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We are Change confronts Jack Hunter on Bilderberg & John Tate on Jesse Benton

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ya right after rand came out against iran bill as lone vote in

senate the 'wee-Ar-change' conveniently shifts their focus and now are attacking other people

hilarious

SteveMT's picture

A+ goes to the interviewer.

He made an excellent effort, but he didn't have much subject matter (some would say brain matter) on the part of the interviewees to work with. They both get an F- for arrogance and hubris. I hope for their sakes that Ron Paul doesn't see these videos.

ecorob's picture

jack hunter is a bitch...

he is a pompous ass who walks like hes got something stuck up his arse!

jack, 'ol buddy, this is a big tent and we've seen this three ring circus before...just like you!

who the hell do you pretend to be? jack, you ignorant slut...

don't talk down to us, don't act like you are somefreakingBODY

you speak for a movement, bro...start acting like it and remember who the hell put you there

Ron Paul
2012

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

I have yet to see something

I have yet to see something productive from wearechange.com they might as well be alex jones in my book. Just people trying to capitalize on the fear of others. Do I think bilderberg group is up to shenanigans of sorts, yes. Do I know what? nope. What I do know is that if we focus on the facts and things we do know like the Fed, like NDAA, the Patriot act, things like Bilderberg will dissipate.

Bilderberg = 7 stages of Economic Integration

Bilberberg's sole purpose is to achieve these 7 stages of Economic Integration -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_integration

It's a specific set of policies created by this economist-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9la_Balassa

Hayek also wrote about economic integration but it has evolved into this collectivist idea of a world political union. Economic Integration on an international scale is known as Globalization.

People often talk in abstract about globalization or the New World Order. The fact is, there's been several new world orders, one attempted by Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan. And one by House, the CFR, FDR, etc known as the "Open Conspiracy" (HG Wells). The world is not perfect, the idea of a different or new global order is not in itself bad. It is only bad when it is defined by collectivists like the CFR who promote Economic Integration.

I once asked Judge Napolitano what he thought about Economic Integration and he said he'd never heard of it. Plus he promotes "Free Trade" as well as CATO, which endorses NAFTA, GATT etc all part of the first two stages of Economic Integration. Of course, Ron Paul correctly explains it as "corporate managed free trade".

But the idea that this is unknown to Judge Napolitano, or Jack Hunter, or anyone trying to diminish the influence of Bilderberg is something the movement needs to fix.

Regardless of what we do, if these 7 stages are achieved everything will be for nothing. We will have no rights and we will have lost to some supranational utopian power that will forever ensure a movement like our's never is possible again.

ecorob's picture

then you ain't looked...

hard enough, chitownbb...

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

No...

WEAREDICKS is more like it.

There's only one reason this was done - to divide and conquer.

Question:

Question:

Was it after Peter Thiel donated all of that money that the campaign started falling apart?

Was that around the same time as the Breakfast with Bernanke?

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

Who down votes a simple

Who down votes a simple question? What's wrong with some of you people? My god...

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

The campaign never fell apart

The campaign reached plurality. At that point, with supporters crying uncle in Money bombs that were not reaching the goals, the campaign decided it was not worth spending our hard earned money on MSM that refused to tell the truth, give credit for achievement, and continued censorship. The campaign did not accept corporate donations, grassroots was tapped, they needed a reserve in case of law suits, and while people showed up to events by the thousands, unless it was free, people were not climbing on board with the campaign plan to take the GOP. Ron Paul "Rock Star" had amassed a huge fan club, but that fan club was not translating into what the campaign needed, GOP registration, committee seats and delegates. Grassroots wanted to wave signs and chalk sidewalks, not become the establishment that was needed to show up in mass and take Ron Paul over the top of the corporate machine.

I see alot of blaming the campaign by people who now say they support GJ. What is GJ's campaign doing?

No one is asking anyone to join the LP. No one is asking anyone to become delegates, or open LP committees, or build a LP to sustain past November. There are no PACs or Blogs, or campaign names, being tossed around on DP. There are no Meet-ups, no $500 dinners, no free concerts named for GJ.

What makes GJ campaign so much better than RP's? That they took RPs message and added issues that some folks didn't exactly agree with Ron Paul because they are Democratic Party issues like pro-choice?

