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Anybody Here Ever Read Dicken's "A Tale of Two Cities"?

I would highly suggest everyone read/watch A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens.

Many (or most) of the American peeps appear to have refused to go the way of Jesus/Gandhi/MLK/Ron Paul so guess what that means?....

Excerpt from the beginning of A Tale of Two Cities:

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only....

Here is the Wiki of the book.

Here is the beginning of a pretty good version of the movie on Youtube:
Tale of Two Cities Part 1 of 11

Here is the book I ordered for my kids on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Tale-Cities-Dover-Thrift-Editions/dp/0...

One of my most favorite quotes ever is the very last paragraph/sentence of the book. You'll have to read it to find out what I mean.

I would never want to induce fear (the book is also a wonderful love story) but wanted to share some realism since history repeats (or rhymes),
so since the book may be an uncomfortable read, please keep these Scripture in mind - :

2 Timothy 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.


1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

My best friend since high school died suddenly last Sunday (even though she had stage 4 lung cancer and supposedly had a year, roughly, to live), she died of a lung abscess hemorrhage. At her funeral, I stayed all the way through the internment (just me and my husband - everyone else split). I watched the pulleying down of her casket to a midway point, then was allowed to place a rose on her casket, the lidding of the vault, then watched the final pulleying down of the vault, the dirt piles being added until fully packed and the sod slab added for cover and finally, the flowers laid upon her grave. I saw my best friend all the way through to the very end.

Thursday night, after Wednesday's funeral, I had a horrible dream of confusion concerning her: the funeral procession was eating at a restaurant after the funeral, where I was rummaging through boxes of old photographs of my best friend's life (even photos of she and I at around age 11, when we hadn't even met yet) and wondering why the photos were being discarded, cast away with and no one cared. Ron Paul was at the restaurant (and he cared by golly). Part of the funeral "party", the whole funeral bunch, began laughing and mocking me and RP and for some reason I began begging a french woman in the funeral party "Qu'en est-il de la liberté et l'égalité?" (like that crazy commercial where the dude says how cool it is to speak French in your dreams....ha!) AND of all things, Ron Paul then leaving the restaurant (in a way we can only imagine Ron Paul "leaving angrily"), running down the street, fast as a mad wind, with an entire slab of top sod from a grave above his head. I was running after him and he fell on the sidewalk and I noticed he then all of a sudden had a black walking cane in his hand, so how he was running and holding something ridiculously huge, long and heavy over his head made no sense...but he then began reaching up toward me to help him up with his right hand but I could not lift him from under all the weight of the grave sod that landed square on him. At that point, I woke up with a start and burst out crying, sobbing, freaking out...I could not get "my Ron Paul" out from under the grave sod before awakening.

As many of you know I've been crying since January 21 for entirely different reasons. I'm trying to really chill now since God did not give me a spirit of fear, but of peace. It is very difficult as I sway back and forth between politics and evangelism, trying to decide how to handle my future "human interactions", considering this horrid, atrocious, unforgiving world and what we've all become - and trying desperately to not drag personal fear back into the picture, as I'm also terribly realistic and foresee some not so great times ahead.

Which brings me back to my original thoughts:
I ordered that old 80's version of A Tale of Two Cities (the one I linked to on Youtube) from Amazon and my husband and I started to watch it last night. I made it about 20 minutes in before I fell out from exhaustion. I just wanted to make sure that I let all y'all, especially the young folk, know that I implore you to PLEASE read that book. I think it will mean something to you and shed light on our possible/probable futures (and how it is true: The more things change, the more they stay the same).

Also I would be remiss to not implore you to please read The Bible and make your peace with God.

But to wrap this up, just keep in your heart, those last few words from A Tale of Two Cities, it is how I will always feel about our Ron Paul R3volution.

Love y'all,

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reedr3v's picture

The Progressive movement did distort

any element available to promote their ideology. But Dickens, while validly empathetic with the poor, was apparently pro commerce. Here's a passage from Cantor & Cox's Literature and the Economics of Liberty: "...under Dickens's leadership, the journal he edited, Household Words, was a staunch advocate of free trade...Dickens himself was an accomplished entrepreneur." (publisher)

Well thanks for the critique of Dickens

however I think you missed my entire point concerning the last words of Sydney Carton and how they relate to "our R3volution".

I'm guessing you also sped-read over the part about my best friend's death this very week and the frightening dream I had?

I admit my post was all quite jumbled but had little to do with Dicken's "sinister intentions". Among the study of the French Revolution, A Tale of Two Cities is also an exquisite love story. I guess all that "laying down your life for your brother" stuff is passe?

Perhaps JFK can prove the expression you missed here:
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible [which we tried and tried] make violent revolution inevitable."

In my jumbled grief, all I'm sayin' is "Fasten your seat belt". It appears there is no putting the squirt back in the grapefruit. Capiche?

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

gaylbaby's picture

This is so appropriate. I do not hear my grandchildren

mention ATOTC as required reading anymore. But Atlas Shrugged currently is. :)

Your dream got my attention. In the last week an unusual thing has occurred. Both my husband and I had very oppressive dreams(on different nights), to the point of being frightening. This is not the norm for either of us. As the Bible repeatedly tells, dreams can be significant, maybe even warnings.

But fear must be understood as less powerful than faith. So that is the path we must take, into the future. PEACE to all who are in The Way, and those who are trying to find it.

May the Peace of God

May the Peace of God which surpasses all human understanding keep our hearts and minds in the true faith until life everlasting.

South (I will nickname you Souther), you have some very heart felt posts. When you said your child called Ron Paul grandpa it reminded me of my grandpa who passed away. Why do many of your post bring me to tears? Maybe you have the ability to touch my heart even over this impersonal forum.

This post is about the same as my post that I created earlier about a personal mission I am going to pick up, peace.


God has a plan. Know this, that nothing on Earth happens without God's consent. He has a plan for you Souther. He loves you dearly. How do we know this? We look to the Cross. I love you Souther. When you have doubts, fear, and anxiety look at the Cross to see what Jesus the Christ has done for you! If God is with you, who can stand against you. With that reassurance, HOW CAN YOU BE AFRAID?! I must admit; I look at the Cross often.

But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men." Acts 5:29

We must, yes, resist at our our discression. God did not make us all freedom fighters/super warriors that many on here claim to be. I myself am a pacifist. God will protect me.

I am redoubling my efforts Souther. I will pray for you personally though addressing you to the Lord as South Carolina Butterfly is a bit funny, but I am sure Jesus has a sense of humor.

Let me also tell you a bit about Mathematics. Our temporal time here is nothing, nada, zip. Any finite amount over infinity is 0. That means no time will pass between now and you seeing your friend!!!! You will be reunited with everyone and all the Saints (believers in Christ)!!!!! At that time, we will never have to worry anymore Souther. Keep the Resurrection Hope!!!!!! Its all we have!

May the LORD bless you and keep you
May the LORD make His face shed light upon you and be gracious unto you
May the LORD lift up His face unto you and give you peace
Follow me on Twitter @ http://twitter.com/Burning_Sirius

10-4 on the Resurrection....

this has been a heavy topic here at home for around a year. Originally the Jews always believed in a resurrection, the concept of "immortality" (immaterial soul) was introduced from Greek philosophy. Before that, "dead was dead". Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

Additionally, not sure - but feel perhaps Maimonides threw a monkey wrench in the belief of a resurrection.

And you're correct about God not existing in "time" and that if I were to die this moment and I'm resurrected right beside George Washington (let's just say), we will both think we both "just had died". Paul talks over and over about death being "sleep" --
Jesus as well in John 11:11, 14-44
Mark 5:35-42

I guess some just don't really understand R.I.P. = "Rest" in Peace :)

Hugs to ya B

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

As a Lutheran

Daniel attests to the physical resurrection of the dead.

Currently, studying to be a theologian, yeah you are 100% correct. What Paul says in Corinthians is hard for Platonists to hear.

Here is a quote from the book I have read to take my NT entrance exam:

The second major topic beginning at verse 35 (of chapter 15) discusses what the resurrected body will be like. Paul distinguishes between "a natural body" and "a spiritual body" (15:44, 46). For a number of reasons, the term "spiritual" here does not imply an immaterial existence as a platonic thinker might assume.

1) Paul still describes it as a body.
2) Jesus, the last Adam, is called "a life-giving spirit" (15:45). But Jesus clearly had a physical body even after the resurrection (Luke 24:39-43)

In Genesis 1 Adam was "a living being" in the fullest, created sense (1 Corinthians 15:45). The Hebrew word nephesh, often translated "soul", refers to the whole, complete person God had made. Jesus is the antithesis of this; rather, heis a life-giver.
Earlier in chapter ten Paul spoke of the "spiritual food" and drink given to the Israelites during their wilderness wonderings (10:3-4). The manna and water were not immaterial.

On soul sleep:

When Jesus hung on the cross, one of His seven precious words was spoken right before He died: Father, into your hands I commit my spirit. Jesus body was laid into a tomb to await Easter morning, but His spirit was not in that tomb. After all, the Bibles definition of death is the separation of the body from ones soul or spirit (Eccl. 12:7; 2 Cor. 5:8; Acts 7:59). On Easter morning, Jesus showed Himself alive, proof that His soul had been re-united with His body. So, where was the soul of Jesus on the Saturday that His body was in the tomb? It was in precisely the same place that the Bible teaches all the souls of Christians are when they die: committed to the Fathers hands.

We know for certain that there is an intermediate state between the death of the Christian and the final resurrection of the dead. Some in the history of the Church have contended that the soul merely sleeps unconsciously-peaceful but unconscious until the resurrection of the body. This view is commonly called soul sleep, a view maintaining that the Christian does not enjoy a reward when he or she dies but must wait until the resurrection. This is a myth, but a myth that mistakenly borrows from biblical language. Frequently, the Bible refers to the death of Christians as sleeping (Matt. 9:24; John 11:11; Acts 7:60). This, however, is only a reference to the state of the body, not the soul. The soul is in paradise with Jesus (Luke 23:43).


May the LORD bless you and keep you
May the LORD make His face shed light upon you and be gracious unto you
May the LORD lift up His face unto you and give you peace
Follow me on Twitter @ http://twitter.com/Burning_Sirius

The key point being...

The French Revolution exploded as the result of a "minor" incident.

I also heard that King George wrote "Nothing much happened today" in his diary on July 4, 1776.

Little known fact. The title was supposed to be "A Tail of....

.......Two Kitties". But due to a typo at the printers it got published as it is now known.

( Okay, it is late and the silliness factor took over momentarily ).

It really is a classic. Have not read it in many, many years.

Good thread. Thanks for posting.


My bf was a "Cat Lady" all her life and to such extent, she collected (fallen out) cat whiskers in a jar (not like she plucked them out of their lil faces or anything) :)

So actually your comment was entirely apropos.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

You are a

wonderful soul SCB.


"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

You're not so bad yourself

ole pal. You always have something nice to say to me. Thanks.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer