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w t f is this? UFO War: Chinese and US Navy off San Francisco

This last week, reports of Chinese naval vessels off the US coast, Northern Californian in particular, have been reported but denied.

Now an Asian intelligence agency reports that a combined fleet operation between the US and China has been going on, a full combat operation against what we are told is a “highly unfriendly extra-terrestrial threat.”

More at:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-...




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An addendum to this subject

An addendum to this subject from Gordon Duff as of today:

"I have had one implied threat, which is almost laughable as I am a board member of a multinational defense firm larger than most armies. I have also had several contact of a very suspicious nature, had one verified Homeland Security computer attack which the software the DOD supplied me with caught, quite embarrassing also.

Then, yesterday, Press TV in Iran called on my wife’s mobile. It flashed US Government for a second. It seems DHS’s bugging capability crashed.

If they hire us, I am sure we can fix that for them."

Historically, governmental agencies don't voluntarily like to cooperate so there is some hope. Let the DHS implode along with the members of the US Congress which approved the monstrosity. ;)

If the Chinese Navy is offshore...

and working an exercise with the US Navy, then the conclusion I can reasonabley reach is that the "hostility" between the two governments is BS...just as the hostility between Russia and the US is crap. "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"...meanwhile, behind closed doors Ronny and Mikey were doing shots and laughing all the way to the bank! Think of "1984" and the war between Oceana, Eurasia, etc...all contrived and false to keep the populations oppressed. There isn't much in that story that ISN'T accurate...why not the percieved "war"?
So, when Amerika runs out of nations to be fighting with, let's go all "Battle: Los Angeles" on the people!! Think of the panic that ensued during the original broadcast of Orson Wells' "War of the Worlds". Perhaps in our near future, the entire east coast will be scared to death that the aliens have captured everything up to the Rockies..and the west-coasters will be scared to death that the aliens have captured everything east of the Missippi. Digital television can be manipulated to show you anything THEY desire.

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"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

This will do wonders for our credibility...

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lol...

The nature of the beast. There are the intellectuals in the movement, which in 2008 were a huge percentage of the total. But now, are relatively few and far between. I have mostly given up on trying to reason with so many among our ranks.

I love the fact that it is positive on votes...

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http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

It's entertaining.

Don't see any reason for downvoting others' posts unless it's completely idiotic.

Yes, I consider telling me to vote for Romney far more idiotic than silly but entertaining posts about UFOs.

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LOL!!! Where's my tinfoil hat?

I know this will induce eyerolls from lots of you, but I will add to the apparent absurdity of this thread by adding a little tidbit of my own:

Google the words "Operation Majority" by thewatcherfiles.

Hey, ya never know. :)

processing . . .

I think the 'evil ones' are up to something and . . .

most Americans are very easily duped--

but I could be wrong, too--

doubt it--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Genesis

Gene of Isis - propensity for evil built in to our DNA
Man is not of this world, Michael Tsarion speaks on the manipulation and how the ego was born. Ego-A knee jerk reaction born out of a cataclysmic event in man's genetic history.

Once the elites get their NWO global government there will be no need for “national security”…right.

Yes, well, no…, that is where the threat from above and/or below come in. We will need to create an “international or global security force” to protect us from the rogue alien races that want to control us.

The problem for us is that we cannot tell the difference between one of the ET crafts from a MIC/NASA craft.

I feel bad for control freaks because they spend all that time trying to control, rather than pursue an individual higher calling.
Don't these guys ever stop and smoke a joint now and then. Sheesh....

Wait a minute, wait a minute...

...wasn't this same fleet off California (recently) that was supposed to have been holding 400 arrested Elites? This isn't about UFOs or Illuminati; there is something else going on here. If I didn't know any better I'd say it has David Booth (Sorcha Faal) or someone like him, written all over it. Total BS. Any alternative guesses out there?

Seriously

I have watched every episode of Ancient Aliens. I did research into the "inner earth theory" and was way into Area 51 and the Roswell incident as a child. I went down a rabbit trail of fact this and fact that.

I have drawn my conclusions and I think Aliens are NOT REAL. The reason I say that is, if it was supposed to be a secret, then why is THAT material so much more readily available and uncensored compared to that of the Federal Reserve?

I believe the the Roswell incident was a cover up for a cover up. What I mean is, they wanted everyone to buy the UFO story. This technology was heavily sought after by Hitler's regime. I believe it was the work of the Bankers behind the curtain. Project paper clip brought over several Nazi scientist. This is how America formed NASA. I believe that we have had the technology for quite some time, but they don't won't the public to know they have the technology.

Another fear tactic for a later time.

Ron brought the Liberty movement together, Rand is expanding the crap out of it! :)

Weird

A friend and I were talking about the same topic the other day. My feelings are that the whole "UFO" thing was to cover up the science fiction, high tech, military equipment we have today. Take just one example, the silent helicopter that has now been exposed. It has a "skin" that makes it silent until it is right on top of you. Another example of thousands is the "new" lightning gun the military just recently announced. Tesla had plans for free alternative energy a long time ago, the government took all of his records, patented them and secretly worked on them. What do you think HAARP is?? The alien thing has all been a cover for the military industrial complex. Drones and robots now shown. Can you imagine what they have that we DON'T know about?? Those lights we saw in the sky weren't aliens, they were the US military. We are suckers.

visible any night

they are of earth (thanks to Tesla)

these type of aircraft are visible every night and have been for decades - in the same relative positions in the starfield.

They look like stars until you watch a little closer - the sparkle and flash as opposed to the gentle blue-green 'twinkle' of stars.

As a telescope-using friend of mine remarked - "well, that's certainly NOT a star". They sparkle and vary in color, changing from yellow to red, blue, green. Visible any clear night, no exceptions, in formation.

The FED is only 100 years old

Ancient civilizations have had thousands of years to carve their experiences into stone for the world to see. Is there a site somewhere that have the motives of the FED set in stone?

People have gotten very good at manipulating world perspectives to suit their agenda of maintaining control by making us all narrow minded. You need to open your mind because anything is possible. I learned that not too long ago and have had my mind blown by some of the things that I see around the world. It makes the lies very easy to spot over time. Give it time and keep asking questions. That's the only way the answers will come.

But as my comment below states, I agree 100% that the government has the tech to fake aliens.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

I will tell you

This is where I get religious. I believe the evedince is REAL. The evidence dosen't point toward Aliens. It points to fallen angels. In every religion that dates back, the was a great flood. We know this happened. The Old Testimate teaches that God did it to rid earth of the evil it had become. Nephylium, and technological advancements were too evil for its time that is the reason for the evidence. Did you see the ancient piece that looked like an airplane? Probably because there were freaking airplanes in ancient times. This is not the work of aliens, but demons who were rejected by God and cast out of his kingdom. This explains the evidence that shows orbs or lights in the sky that defys the laws of gravity. When you see a light move 100 miles while taking sharp cuts, you have you begin to understand that is a supernatural being. This would explain why the Elite still practice their religion. Why millions of kids disappear around the world every year. The Elite have used religion as a tool for control of the masses, and they believe that their practices bring them power. Have you seen the footage from the Bohiemian grove? Very compelling.

Not to sound like a nut here, but the evidence is very compelling.
I have spent a lot of time and research into this, and it is just my opinion.

Ron brought the Liberty movement together, Rand is expanding the crap out of it! :)

I have spent allot of time researching this too

I am nearly 100% sure that aliens are actually fallen angels. One thing I want to really point out is the flood was caused due to corrupted DNA. What Im about to say can be found in Gensis and other books such as Enoch.

In the Bible it talks about how the sons of God(fallen angels) had sex with the women. This resulted in giants - Nephilim. It also says that the last days on earth will be like they were in the time of Noah. Well in the time of Noah these fallen angels had sex with the women. They also were tampering with the human genome altering the DNA. They were corrupting the DNA of man in the hopes they could impurify/corrupt the blood of all humans to prevent Jesus from being born. Well they failed. God created the flood. Do I believe it was truely world wide? No, I believe God made it big enough to wipe most of these fallen angels out.

Here's one verse:
Gen 6:4 “There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

Also the offspring were gods, like we see in ancient Greek mythology.
But the main reason I referenced this verse is to show these evil fallen angels still exist today and are on the earth. These same beings are working today once again to corrupt the DNA. Think of the GMO's, nanoparticles, all this genetic stuff they are doing. Well this is why the Bible also says this:
Jesus prophesied that in the last days, it will be as it was in the "days of Noah" (Mat 24:37) and the "days of Lot" (Luke 17:28).

Now what I believe this means is the genetic tampering. When it reaches a tipping point, thats when Jesus will return to stop it. It's not that the flood was sent because people were having orgies and lustful and giving into sin, etc... it was due to the genetic tampering that corrups the human DNA that God created.

Oh and not all angels had sex with women. God did not punish them as harshly. Here is a good site:
http://judahsdaughter.hubpages.com/hub/GIANTS-on-the-EARTH

Also one more thing to note, Satan was of the air. That was the type of angel he was. These fallen angels are very knowledgeable and have many areas of expertise. They know how to space travel, heal, perform precise advanced surgery that we have no idea how to, and all sorts of other things that seem science fiction to most.

When the fallen angels came to various parts of the world and showed up in their "UFOs", they also taught all sorts of forbidden knowledge such as magic, body decoration, genetic tampering, etc... They want to be worshiped like God.

Also wanted to mention and talk a little about the abductions... Abductions are experiments conducted in order to create vessels for their spirits. The ones that were physically killed have a spirit. These are called demons. These demons want to walk the earth but need a body vessel. These fallen angels have even created their own "alien" race. I believe one of these races are the greys. So there are fallen angels in their original form, fallen angels in demon form because they lost their bodies, demons who posses human bodies, and demons who go around in another alien form they created.

If you are reading this, please look into this further. This post was triggered in response to ctkelly85's response. I wanted to put this out there to hopefully help other people to see how this is all connected. It helped me connect allot of dots and make sense of UFOs and I hope I can help others see whats going on.

I know this all sounds crazy but I have spent allot of time researching this stuff. There is enormous amounts of evidence backing what I said.

In my opinion here is what I believe is the ultimate goal and what I think will happen. I believe there will be a great deception that will fool even some Christians. I believe the fallen angels will show up on earth(rather than staying hidden and secret as they are for the most part today) and perform "miracles" and do things that we think are impossible. They will come under the guise of helping us. I believe they will either have one who will claim to be God, or they will try to convince people that they are gods and ask/demand that we worship them.

Interesting

You say the Elite have used religion as a tool for mass control yet you yourself seem to have strong religious beliefs.

You say say "fallen angels" and new discoveries say "extra-dimensional beings"

A flood did occur due to changes the Earth constantly goes through and yes, more and more ancient monuments are being discovered under water all over the world that date to over 10,000 years old. Christian religion says humanity is only 5,000 years old. So clearly Religion doesn't have all the answers. Seems more like centuries of disinformation. There is a 12,000 year old site that was discovered in Gobekli Tepe in Turkey as well.

Quantum Science is now proving the existence of human spirituality, something the church hasn't done in 2,000 years. It proves we are actually energetic being to the core. We are highly condenses spirits taking form as humans. This isn't nutty theory, this is becoming scientific fact.

The Egyptians had no division between spirituality and science. They actually studied the spirit world as well as the afterlife and the expansion of consciousness. Why do you think the illuminati and the masons took on such strong Egyptian knowledge and have tried to keep it within their "clubs" for their initiated? Because the truth is that all religions are simply metaphors for one divine Truth we all share.