Revisionist nonsense.

Revisionist nonsense.

The campaign had plenty of money. Doug Wead says they backed off because Romney threatened a PR bomb. Have you not watched the vids on this site in the last few weeks?

The campaign suffered a controlled demolition from within, after Breakfast at Bernanke's. After that breakfast, Ron behaved differently, and Carol Paul told a crowd at a speech that Ron was worried something bad would happen. If you can calm down and connect the dots, you might find something...

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

Are you with the campaign?

Did you become a national delegate and become a committee member and still working on a state level with the campaign?

The revisionists are those who never joined with the campaign, or left whan Ron Paul and HIS campaign didn't do things THEIR WAY, and joined the Liberty from the rEVOLution Movement.

Campaign is still alive and well in the states, but you wouldn't know that watching YouTube, you would have to be inside, with a nice seat and voting NO to unconstitutional resolutions, inniatives and platform.

Attn JACK

Are Texans supposed to overlook this kind of thing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90jfQrb4wAE

WAC interview style is aggressive, and I

can understand why some avoid them. Their last-ditch-effort attitude makes it appear that they've exhausted all other interviewing options. Perhaps they could take some notes from Jan Helfeld. Jack should have remained cool and calm, but I think that's something that needs practice. To his credit, he did answer their question, and i can understand his position. Bilderberg is not his main target, and that's ok. Welfare is not my main target, war is, and its not that I don't care about or understand the social problems welfare brings, it's just secondary to so many other issues. Sicking security on them however seems quite hypocritical of a liberty figure.

I've been on the fence about attending an upcoming YAL event in Davis, CA. Any ideas about YAL? Seems much has come into light about C4L and YAL lately.

ecorob's picture

i think jack hunter...

would go well with rand paul~!

they both sell out a little to attend the cocktail circuits and puff out their chests and say, "you got to take a little up the butt to get a little under the table"

sorry, not my brand of politics

Ron Paul
2012
The Fire Brand!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

On one hand, Jack Hunter has

On one hand, Jack Hunter has to acknowledge that the so-called conspiracy theorists have done amazing work for the campaign. They've attended rallies, sent delegates, informed people, etc.

Moreover, they KNOW this. They planned for it; a movement like Ron Paul's is going to attract conspiracy theorists. It is going to attract hippies, racists, fringe elements as well.

So I feel it is a little hypocritical to use all of those elements to help your campaign, while simultaneously wanting the benefit of not being associated with them. One or the other.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

"I have identified the number of traitors within our movement"

"Jack "SouthernAvenger" hunter is on the YAL board. Because he made an argument that Rand supporting Romney was a sensible political move, he is a traitor. Therefore YAL are a pack of traitors.

Rand Paul is supporting Romney. Traitor.

Luke Rudowski has been accused of using WeAreChange donations to pay his college tuittion.He is a traitor.This also makes WeAreChange traitors.

Alex Jones is buddies with Wester Tarpley, who has attacked Ron Paul.He is a traitor.

TMOT supports israel. Traitor.

Julie Borowski is a social conservative.Traitor.

Adam Kokesh attacked the Ron Paul Campaign. Traitor.

John Stossel hangs out with Cato, who kicked out Murray Rothbard.traitor.

Tom Woods is catholic. So he MUST be a Vatican agent.Traitor.

Israel Anderson(RonPaul Flicks) is from New Zealand. He could be MI6. Traitor.

Sheriff Mack still belives in SOME government.Traitor.

In addition to those mentioned here, there are EXACTLY 57 traitors within our movement.

At the Mises University, Tom Woods gave a speech about the "Anti-Rothbadians", but he also mentioned the problem with our movement.

That problem being that we try to shut out those who do not think exactly as we do.The "mainstream" political parties brag about diversity, but what big deal is it if they all believe in the absolute state?

If there biggest argument is whether marginal tax rates should be 36.3 or 39 percent, where is the intellectual diversity.

I love this movement because we are the ONLY political movement where we are not all intellectually alike. Imagine how boring it would be to be in a room of drones who repeated empty camapaign slogans and party talking points(those of you who have been in a room of Obama or Romney supporters know what I am talking about).

