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We are Change confronts Jack Hunter on Bilderberg & John Tate on Jesse Benton



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Ron

Paul on George Bush, the CIA & Drug Dealing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8zcODi5dlw#t=150

Ron Paul talking about CIA and U.S. Government drug trafficking to fund covert operations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_iBf7sB04U

Ron Paul talks about the Bilderberg Group
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plo-1rLZ3Jo&feature=related

Ron Paul Gets Home Run on CFR-NAU Question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSXQLUIc1Ak&feature=related

Glenn Beck talks about New World Order with Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qei_BWvZeas

Ron Paul talks about the New World Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssPZAjymhw

Even Chuck Norris gets it (kinda)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kNXv3j6pT4&feature=related#t=60

Thanks for compiling this

Thanks for compiling this Jefferson. According to turd Hunter and his defenders, talk like this from Ron Paul is what destroys the movement

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Jack Hunter

(disclaimer: I haven't seen the entire Jack Hunter WAC video - YT hanging for some reason - but I did see up to the point where the interviewer was discussing how he was kicked out)

I didn't think Jack Hunter's response was bad actually. Maybe he felt that discussing some of these topics would be too "out there" for the average person whose vote Dr. Paul has a chance to win over. And maybe he felt that there were enough "meaty" issues out there (e.g. wars, the economy, money printing, civil liberties, etc) that the campaign could sway these voters with.

Kevin...

you are right. I know Jack Hunter since 2007. This is the same guy who took on the old bulls of GOP, going after talk radio pundits who were lockstep with the neoconservatives. The same guy who build a following on YouTube with message of liberty and limited government. He has every reason to dismiss the topic or WAC. All WAC is doing is running around and doing a gotcha moment for a 15 seconds of cheap thrill.

The Libertarian Party, irrelevant since 1971.

I agree with Jack.

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No more C4L

For me I have been with this org. since the begining I quit them today and I will not come back until Tate and Hunter are gone and that there is some assurance that there will be no C4L funds ever going to J Benton if these things were to come to be then I might sign back up but if not them no biggie as there is alot to get done!!

InLibertyDan
Only RP/GJ 2012

I agree with Jack Hunter

There is NOTHING that can be done about "secret" organizations, if they exist. The only thing that matters is what happens with public policy. Most people don't believe in that shit, anyway, and isn't our goal to get people to agree with our views on public policy? Who gives a fuck about who meet who. The policies and votes matter, nothing else. Let's focus on interviewing Congress why they are voting for the NDAA. Everything else is making the movement look like a bunch of crazy fucks.

Jack is right

That what happens in public is what matters. He is wrong in how he dealt with the reporters. There is nothing wrong with asking questions and having dialogue. We should be able to talk about anything to our government officials and that includes both of the Pauls.

Those are not reporters

Those are ambushers.

you mean like all us kooks

you mean like all us kooks questioning how WTC building 7 collapsed into it's own footprint from a few light fires?

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Knowledge is gained from sources.

Answers to questions is part of the knowledge gaining process.

The more I hear, read, and see, the better armed Liberty individual I am. I can discuss and debate because of information that I decipher.

Information comes from folks kicking butt working to get it.

I am doing the C4L and Ron Paul strategy of working the party. I wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for information.

The issue with what I call the "grey areas" is in how to handle the topic matter.

It's about time these bozos (Benedict/Benton, Tate, Hunter....

... and the other castrated clowns cut themselves off from the Liberty movement. They are gone. We are free. Thank God! Good riddance! We truly DO NOT NEED them!

Ron Paul 2012
The Champion of the Constitution

At the cross Jesus Christ defeated sin, death, hell, and the new world order.
C’mon boys, let’s take the plunder!

Dumb

^ you are

I propose that someone from

I propose that someone from WAC (Luke?) appear on Ben Swann's channel and discuss real issues - QE3, Iran war drums, Monsanto etc... Will make Hair Toupee Poser look like the idiot he is.

Immoral funding of Military Industrial Complex by Federal Reserve and US taxation system must stop!!!! End illegal/unconstitutional wars! Preserve US currency!
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http://twitter.com/the_chiefe71

I have seen some interviews

I have seen some interviews by we are change that were off putting. However, the gentleman in this interview conducted himself professionally, so I'm not sure why Jack through such a hissy fit. Maybe there is more context to the video that wasn't shown, or maybe Jack was just being a dick.

I've already blacklisted

I've already blacklisted Tate's email address and c4l in my email settings. Never again will I pay to help Benton earn 500K+ in a political season.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Hate to tell you the

bad news jack...no "movement" that is attempting to change the status-quo will ever go mainstream or be accepted by the majority. It is impossible and any attempt to “be liked” or have the majority finally admit one day, “yes, you were right” is your ego driving you down a path to nowhere.

To attempt to win over the majority or change the status-quo will only result in you being co-opted. It can only be about Liberty and any truth connected towards that end no matter how uncomfortable must be embraced.

This is why Ron Paul is such an amazing example of a man and individual. As a poster noted below, he refused to stop making statements on economy and peace that made him look bad, or that people called kooky. Those comments always come from the people benefiting from the status quo.

Ego will bring you down Jack. I am saddened, I used to smile as soon as I saw a new Southern Avenger vid posted on DP. I told you no saying you didn’t know Jack. I wish you the best in chipping your soul away piece by piece.

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

The fact is that

Ron Paul never bought in to most conspiracy theories people on this site and WAC champion. So Jack dismissing them is hardly something new, neither is it very different from Ron.

And I completely agree with him, why waste time trying to prove a bunch of most of the times, poorly substantiated claims, when there's factual evidence bad things happening to American people every day out in the open.

Whatever your views is on this issue it's counter productive.

Sure Bilderburg and the CFR

Sure Bilderburg and the CFR are good.... Why bring them up when we all know they are looking out for humanity. In fact if someone brings them up call security or the police on them. That is how Liberty works...

While we are at it lets start backing the military industrial complex we can gain far more mainstream support.

These guys have a very short memory... just a few months ago when they could get no press these grass root reports spread the word. Now they are to good for the grass roots because our ideas don't fall into line with the mainstream. All I can say is wow.

Are you a politician?

Or why do you exaggerate and distort the point I was making to the extreme instead of debating the factual question? At no point did I describe the bilderberg group as and CFR as "good". Although I see why you had to pretend I did in order to make your argument valid, it's dishonest of you.

Looks like the pot is calling

Looks like the pot is calling the kettle black! You missed calling security to kick them out.... When they don't like the questions they call in the thugs? Just what part of liberty does that fall under?

Private property

Any property owner has the right to kick out anybody from their property. Any individual who attends a private event can advise the host to kick out people for whatever reason he sees fit.

People on this forum have a tendency to confuse moral with law.

Personally I have no opinion on how he treated them, all I'm saying is that I agree with his sentiment. Perhaps he could have been a little more sympathetic towards them, perhaps there's history we don't know about, personally I could care less if someone is rude to reporters, ANY reporters.

If you have no problem with

If you have no problem with their behavior then fine... Continue to fund their activities... For me I have seen enough and won't give a dime towards their "private parties". As far as I am concerned they can get a real Job and stop riding the donation train to pay for these "private parties".

They helped sink

the RP campaign, their work is done. They don't have to pretend anymore.

The campaign sunk themselves

The campaign sunk themselves no help needed....

For me, it is something else.

It's about how this movement became large in 2007.
If this was the approach back in 08'- tone and message, then Ron would not have spoke at the Revolution March. And, there probably would have been no new Liberty movement.

It's about these two guys demeanor. Unless the video's don't show everything, there is a problem.

I worked the C4L and Ron Paul strategy of becoming a committeeman and working the party. I am also a musician and coordinating some pretty good events. And for free. That is grassroots kicking butt.

There is evidence of peculiar behavior with the campaign over the last months. People would like to know what happened concerning the PaulFest. Dr. Paul once said, 'young people and music.' With the comments made by Benton and Hunter, I am insulted. This has nothing to do with WAC or mainstream hype, Glen Beck, Haniity, O'Reilly, lingo such as "conspiracy theories". This has to do with grassroots that worked hard - for free.

I do not like to use labels, and sometimes backslide myself. But, my voice isn't in the limelight. I don't go around calling myself Republican or Libertarian. So the use of labels, such as Hunter and Benton is doing is destructive.

I am insulted by Mr. Hunters and Jesse Benton's comments. They are causing division in the Liberty movement.

I have other comments in this thread.

It is like we are being dumped.

As if, the getting involved in the Republican strategy has worked to the point that, more standard issues are going with the Rand crossover style, so we are not needed anymore. So let's push aside those that are not conforming. Assimilate to the new you.

Uh-oh. Sorry for thinking extremely. My fault. lol ...

I tend to think down that

I tend to think down that same line. They have what they need... a foot in the door.

Good job

No point wasting time on WAC

wow..these supposed liberty

wow..these supposed liberty lovers are dropping like flies from the true movement. I guess the GOP and TPTB and all that money are too important to them

"and the truth shall make you free"
John 8:32