I haven't read it yet but I intend to, a new book called "God Is Not Dead" by Amit Goswami. He's a quantum physicist that links new discoveries with ancient and religious teachings and proves a "God" exists. I prefer the term "Intelligent Consciousness"—we are all a part of it, Christians and Atheists alike.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

A few issues.

Nowhere does Christianity say that the world is 5,000/6,000 years old. In Hebrew, "father" (mainly in family histories) can also be translated as ancestor, meaning that between notable individuals, there could be hundreds or thousands of years. That timespan was suggested by a medieval scholar, if I'm not mistaken, who took "father" literally.

Just curious, but how can quantum science prove anything that is outside the scope of physical evidence? The existence of the soul can only be proven philosophically, because it is by definition not physical in any way. The knowledge that basically everything is a form of energy isn't all that new.

That's exactly how it is proving it

By accepting a non-physical foundation and conducting studies with that in mind, the results have supported this old knowledge.

"The existence of the soul can only be proven philosophically, because it is by definition not physical in any way."

False actually. Studies have been done on people during time of death upon which the body's weight was reduced by a few grams suggesting that something "leaves" the body. Sure you can't take a picture of it (yet?) but the studies prove there is something there. Similar studies were done on people who had induced out of body experiences. Similar reductions in body weight were recorded AND once the person was "brought back" the weight returned.

Check out a fantastic book documenting these and other amazing new discoveries called, "The Source Field Investigations" for more mind blowing evidence.

Also, my reference of the 5,000 years of human existence was just the general belief many Christians have for some reason. I appreciate your clarification :)

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

No problem. :)

And I likewise appreciate that you responded rationally. I don't have time at the moment, but I'll have to look into some of that stuff. If nothing else, it's interesting, even if I don't buy into it (Which is the reason I upvoted this thread, actually. It's friggin' fun to read.).

Personally, my view on the whole "alien" thing is that most of it is natural, if really weird. I wouldn't have any trouble believing that the feds would use UFOs as a false flag, either. With all the sci-fi tech we have (the Navy has literal, functioning laser cannons and is working on a railgun), they're going to need to justify it pretty soon, and what better way than to bring in a sci-fi enemy? Bonus points for attempting to form a global military.

We're all in this together :)

Thank you for the respectful conversation regardless of our individual views. It doesn't happen often especially when talking Religion and Science.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

No problem. :)

And I likewise appreciate that you responded rationally. I don't have time at the moment, but I'll have to look into some of that stuff. If nothing else, it's interesting, even if I don't buy into it (Which is the reason I upvoted this thread, actually. It's friggin' fun to read.).

Personally, my view on the whole "alien" thing is that most of it is natural, if really weird. I wouldn't have any trouble believing that the feds would use UFOs as a false flag, either. With all the sci-fi tech we have (the Navy has literal, functioning laser cannons and is working on a railgun), they're going to need to justify it pretty soon, and what better way than to bring in a sci-fi enemy? Bonus points for attempting to form a global military.

E.T.s are peaceful

I always thought that if extraterrestrials came to earth on their spaceships that surely meant that they were far more advanced than us.
And therefore I also think that they would be far more advanced than us from a philosophical point of view.

Which means that they already know what many of us here know but that most of the world ignores: The initiation of force is wrong.
Which means that we don't have to worry about extraterrestrials, they are probably all libertarians.

So I can only come to the conclusion that this story is pure bullsh*t or that the US and Chinese governments are threatening the peaceful aliens.

Doubtful.

Personally, I don't think aliens exist, though I don't rule it out. But take a look around. You know what diet is most associated with high intelligence? A carnivorous diet. Humans (omnivores), apes & chimp (also omnivores), wolves, big cats, sharks, and dolphins are the most intelligent animals on the planet, and all of them are quite violent (except dolphins, who seem to like humans).

Is Predation Consistent Throughout The Cosmos

or only on earth? ;) Because of its level of discomfort, many people ignore reality, i.e. the physical (fallen if you prefer) world is ruled by predation for its very survival. If the physical world is ruled by predation, then, for the sake of consistency, is the non-physical world ruled by predation also? ... (a scary thought). Like humanity's warring, I do adhere to the view that a WAR exists between heavenly entities (normally non-physical) as well, but those entities don't necessarily prey on one another. Predation seems to occur from more complex physical forms to lower physical forms as most humans don't prey on one another either.

With that said, the circumstantial evidence does indicate that some non-physical entities do prey on physical entities on one level, e.g. cattle mutilations. Why on earth (literally) would a non-physical entity need to prey on a physical entity at all? This question raises potentially disturbing questions. For example, is a normally non-physical entity attempting to create a different form in order to manifest and prey on a different level from their normal state in the physical world, e.g. a light or sphere? In our current world, predation exists where PHYSICAL, i.e. something observable by humanity's sensory system, forms manifest.

For the sake of conjecture whether you believe Christian theology or not, was it necessary for God to place Adam & Eve (physical bodies) in a protected environment? Apparently, the world was in a fallen state, i.e. a state of predation, when God created Adam & Eve.

100% Agreed!

Many people here on earth are discovering Truths that will lead to the unification of our human civilization. Beyond the initiation or imposition of force, there are universal laws/principles that link consciousness, cosmic energy and free energy technology. Ancient texts have written about these principles and quantum physics is now connecting the dots for our modern-day understanding.

This is why I agree with you Kevin, that E.T.s are peaceful. Also, seeing as there is intelligent design present throughout the universe, I wouldn't be surprised to see E.T.s that look very similar if not exactly like us. With the recent discoveries of billions of Earth-like planets in our galaxy, it's naive to think that universal design started and stopped on this rock alone.

Many know that a False Flag alien invasion is the ultimate plan the cabal has up its sleeve to affect the entire world at once. Some of you may think that's insane but I bet you couldn't believe that planes would be flying into buildings either. The government has suppressed technology for over 100 years by such inventors as Tesla. He was able to send electricity wirelessly (FOR FREE) to hundreds of homes yet today we have no sign of this advancement. Not that the public knows of anyway. Imagine what "alien" technology has been developed in 100 years. Then you can see how the last few years have been planting the seeds of an "invasion" with countless alien movies that always show aliens as hostile and so on. Many men for centuries have known that FEAR is the best form of control over the public and have used it to this day in a rainbow of ways.

LOL FEAR!

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

If they wanted to take over

If they wanted to take over our planet, it would be theirs already.

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China's here helping because OUR Navy is in the Gulf?

Whatever the threat, or lack thereof, if it's true about Chinese vessels being in our waters - along with our fleet - that's a RED FLAG.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Why do ET's always, always, always trust the gov't?

I've always wondered why the ET's always, always, always trust Earth's prehistoric goobermints.

No doubt we have been visited

HOWEVER the ET visit is another staged event false flag.

Good point made by morken below. Weaponizing space would be the next step by the NWO in its desperate need to control the entire planet. What better way than aiming missiles at the entire planet from space? The ET UNFRIENDLY visit is the EXCUSE to weaponize space!

And we the tax payers will pay for all the technology needed to aim the missiles at every nation including us.

Wernher von Braun warned about this

Wernher von Braun repeatedly warned that paranoid military and intelligence people would weaponize space by artificially creating/enhancing threats. He said they would make up threats in this order:
1. USSR/communism
2. Terrorists
3. Asteroids
4. Extraterrestrials

Here is the statement of Dr. Carol Rosin who worked with him, the link starts the video at 1:07:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpHAxxRKksQ#t=1h07m30s

UFOs are real
4 Hour Witness DVD (radar operators, pilots, scientists, military)
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud49Gh9yYLs
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpHAxxRKksQ