Thomas Paine, and maybe even Eric Blair. Their works stand as a testament to and a warning against allowing the machinations of evil men in this world to prevail. Atlas Shrugged was published in 1957. Yet, the book correctly predicted coming events that are happening right now before our eyes. Blair and Paine were just as successful. Belittling these deceased authors is beneath you Max. Let it go. Appreciate that what they accomplished is to be applauded, not ridiculed. They predicted the future by using in hindsight, their innate but very keen commonsense.

I have never posted on Blair,

I have never posted on Blair, and don't even know (or care to know) who he was.

Paine was a socialist widely disliked by the actual founding fathers of this country. This fact seems to be overlooked by people who want an atheist figure to laud. And his socialism makes most socialists look moderate - although socialism's spread has getting worse.

When you push Paine, you're pushing socialism.

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they all have one thing in common

they were anti religious. max does not care much for atheist so he has made it his mission to attack them and their philosophy. yes it's petty but that is what he has been doing. max won't rest until he has purged the atheist from the freedom movement. he's a man on a mission from god.

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I hate argument by idolatry.

I am a Christian. And therefore, yes, I am God's. He has redeemed me and paid for me with his blood.

However, I've posted on other people's trash that aren't atheists just as much.

I've been just as critical of CS Lewis.

I correctly posted on Cain long before his scandals brought him down and pointed out things from his intro video from the Florida strawpoll that indicated it.

One thing that probably makes me want to post on an author or public figure is when too many people start idolizing that person instead of using critical thinking. I hate argument by idolatry.

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Evils of Idolatry

+1. Wisdom 14:27-30 Good News Translation (GNT)

27 The worship of idols, whose names should never be spoken, is the beginning and the end, the cause and the result of every evil. 28 People who worship them lose control of themselves in ecstasy, or pass off lies as prophecies, or live wickedly, or break their word without hesitation. 29 They tell lies under oath and expect no punishment, because the idols they put their trust in are lifeless. 30 But punishment will finally catch up with them, for two reasons: first, they were in error ... ~ ...".
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Wisdom%2014:27-3...

I think this is very interesting

and worth pondering, thanks for sharing this.

Wish I was smarter to understand just how screwed I am but alas, my mother used to say "Ignorance is bless", I never liked that saying but indeed my mother was extremely intelligent and wise.

So many layers of deception, so many deceivers. If I could walk though the wall of deception I wonder what I would find on the other side? Maybe for my sanity it is better not to know.

"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

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LoL! You are one of the few that

will make it through this mess. How do I know? Your heart is giving even when you talk otherwise. Your heart cannot hide its' goodness.

I guess you are as screwed as I to make others see their way though the morass. It is coming and you and I know it. Keep the faith of goodness in others. You have it on a string. Close your eyes at anytime and see the bright flash of love on this earth. It will be those of us that promote following the heart that guides others to safety.

The reason I say follow the heart is we will see the evil for their hearts and actions. They cannot hide nor can we. The war has been fought and WE won. Now we must see it to fruition on this plane. There is NO CHANGING it. It is done. All we can do now is bring as many as we can into the goodness we follow.

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

Hi! Jim

Thank you for your optimism for me I am going to just take it one day at a time.

I do feel bad for everyone, all this just doesn't make sense to me.
The world could have been such a different place.

Interesting times we live and I plan on just watching as things unfold trying to observe and put pieces together but I doubt I am capable of it.

I think this will all take years to go down but it is going to be a bumpy journey.

I thank you for your wisdom and kindness to me and wish you and yours all the best.

"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

Ayn Rand's philosophy of selfishness

will lead to slavery (it already has). Satanism takes the same view. If we are not willing to love and sacrifice for others to be free, liberty is doomed.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Actually, Rand makes a mock

Actually, Rand makes a mock at taking the mark of the beast in section II of the book, but by that time most readers have fallen asleep and don't notice it.

That will have to wait for later literary review. We're not passed the first page yet, or why gravity is part of reality.

What does it matter. Shrug! THUD.

Ow!

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Rothbard always said Rand was

Rothbard always said Rand was colossally ignorant.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/mozart.html

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The hell is this self

The hell is this self congratulatory thread?

Southern Agrarian

No, that would be the

No, that would be the dedicating the book to her husband and person she was having an affair with.

Facial, but also evil. Who does something like that?

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Some more hell - but not my making

And yes, it's relevant to all you shruggers out there.

It's part of her author background information in the book too. She both lies about it directly, and invites the reader to make comparisons to her life and the book.

Ok, here's some comparisons. A person that would lie to the reader would also make fun of the reader in the title - as a farce (of a sort).

Keeping your marriage vows is important. A person who would break their oath there would anywhere - in fact Rearden sells out America (symbolized by a Statue of Liberty) in the book over his adultery - which lasts all a few chapters until Dagny sleeps with another one.

What does oath keeping matter. Shrug. ow!!

Stupid Americans.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/greenspan-dumb-americans-deserve...

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Two down votes already -

Two down votes already - critical thinking is BAAAD.

My movie poster has come to witness to the farce.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

What?

Why try to take it literally? It's an allegory.

Yes, why think. That is

Yes, why think. That is exactly what the book is about. Shrug.

An excellent allegory.

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confused

The book certainly wasn't about Greek mythology either. Atlas was supposed to hold up the sky to keep it separated from the earth, but that's not exactly easy to make into a statue, or relevant to the book. I'm sure the character was referring to the popular depictions of Atlas rather than the original myth itself.

I mean if you wanted to make a call for a truly objective description of this, the conclusion shouldn't be 'tell the myth accurately', it would be 'there is no atlas' wouldn't it?

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As my poster points out, you

As my poster points out, you don't need to know the Greek legend to know that it is wrong.

You just have to know the very basics of basics of objective reality and follow through on your thinking.

That is what the book is about actually. People not being objective, and following the "in crowd", instead of thinking for themselves.

But that makes it a farce. A mean one for people who don't get it. And it is hardly the very title of the book. It's that way throughout.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

But what does it matter.

But what does it matter. Shrug. Splat. Ow!

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Lazy, stupid, and

Lazy, stupid, and unproductive Americans.
Alan Greenspan. (Ayn Rand inner circle & writer/contributor to her books).
http://www.infowars.com/greenspan-dumb-americans-deserve-une...

Hmmm. Shrug. Ow!

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

...

Splat. Ow. Following the symbolism through.

I guess thinking matters. Ow.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.