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It's begun! Barrett Firearms CEO: "We will NOT sell nor service ANY of our Products" to any CA Govt Agency!

That has long been my personal contention: until American firearms manufacturers literally start to refuse sale and service to ANY govt agency that seek to limit the citizenry's unalienable right of self-defense, political whores will keep on keeping on with their rabid anti-gun agenda.

Ronnie Barrett, the CEO of the world-renowned Barrett M82/M107A1 .50BMG semi-auto sniper rifle, in an act of open protest vs. California's rabidly anti-gun legislature, has now openly refused to sell or service his .50BMG rifle to LA SWAT or ANY Californian govt agency!!!

He's now joined the ranks of true American Patriots in my book!

Now, Glock, Sig-Sauer, Colt, and Federal Ammo, high time you stopped selling and servicing your products to NYPD!

The following are the words of a true patriot; talk about bold!


An Open Letter From Ron Barrett - Barrett Firearms Manufacturing

Barrett cannot legally sell any of its products to lawbreakers. Therefore, since California's passing of AB50, the state is not in compliance with the US Constitution's 2nd and 14th Amendments, and we will not sell nor service any of our products to any government agency of the State of California.

Discussion in '2nd Amendment' started by subtitle, Yesterday at 7:30 AM.

Dear Fellow Citizens,

In the never-ending battle to destroy our constitution, more "big lie" propaganda is being dumped on our elected officials. The rhetoric given forth by the Violence Policy Center (VPC) so easily deceived the legislators of California, resulting in the banning of fifty caliber rifles because they are powerful and their bullets punch holes when they strike. Even single shot .50 cal rifles were banned. It's hard to believe we live in such a dark time that someone has actually banned a single shot rifle. But as you will see, this is the cleverest of all gun bans, and the end goal is civilian disarmament, the confiscation of your tools of liberty, your rifles.

What lies before us is the continuation of the misinformation campaign, trying to coax yet another state to infringe upon the U.S. Constitution as California did. The anti-freedom/anti-gun movement has discovered how transparent they appear when they propose sweeping gun bans and now are successful by biting off a little at a time. Ever so small, many politicians are trading off your rights without you recognizing their violations.

First we had the "Saturday Night Special" which was all affordable handguns, then "sniper rifles" which were any scoped deer rifles. Those were obvious, too big a scam to go unnoticed, but with the creation and demonization of the term "assault weapon," the Clinton's Crime bill produced a wasted 10-year setback on your freedoms and safe gun design. Now comes another scam. This time they are shocked to discover that rifles are "accurate and powerful."



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Instead of fighting over the date of this

why don't we look up some results. DID this have any affect? Was it just hot air, good marketing - whatever. Did they actually stop selling and servicing?

Bump!

This is the first time I heard of this!Thank You!

so I just found the link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1389702/posts

big whup.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Are you trying to be accurate or not?

apparently not!

I look to be judged by you, for reality verisimilitude.

Just to satisfy your headline-ego, I'll rid the "it's begun."

happy?

on second thought, nah. seeing as how Barrett's the first major firearms manufacturers to do so, why not.

lol.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I'm not judging you, I'm merely pointing out a fact

The letter is from 2005.

which I've accepted, as examplified by the different link that I

replied you with, which I looked up on my own to verify, as curiosity prompted me to, after reading an earlier reply below, before I ever saw your post.

again, big whup.

You DO know that I meant the "judging"-commentary sarcastically, right?

I don't care whether you're "judging" or not; that's irrelevant. We're stretching a pointless...er, point, here. LOL

Neither of us are gonna win a $8500-ish Barrett M107A1 for pointing out what was admittedly posted in 2005, as I clearly replied with "I just found out."

But, seeing as how you really want to be an accuracy hound, I'll bite for the last time: I've never said "it's just 'begun?'" That's solely your characterization, but it's obvious you interpreted it as such.

What I did say was "It's begun!"

"It's begun" signifies merely a commencement of something, without a specific reference to a temporal range, though it can certainly be interpreted to mean within a contemporary temporal range. Then again, how something is interpreted within someone else's mind, no one has a control over.

"It's just begun" signifies a commencement of something with implied relatively accepted timeframe, within the confines of a given discussion at hand.

Nevertheless, "just" is not bound by a specifically measurable time metric; depending on the context and the range of temporal spectrum invoked, "just" can be 5seconds ago, to 5minutes ago, to 50mins. ago, to 5 days ago, to 50yrs ago.

Is that "accurate" enough for you?

xD

I kid, 'cause I love. This will be my last reply on the matter. Thanks.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Hey

he didn't make that company the Govt did LOL

Alrighty!

As a born and raised Californian, I miss the Golden State...it's my home no matter how foolishly it's run.

But this?...This gives me hope. :D

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

Ronnie Barrett is a damn fine

Ronnie Barrett is a damn fine man and started that company with his own two hands in the town I grew up in here in TN and lived for many years. Kudos!

Barrett is a genius having started his company from scratch...

and is a true, principled Patriot.

First learned Barrett after seeing the movie "The Shooter", featuring his famous M82A1M...(with Mark Wahlberg),..nice weekend flick, btw.

that's 1 of the best 'tactical' action flicks in recent memory!

they also used a .408 Cheytac; in fact, the rifle that Marky Mark uses near the end of the film in the scene where he's in an orange jumpsuit showcasing how 'he always takes his firingpins out when he goes out on extended stays,' before the US attorney general, the rifle in that scene is this one: http://cheytac.com/images/CheyTacm200.jpg

You might dig this: The Shooter, making of/behind the scenes with weapons consultant Patrick Garrity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQXMBbW4qLs

supposedly, the .408Cheytac has better ballistics than the .50BMG (Future Weapons CheyTac M200 part1, part2) or the .416Barrett, which was specifically designed to 'go around' the Commufornia's .50BMG ban, from what I understand.

but as with these things, who knows for certain, until they've been successfully deployed in the field with a reliable track record; to my knowledge .416 nor .408 have been deployed widely, other than a few anecdotal reports of SPECOPS teams 'testing' them in AfPak.

though, I've always wondered why they couldn't simply redesign a .50BMG with better secant ogive and boat-tail geometry and/or in combination with progressive rifling to make it better, hell it's been in service for almost 100yrs! think .408 and .416 got ways to go.

I believe The Shooter was the first film that I've ever seen that depicted anyone doing a proper (relatively speaking, though perhaps a few characters in Dir. Fuquoa's other film Tears of the Sun also did it, too) AR15 mag reload on the move, while racking the T-handle (the 'E. European snipers' lodge blowout scene, where he's running through the smoke in slo-mo).

It's so tacti-nerdy, but I so wish they'd make a film with plenty of malfunction clearance and speed reloads under fire; that would make for awesome scenes! well... IMHO, anyway.

the best weapons manipulation and small team tactics captured on film, so far, at least the ones I've seen, is Cinemax's US version of Strike Back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjTHw43z5q8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lts1-w0C_RQ

Then again, this is what just your average Joe Citizen who take it upon himself to get trained, can do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O81tKkeUZg

LOL!!! only IF the NYC/LA/Chicago rabidly anti-gun liberal/RINO gungrabbers knew just how many hundreds of thousands of American citizens attend tactical schools, regularly, and are factually and numerically far more highly skilled than most cops who on the most part really only discharge their guns for their seldom periodic qualification runs, unless they have negligent discharge, or shoot themselves in the foot, while cleaning their guns or stowing them away, or worse, kill himself while cleaning his gun!

Tell you one thing, Joe Citizens who attend tactical schools are not gonna be bitching about bullsh*t NYPD-required 12lbs triggers on their duty pistols or 'unintentionally shooting' 9 innocent bystanders like the NYPD and Bloomberg apparently seem to think it's hunky dory!

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

for all my Prepper/Survivalist/Agorist/PermaCulturalist R3VOL,

have you guys checked out this channel, lately?

http://www.youtube.com/user/wranglerstar/videos

WranglerStar.com

not sure if he's a full on r3VOL, but whenever a prepper talks currency collapse and gold/silver, I always assume they're 70% R3VOL.

His name is Cody. A former Colorado wildfire firefighter/logger/Jeep Wrangler parts seller, who has now apparently relocated to Oregon or Washington, and has an extensive youtube video library of homesteading and off-the grid living projects.

THAT, beyond everything else, I'd love to see much more r3VOL participate in: permaculure/homesteading, agorist LIVING, not 'surviving' or 'prepping.'

He's so far ahead, in his journey than me... gots to get me arse back in gear! lol.

anyway, while there are plenty of prepper/survivalist/permaculture sites, check it out, at your leisure; I found it to be a particular kind of that 'special'-something.

I've always found it strange that people wouldn't simply LIVE the 'off-the-grid' living, instead of figuring out where to 'bug-out.'

I vote for bugging in, with perimeter defense, in a community of like-minded individuals. THAT, seems like a much better recipe for what I've personally coined "thrival." Why 'prepare' for a distant what-if lifestyle, when you can simply live it daily, and get used to living that way, instead of figuring out what to do only for an emergency for a temporary duration??

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

What !!

Barrett wont be selling .50BMG to an California law enforcement agencies you say!!?

Does that mean the SWAT or any other law enforcement agencies need start practicing with bows and arrows for long distance kills?!

Does it also mean that agencies will be saving taxpayer money for rifles not used all year long?

How about the fact that the agencies can easily turn to other vendors for cheaper and yet powerful rifles like a tactical 308?

Or the fact that agencies do not make a request for new sniper rifles every year making .50 BMG that much more irrelevant.

All jokes aside, while it is a good gesture, it's also a lot of hot air by the CEO. Now, if Barrett said no law enforcement agencies in the U.S. will be allowed to do business with them unless California repeal its law, now that would be awesome.

The Libertarian Party, irrelevant since 1971.

Fron page

not just here but as many placed as possible. I salute this man for standing up.

I'll buy one!

In fact, Christmas presents for everyone!

Colchester, New London County, Connecticut

Barrett is exclusively sniper and assault rifles.

And they are very high dollar. I had a roomate who was a sniper in Afghanistan and worked at Barrett as an instructor. Hed teach all the rich folks how to fire them.

yes please! um, where do I sign up?

.o)

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

This is an impressive

letter, and an impressive stand to take.

Bump.

Your not kidding.

,

God bless you Mr. Barrett.

God bless you Mr. Barrett. You can hold your head high and be proud that you are a true patriot. I would be very surprised if the other patriots in this country did not give you more than enough business to make up for the loss of CA because of the statement you have made.

hopefully other manufacturers

hopefully other manufacturers will follow barretts lead.

right on.. I have barrett

right on.. I have barrett products. My barrett 98b in .338 Lapua is shooting 1/2 MOA at 100 yards. This rifle reaches out to 2500 yards easily. Barrett is first class all the way around.

Let's all

buy only barrett products

Keepin' it real.

SCHweeeet!

did you buy the 98B before the MRAD came out??

but $5~7/rd. gulp .{

but of course, there's no substitute for a .338 LaPua magnum.

I'm assuming you handload your own??

it's weird that you can still find 'cheaper' .50BMG (well... relatively speaking at $3~6/rd), than .338LaPua.

hopefully, big game hunters will use it more too, bring the costs down, then again, once currency collapse comes and SHTF, .338 will become even more boutique and more than likely the .308 and .30-06 will be the most widely used .30cal other than the Ruskies' 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R.

been looking into Desert Tactical Arms for the LaPua, but with Ronnie's open letter, I'm seriously reconsidering and leaning toward MRAD...

still... the DTA's SRS bulpup design and multi-caliber modularity is hard to beat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYaTW--JWWk

choices... choices...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

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We need far more truly independent-minded

business people like Barrett.

They've been doing this for a

They've been doing this for a while. But, yeah, all other manufacturers should do the same.

Totally dig this

mean ol 50 cal

yup,

their new M107A1 is lighter and comes suppressor ready with a cylindrical muzzle brake, instead of their trademark trapezoidal muzzle brake on their older M82/107

http://www.barrett.net/firearms/m107a1

not to mention, Ronnie himself is one of the most well mannered every day American who happens to be a multi-millionaire CEO: he'll talk to anyone and give you the time of day:

speaking to NutNFancy at SHOT Show 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I82rCtAe0nc

National Geographic's "Snipers Inc," a profile on Barrett Firearms also features tactical guru James Yeager: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H--80kb0BWw

too cool, just like rifles he manufacturers. plus, the fact that he designed the rifle himself may have something to do with how he runs his company as well.

sucks that the Navy SEALs, whom while still use the M82/107, have opted to go with the Red Coats made Accuracy International AS50 for their semi-auto .50BMG.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul