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Gigi Bowman: I really will just stop coming here, and so will a lot of people...

Friends of Liberty & Peace!

LM the Liberty Movement keeps growing and some people from the 'dark side' decided to attack it where the LM's heart is -- this website.

How do we respond?
Any ideas?

Here is my good friend Gigi Bowman president of Liberty Candidates
http://libertycandidates.com/ on this issue:

"it's really sad when someone votes this down. Isn't this what Ron Paul's message was all about? Isn't' this The Daily Paul? Yet someone had the nerve to vote this down.

Now I know for a fact that there are just mean spirited people on this site. That says it all right there.

Sad really. What was the point of the last 5+ years if we can't even understand how these men and women stepped up to run for office on the inspiration of Ron Paul and we can't support them?

I really will just stop coming here, and so will a lot of people if this has turned into the Daily Troll."

She was refering to her activist post that was down-voted today.

Liberty Candidates Constitution Day Fundraiser ~ September 17, 2012 TODAY!
http://www.dailypaul.com/255138/liberty-candidates-constitut...

Now watch all the down-voters come here.

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Well I'm lost

The post you linked to has 26 + votes, it's in the upper box of long term posts, and it has nothing but bumps and good comments. Perhaps I am misunderstanding this post.

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

it was only + 12

-- when I created this post.

Took off after I posted this here on the Daily Paul.

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How About Some Action Items?

You know, create some goal, set a date, combine lots of people's efforts, let the local media know something is going on...

Pandas can't drive.

Libertycandidates.com has a

Libertycandidates.com has a very positive image. Bowman's work on that project is viewed positively too. It may take time but it is off to a good start. imo

What do you think about the No Labels group?

What do you think about No Labels? One of the "Liberty Candidates" that Gigi is pushing Michael McDermott works for No Labels.

So what

if people down vote something...that should not cause anyone to rethink their plans or commitment.
This is the easy part of what is going to become a struggle of the ages.

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

I don't donate anymore

to candidates, I am afraid if Jesus came back I probably wouldn't donate to his election either because I am so disappointed over the last five years of pouring money into campaigns and the money going down a hole.

I wish them all well, but I don't trust people anymore just because they say they are Liberty candidates. I realize the pressure is just to great against them, that if they do not conform their lives and families could be in danger.

I would rather look for other avenues to help spread the message other than elected office.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

yes, we are all free to voice

yes, we are all free to voice our opinion. But what opinion is there to be negative about those running on the inspiration of Ron Paul when it is the one day they are hoping to collect donations in a campaign season that has been very hard on them because so many are tapped out donating to Ron Paul.

All I did was post the fundraiser and a link and the fact that is was voted down on a site named "The Daily Paul" is a bit abhorrant. The fact that this fundraiser wasn't even sent out in the Daily Paul letter that goes to our personal mailboxes is pretty sad as well.

Anyway, Here is a shoutout to all the liberty candidates running for office all over the country. These brave men and women deserve a little bit more respect from Ron Paul supporters.

www.libertycandidates.com

Big hug Gigi for all that you do

You are a shining star when I look at the sky tonight.
You rock!

I admire you so much -- the energy you have to do so many activist projects ALL AT ONCE is jaw dropping....

This organic beer is to you!

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

I don't know who down voted

but burnout causes people to do stuff they normally wouldn't do.

People are exhausted and yes they are very broke and that may have been the button that they could not take (more money). I don't know but just a guess.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

GiGi Bowman

Is the best of us. I'm sorry if her feelings were hurt. I think the fundraiser idea just pisses people off because they perceive that Jesse Benton (the backstabber?) took so much of what we gave and then betrayed the cause. This left a bad taste for fundraisers. Just unfortunate bad timing I think.

Gigi, and fest connected.

Stay up. There is a lot of stuff going down, a lot of heat. Hang in there, things will lessen up after the election.

I don't know what is going on with all this, guilty of anything or not. But, you know how it is, when your in the forefront, your the target.

And, I know what that is like.

We are just going to have to deal with whats happening here right now.
I am involved in trying to get the RP write-in validated in NYS. I am putting up with flack from that. Nothing new.

Democracy

Is not a good voice of priority. seriously this site is complete based off other people's opinions and among them are also Romney trolls if i may remind you. FTR that thread has not been down voted into the negative...

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

We have to realize

the Daily Paul is among sites that have helped our movement become powerful.

Early American patriots had to communicate by horseback. Communication with one another is so key in any movement. We're so spoiled to have the Internet! What an aid to Liberty!

Once you understand the power of communication it's easy to see some would want to undermine/sabotage it.

Please be proactive in keeping this site a helpful and useful tool in the fight to regain Liberty!

Thank you

Well said.

Imagine if Ross Perot had internet as a tool to spread his message back in 1992.

I cherish the Daily Paul with all my heart.
This site in my opinion is the heart of the Liberty Movement and I hope it will remain this way all the way until the Republic is restored.

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
http://www.dailypaul.com/203008/south-carolina-battle-of-cow...
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Perhaps we should require

Perhaps we should require people to take a "thought test" before they post on the daily paul in case someone thinks something different or unpopular. You know... just to make sure they aren't a troll.

[End Sarcasm]

hmm

I was born in at the time Communist Poland when we had only two tv channels and all newspapers carried the Comunist line. I abhore censorship.

There are posting guidelines on the Daily Paul -- many people don't follow them - they launch personal attacks against other DP members calling names and creating flame-wars here -- is that ok in your view?

I created this post as a way to search for answers.

Thanks for commenting.

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
http://www.dailypaul.com/203008/south-carolina-battle-of-cow...
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Calling names, and launching

Calling names, and launching personal attacks is not the conduct of a gentleman or lady. Some basic rules adopted by the members to ensure an "adult level" of conversation are fine by me, but they should not be used to punish someone for their opinion. Even if they are an Obama supporter and die-hard progressive.

I run a site completely unrelated to politics and ron paul

and what I've found is that there are only a small amount of trolls and they aren't that bad. What's worse are the hysterical crybabies going on and on and on about trolls obsessively. They make everyone paranoid and anxious and just serve to increase the in-fighting.

Another thing of note re trolls is it's standard to say they thrive on negative attention. We have something on here that gives a measure of negative attention i.e. downvotes...and here you are actively seeking/predicting downvotes.

Incidentally trolls rarely realise they are trolls...do you? ;)

You should know...

My comments and posts are targeted here because I am seen as the nr 1 Gary Johnson activist here -- therefore I have become (for a long time) a target of the 'Gary Johnson haters brigade'.

Sick and tired of this.

Have you read what Gigi Bowman said on this subject?
She is in my opnion the hardest working activist in America.
And I value her opinion very much -- it pains me to see her being upset and thinking about leaving this site.

Sir I don't know if you are an activist or not but anyways thank you for voicing your opinion on this subject.

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
http://www.dailypaul.com/203008/south-carolina-battle-of-cow...
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15