So maybe we should stop trying to excomunicate people from our movement simply because the disagree with them. while the real sabotuers laugh as we attack each other over 1 or 2 issue disputes, while they bring this country to ruin.

As the Good Doctor himself has said, "Freedom is popular and appeals to everyone".

But then again,I hear that Ron Paul is related to the traitor Rand Paul, and supported that statist Newt Gingrinch for Speaker of the House.So his words are HIGHLY suspect..."
From: http://s2.dailypaul.com/comment/2648507

John Tate says Jesse Benton wasn't fired from C4L. Traitor.

Jack Hunter believes conspiracy theories are bad for the movement. More proof of him being a traitor.

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

ecorob's picture

uuhhh...

i think you are right!

aren't you?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

You have pretty much named everyone

Except Ron Paul. Is he a traitor too?

skippy

Of course

Ron Paul won't give us our money back after a failed campaign. Traitor.

/sarcasm

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

LOL!

LOL!

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

I am with Jack Hunter 100%

He's right about the conspiracy theorists. Sure, the Bilderberg group, CFR, etc., all exist, but talking about them the way we do drives people away from the liberty movement. Especially when we were campaigning for Dr. Paul. Many would-be supporters were scared off because of it.

Also, I probably wouldn't talk to that We Are Change group either. They're very unprofessional "journalists" and often conduct themselves in a very rude manner, such as when they questioned Rand Paul. Not worth the time.

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

ecorob's picture

question?

when do you think you might address the 600 pound gorilla in the room?

you know, the one thats been kicking your ass!

because i see you over there flailing at the wind and shadows but that, my friend, ain't helpin' you none...

you're still getting that ass kicked!

see 600 pound gorilla, see well funded MACHINE, see "follow the money", see bilderberg, see cfr, see trilateral commission

see ALL EVIDENCE!

or, not!

shadow boxing fools are dead and do not even know it...the ignorant dead

that would be jack hunter if he doesn't wake up...

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

We are change has confronted Ted Turner

and Evelyn de Rothschild about important issues they have been heard espousing. Jack Hunter basically denied that the Bilderberg group had any influence. Rand endorsed Romney among other things. I am glad WAC has the resources and balls to seek these people out and question them. Who the hell else would ever do it? If would-be supporters are scared off than fine. The campaign is over. It is not about politics. It is about awakening to the NWO (sorry, not politically correct), totalitarianism (nother bad word), depopulation (oops), and poverty. The politics was a means. It is not the ends. Liberty is the ends.

ecorob's picture

we know the truth, double ducks...

thats why we're here!

proud to see you bring it up, too...

Ron Paul
2012

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

i agree with ya

The answer is more Peter Thiels and creating libertarian solutions to the issues Bilderberg and the CFR focus on. I think the CFR's policies of Economic Integration are the biggest threats to liberty long-term.

But our movement seems lost. I've asked people about Economic Integration, including Judge Napolitano, and most don't know what it is. CATO supports it though and I've seen the Judge defend "Free Trade". I suppose my frustration is no one talks about the real conspiracies in detail, it's just lost in superfluous statements.

The worst thing is talking about these groups like they are supervillians, or indicting anyone who has attended. We need to put forth libertarian solutions and participate more. Win the hearts and minds with the right philosophies etc etc.

Good Riddance

I'm glad the campaign is over.

I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it.
Voltaire

money

to me it simple,,,,they are different from us as they're earning income on the liberty movement---- so it's a job--career
the liberty movement was basically lo-paying while highly respectable,,,, but basically like an internship
everyone wants to further their career---move up the ladder in stature and salary

where's the big money,,,,, in the big tent ---the GOP

so we will all be stabbed in the back and thrown under the bus on their way to the big show,,,, with it's promises of power, money,, and celebrity-----however bogus and unfilling those promises are spiritually

tate proves it

us fringe, either he's so oblivious he doesn't know-------which vindicates us and proves how inept things were,, which i doubt

or the fringe is so stupid he c an say he doesn't know and we'll eat it up

either he knows---and won't answer,,, and just lied, glad we paid him
he doesn't ---again so glad we paid him

Never liked WAC

came on the scene way to quick...something fishy about them.

I think they are a demoralization campaign masquerading as an independent organisation, a la Alex Jones.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav