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Anybody Here Ever Read Dicken's "A Tale of Two Cities"?

I would highly suggest everyone read/watch A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens.

Many (or most) of the American peeps appear to have refused to go the way of Jesus/Gandhi/MLK/Ron Paul so guess what that means?....

Excerpt from the beginning of A Tale of Two Cities:

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only....

Here is the Wiki of the book.

Here is the beginning of a pretty good version of the movie on Youtube:
Tale of Two Cities Part 1 of 11

Here is the book I ordered for my kids on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Tale-Cities-Dover-Thrift-Editions/dp/0...

One of my most favorite quotes ever is the very last paragraph/sentence of the book. You'll have to read it to find out what I mean.

I would never want to induce fear (the book is also a wonderful love story) but wanted to share some realism since history repeats (or rhymes),
so since the book may be an uncomfortable read, please keep these Scripture in mind - :

2 Timothy 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.


1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

My best friend since high school died suddenly last Sunday (even though she had stage 4 lung cancer and supposedly had a year, roughly, to live), she died of a lung abscess hemorrhage. At her funeral, I stayed all the way through the internment (just me and my husband - everyone else split). I watched the pulleying down of her casket to a midway point, then was allowed to place a rose on her casket, the lidding of the vault, then watched the final pulleying down of the vault, the dirt piles being added until fully packed and the sod slab added for cover and finally, the flowers laid upon her grave. I saw my best friend all the way through to the very end.

Thursday night, after Wednesday's funeral, I had a horrible dream of confusion concerning her: the funeral procession was eating at a restaurant after the funeral, where I was rummaging through boxes of old photographs of my best friend's life (even photos of she and I at around age 11, when we hadn't even met yet) and wondering why the photos were being discarded, cast away with and no one cared. Ron Paul was at the restaurant (and he cared by golly). Part of the funeral "party", the whole funeral bunch, began laughing and mocking me and RP and for some reason I began begging a french woman in the funeral party "Qu'en est-il de la liberté et l'égalité?" (like that crazy commercial where the dude says how cool it is to speak French in your dreams....ha!) AND of all things, Ron Paul then leaving the restaurant (in a way we can only imagine Ron Paul "leaving angrily"), running down the street, fast as a mad wind, with an entire slab of top sod from a grave above his head. I was running after him and he fell on the sidewalk and I noticed he then all of a sudden had a black walking cane in his hand, so how he was running and holding something ridiculously huge, long and heavy over his head made no sense...but he then began reaching up toward me to help him up with his right hand but I could not lift him from under all the weight of the grave sod that landed square on him. At that point, I woke up with a start and burst out crying, sobbing, freaking out...I could not get "my Ron Paul" out from under the grave sod before awakening.

As many of you know I've been crying since January 21 for entirely different reasons. I'm trying to really chill now since God did not give me a spirit of fear, but of peace. It is very difficult as I sway back and forth between politics and evangelism, trying to decide how to handle my future "human interactions", considering this horrid, atrocious, unforgiving world and what we've all become - and trying desperately to not drag personal fear back into the picture, as I'm also terribly realistic and foresee some not so great times ahead.

Which brings me back to my original thoughts:
I ordered that old 80's version of A Tale of Two Cities (the one I linked to on Youtube) from Amazon and my husband and I started to watch it last night. I made it about 20 minutes in before I fell out from exhaustion. I just wanted to make sure that I let all y'all, especially the young folk, know that I implore you to PLEASE read that book. I think it will mean something to you and shed light on our possible/probable futures (and how it is true: The more things change, the more they stay the same).

Also I would be remiss to not implore you to please read The Bible and make your peace with God.

But to wrap this up, just keep in your heart, those last few words from A Tale of Two Cities, it is how I will always feel about our Ron Paul R3volution.

Love y'all,

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Why did this book not make it into the Bookshelf?

Is there something special I must do to add it? Thanks.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

You can't hold onto the grave.

First thing that comes to mind, Butterfly.... Excellent dream! Ron Paul holding onto a giant slab of sod, and a walking cane - and you holding onto Ron Paul.. The death won't kill you, but the holding onto it might stop you - slow you down.

I wish I could ease your suffering! You are in deep mourning for a lot of precious people and things - it's OK - it's good to feel it in the present. At some point, "this too shall pass". You won't cry forever. :) And to quote one of our favorites: "When one door closes, another door opens."

Here's a song for you - "All Things Must Pass" - (I am so sorry for the loss of your best friend) - sending a prayer for you, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ATb5FNci8

Well you double-slayed me ;)

I miss George, he was my favorite. If you ever get a chance to watch Prince do a "face-melter" during While My Guitar Gently Weeps during the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame Tribute to George Harrison, don't miss it. It's fab. It's also incredible how much Dhani looks just like his Dad.

And I miss Bob too, his music healed me in many degrees waaay after his death. I sure cried at both videos but Coming in from the Cold was especially good right now.

Hugs, LT

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

One of my favorite movies - I

One of my favorite movies - I haven't read the whole post and thread yet, just wanted to mention the 1935 movie version as really good.


Also Charles Dickens ending to A Tale of Two Cities:


Jesus said:
"I am the resurrection, and the life:
he that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live."
~ John 11:25 ~

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

I am sorry for your profound loss

“For in grief nothing "stays put." One keeps on emerging from a phase, but it always recurs. Round and round. Everything repeats. Am I going in circles, or dare I hope I am on a spiral?

But if a spiral, am I going up or down it?

How often -- will it be for always? -- how often will the vast emptiness astonish me like a complete novelty and make me say, "I never realized my loss till this moment"? The same leg is cut off time after time.”
― C.S. Lewis, A Grief Observed

I Love These Threads

We’ve talked about the French Revolution, I recall.


The context of history is continued in the saga Tolstoy portrays with life chapters in his tale of times: ‘War and Peace’. Pages turn … we learn if we lay down all that’s achieved is our future is history.

"People are often unreasonable, illogical and self-centered; Forgive them anyway. If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives; Be kind anyway. If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies; Succeed anyway. If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you; Be honest and frank anyway. What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight; Build anyway. If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous; Be happy anyway. The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow; Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough; Give the world the best you've got anyway. You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God... It was never between you and them anyway."
- Mother Theresa

Live in War anyway … Rest in Peace. ;-)

Yes, you are right, we have been here before....

Sometimes I feel like a dog chasing her tail. "Redistribute the Pain" v "Christian Doormats".

I just am having more broken-heartedness than "normal" over the past five years (especially concerning RP). I have to keep reminding myself that we must go through the valley in order to appreciate reaching a mountaintop...

Your MT quote is beautiful and reminds me of a quote I always heard my grandmother say growing up (especially when meeting life's trials): "Well, it's me and God for it!!"

Thank you LibBerte, I cherish your replies.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Unrest and Uprising

Fah-reak me out

Well, since I've not seen a movie since "Horton Hears a Who", I have not seen the Batman movie but have read the article. I had no idea -- woo woo -- hope I'm not under some Mind Control...eeek! ;)

This article also reminded me of this Adams quote:

"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as
sacred as the law of God, and that there is not a force of law and
public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence."

coupled with Michael Jackson (yes Adams & Jackson) -

"I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
I'm Asking Him To Change
His Ways
And No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change"

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

It was the best of times, it

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Try not to cry.


That just slayed me to death ;)

but not to worry, Sting (of The Police) has slayed me three times already today. Willie Nelson, Garth Brooks, Vince Gill and Ray Boltz have taken me down several times also. I can look at a Corningware dish and bust out squalling. Everything reminds me of my friend, combined with my surety of our total loss of Liberty and our descent into the unknown.

That poor fellow in the video touched me, I understand his pain. Thanks for sharing that.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Not To Worry

Heard of a van that is loaded with weapons,
packed up and ready to go
Heard of some gravesites, out by the highway,
a place where nobody knows
The sound of gunfire, off in the distance,
I'm getting used to it now
Lived in a brownstone, lived in the ghetto,
I've lived all over this town

This ain't no party, this ain't no disco,
this ain't no fooling around
No time for dancing, or lovey dovey,
I ain't got time for that now

Transmit the message, to the receiver,
hope for an answer some day
I got three passports, a couple of visas,
don't even know my real name
High on a hillside, the trucks are loading,
everything's ready to roll
I sleep in the daytime, I work in the nightime,
I might not ever get home

This ain't no party, this ain't no disco,
this ain't no fooling around
This ain't no Mudd Club, or C. B. G. B.'s,
I ain't got time for that now
Heard about Houston? Heard about Detroit?
Heard about Pittsburgh, P. A.?
You oughta know not to stand by the window
somebody might see you up there
I got some groceries, some peanut butter,
to last a couple of days
But I ain't got no speakers, ain't got no
headphones, ain't got no records to play

Why stay in college? Why go to night school?
Gonna be different this time
Can't write a letter, can't send a postcard,
I can't write nothing at all
This ain't no party, this ain't no disco,
this ain't no fooling around
I'd like to kiss you, I'd love you hold you
I ain't got no time for that now

Trouble in transit, got through the roadblock,
we blended with the crowd
We got computer, we're tapping phone lines,
I know that ain't allowed
We dress like students, we dress like housewives,
or in a suit and a tie
I've changed my hairstyle so many times now,
I don't know what I look like!
You make me shiver, I feel so tender,
we make a pretty good team
Don't get exhausted, I'll do some driving,
you ought to get you some sleep
Get you instructions, follow directions,
then you should change your address
Maybe tomorrow, maybe the next day,
whatever you think is best
Burned all my notebooks, what good are
notebooks? They won't help me survive.
My chest is aching, burns like a furnace,
the burning keeps me alive
Try to stay healthy, physical fitness,
don't want to catch no disease
Try to be careful, don't take no chances,
you better watch what you say.

‘Life During Wartime’
 Talking Heads

Same as it ever was!!


Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Speaking of Same Ole Changes ...

... I remember when you were still a chrysalis.


Hee hee wow that's waaaay back

in the 70's when I was a record label for Blondie

The Tide is High but I'm holdin' on....

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Yes, have read much of Mr Dickens. Haven't you?

Met him once. Twas also my first date with Livy, my future wife. Went to the theatre to hear Mr Dickens read some of his writings. I did the best I could to pay attention to Mr Dickens' reading, for I admired his writings so. Seems Livy was a bit of a distraction.

Here is what another in the audience wrote up:

Twain then was thirty-two and Dickens fifty-five: and just three years from his death [Dickens. Not Twain]. Whether Twain gave Dickens’s performance his fullest attention is perhaps debatable as this was also his first ‘date’ with his future wife, Olivia (‘Livy’) Langdon. Twain was a Dickens enthusiast, and had been reading his work from the mid 1850s. And his report of the 1867 lecture for the San Francisco Alta California (5 February 1868) – despite its satirical tone – suggests his deep respect for the older man...
I wrote up some thoughts later, but this here is better.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

I don't blame you for being distracted Sam

I'm totally sure Livy was better lookin' than Dickens could ever dream of being. Hugs, SCB

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Mighty kind of you to saw so.

Thank you Miss. Here is quick biographical reference of my loving family. Pictographs of each of us. http://steamboattimes.com/mark_twain_family.html Livy's pictograph come right after my younger brother.


Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

im watching now

only because you suggest it. I never read the book or watched it, didnt know what it was about.

we will see

Get the kleenex ready

when you get to the very end, the words of Sydney Carton are what I am referring to regarding our well spent time with RP. You will surely need the kleenex because you've been right there with us all along...you will feel it too.

Be Blessed my pal.
Hugs, T

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

SCB: Here's a "Boquet" for You

"It's a far, far better thing I do than I have ever done. It's a far, far better rest I go to than I have ever known."
____Ronald Colman, as Sydney Carton
From the Movie; A Tale of Two Cities.

This version released in 1935 is, in my opinion, the definitive example of this literary giant.

If you would like a copy, email me, I'd be glad to comply, gratis.

We seem today to be at a place in time,much like the movie, where I can envision the cheers as Romney loses this election...analageous to the "guillotine scene"...The Republican Party, much like like the Aristocrats.......doomed to oblivion.

Yet I wonder, how many of us will soften our hearts and ,unlike the vengeful French peasants, try to find compromise that will eventually lead to the light....much the same as Sydney Carton...a final act of retribution and salvation.
Heaven help us...we need some compassion in this day and age.

We need to learn from Sydney's example.
God Bless!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Without Ronald Coleman, why watch A Tale of Two Cities at all?

Just read the book.

You are so right, Danton. That 1935 version was the best. Happy to find someone who appreciates the great Ronald Coleman. Loved him in Lost Horizon, too! The remake(s) of both those literary classics on film don't even come close to those originals with Coleman.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Yes Danton

Sydney Carton's last words are exactly how I feel about my time loving "Lucie Manette" (aka working for/with Ron Paul and his supporters in a peaceful revolution and awakening).

Yes, I would like the 35 version! I can't wait to see it. I will e-mail you, thank you!
Hugs, SCB

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

((((SC Butterfly))))

Your email didn't come through....try it again.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Egads Danton

At first I asked the DP mods what's the deal why my e-mails never get delivered. (I also rarely receive e-mails from the DP or users) The mod (Jon) turned me on to info that my ISP (bellsouth.net/at&t) picks and chooses what I may send out and receive.

It was then that I began to take note of how easy it is to drive a wedge in communications. The person "not being responded to" feels let down [as I experienced over and over until I figured this out - I thought for the longest time "no one loved me" ;)].

A fellow from C4L national came to my house last year (I think it was) and I tried to get him to understand even C4L stuff was being stopped from incoming. I thought perhaps C4L was big enough to ruffle AT&T's feathers on the issue.

Basically anything "liberty-minded"/Ron Paulish has been halted by bellsouth.net or one of their workers (NSA?). If items do come in, they come in under already read e-mails but with the actual time sent as if they had been there all along. It's hard to explain but Rand Paul's stuff comes in like that all the time. I think the ISP does this so one overlooks items because one's already past it when the e-mail actually lands in ones inbox. If that makes any sense.

So thanks for trying. I'll try to catch it on Youtube, I've seen that it is there. Hugs Danton. SCB

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

You Love, you hope, you feel, you cry...

You do your best and you grieve for what should be. Ron Paul is the greatest leader America has seen in 200+ years. Take heart, he's a God -send.

Bless your heart,

bless your mind and body. Bless your arms and legs to strength. Maybe understanding and peace come to you. One day will come to dry your tears.

Maybe for this time, put God first. You and husband next. The rest of the world can get along for a while.

Your friend was fortunate to have a friend like you.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

Dickens was a great author,

Dickens was a great author, no doubt brilliant beautiful stories. That being said... It was many of Dickens' books that helped spark the progressive movement and government regulation and control. Like in "A Christmas Carol"... Scrooge famously asks the starving child "Are there no workhouses? no private charities" etc... Same in Oliver Twist when he asked the fat healthy man for some more gruel and he hits him over the head with a ladle... As I said before, the stories are great, but it moved many people to lobby the government for greater amounts of welfare. It was during the industrial age. We were going through some growing pains and Dickens' books were extremely influential during his time. You can draw parallels today with say James Cameron's "Avatar" in promoting a green energy culture and a poke at American colonialism. Agree with it or not, love it or hate it, it's the message that he's sending and Dickens did the same thing, but with obviously more impact and influence than James Cameron...

Oh come on!

Dickens was in no way a propagandist. Take Oliver Twist for example. In Oliver Twist, the hero is the rich man. Oliver born poor was good but the two men of the gutter who exploited children were the villains.

I'm not going to go into great analysis of all Dickens works but you should also look at Little Dorrit.

You know, just go reread these great books and try to see that he did not paint rich as evil or poor as good or vice versa.

I didn't call him a

I didn't call him a propagandist, and I don't think I'd ever call him that... It's the way people perceived the books at the time... and obviously he wasn't the only influence. I'm not in any way angry at Dickens... There were other comments about my comment saying tat Dickens supported a free market and was an entrepreneur, which I think was true, but being "radical left wing" 200 years ago was wanting free public education for everyone.... FDR would be a considered a radical right wing conservative if he was alive today.... Obama would have been viewed as a communist... So ya, Dickens wasn't for what the government is doing NOW...