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Never Buy Food Again

In the modern day, we have preservatives, pesticides, chemicals, GMOs, and a host of other things that can be done to the things you eat. They say it is for your benefit when you ask, or for the sake of efficiency, safety, etc.

But if you get your food (or water!) from any source other than your home vegetable garden, you don't know what has been done to it...at all. ANYTHING could have been put in your food that could have any effect on you, your health, your mind, or your family. You don't know about it and you never will.

Even if you don't think the government would be evil enough to poison the food supply, you still shouldn't be dependent on anyone for your food. This dependence makes your survival very unlikely.

Grow your own food, most of it or all of it.
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Linda Cross's picture

This is so sad, and makes me so mad!

I made a comment about nothing growing in my yard. I just found this article on bees, I can't recall the last time I've seen a bee....


My husband and I are going GMO free. I hope all of you will for your health. Vote yes on prop 37, if you get the chance. Oh yes, I know, labeling is non libertarian, government interference. Do you object to labeling poison with the skull and bones? If they are going to poison our food and sell us artificial, non food, poison, they need to label it as such.

If you see something, say something, the government is listening.
Silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

I don't think that it is

I don't think that it is labeling laws as such, that most are opposed to. It is making a law that is then given to the FDA (ie. Monsanto) to write regulations for the law. Nobody expects the law to look the same after the FDA gets a hold of it.

Why not first allow companies to label their products as GMO-free and then prosecute to the full extent any company that commits fraud? This would be using the federal government's powers properly.

Or at least make a concise law that dictates to the FDA how the law will be implemented in detail? . . . then vote on that. Or maybe something better would be to have the federal government declare it as a poison and then let the states implement appropriate laws the way they see fit.

Linda Cross's picture


I'm already going by the "non-GMO" labeling. The best way is to wake everyone up. If we stop buying GMO the market pressure will surely force change. It is frustrating though. The health damage that is already out there is tremendous.

If you see something, say something, the government is listening.
Silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

Civilization was in it's prime with the discovery of America

Since all the states were carved up and the land given to the government THE INDIVIDUAL'S WEALTH has been in steady (and now SHARP) decline.

The ultra-rich have more tech and palaces to hide in, but they can't hide from this decadent decline.

Their solution--genocide. Or at least sterilization.

But remember, it's not about being 'off the grid', it's about the freedom to walk on and off and do whatever you want. That's true prosperity.

Fight the Ron Paul blackout on the Daily Paul (now 'P AU L'), put his removed poster back as your avatar:

Keep In Mind

The reason for the advancement of civilization is the fact that individuals no longer need to grow their own food. There is nothing wrong with a little bit of self reliance, but it is not possible for everyone in an urban environment. Increased specialization and the distribution of labor is a hallmark of human progress. There are ways to find out where your food comes from if you are concerned about pesticides, etc... That's how organic growers and their customers find each other in the marketplace.
This is not to say that people should not have food storage at home for emergencies, but a return to total individual self-sufficiency is a good indicator of civilization in decline or ending.

Yes But the "Civilization"

pendulum has swung too far left!

There are many "Relying" on the actual producers without contributing anything.

You do not get Liberty without responsibility.

I agree with your idea of relying on each other.

I'll grow the cotton. You make the shirts.

Not Dems idea. "I'll grow the cotton" You take it form me and "Trickle down" for a vote.

Or the Republicans "I'll grow the cotton" You take it, create a conglomerate, price fix, send it to China, make a tidy profit "Trickling up" for a campaign contribution.

If the SHTF and you want to come to my farm. You better be ready to shovel some manure.

Fair Enough

When the SHTF people will be looking for "shovel ready projects". :)

In six weeks I've grown 19

In six weeks I've grown 19 tomatoes, 9 peppers, spinach, kale, cilantro, basil, and strawberries in my 2ft by 4ft self-made balcony planter combined with 2 hanging tomato plants. My obsession with growing is inching toward my obsession with Ron Paul.



I live on a 6 acre farm

Soil is bad but I built 8 garden planters and bought a few yards of manure compost/soil mix and set out to grow my own food. Bags from the department store would cost a fortune.

No weeds, few bugs easy to get to because the plants are at waist level. I designed them to look really good so my wife does not complain.

I think anyone could grow veggies this way in their backyard with little space.

I'm surprised how much food grows from just a few plants. I have more bell peppers than I'll ever use from just 2 plants.

Mine are doing good except for the keeping the deer out.

We also have a horse who produces ALOT of future compost and two goats. Chickens to follow.

We are on a good well so If I can figure out some alternative energy we will be totally self sufficient.

If it weren't for rising property taxes I could retire early.

Liberty4Me's picture

Here's something I came

Here's something I came across recently -- http://www.friendlyaquaponics.com/. This looks like a really cool idea to me and can be done in very tight space and without a ton of investment. Definitely on my to-do list.

Tie this in with a small solar power system and you'll be on your way to self-sufficient.

yup...there you go. friendly

yup...there you go. friendly is the best place to learn it from too. They are the pioneers. When you see other training resources online, they likely were trained from Friendly.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

How about certified organic

How about certified organic stuff? It's gmo, pesticide, preservative free.

"Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear." - Benjamin Franklin


do you think sets the standards for "certified organic"?


I'm in rural SoCentral CO...

And while growing conditions can be quite harsh, I'm thinking there was an issue with lack of bees. All my squash plants grew just fine & made lots of blossoms but hardly any produced actual squash. Lack of pollinators? Can you imagine if we end up having to manually pollinate our crops for them to produce?!

Bump for more information!

The comments here are frightening! Things aren't growing right in the South. Things aren't growing right in the Northeast.

Anyone else having problems getting things to grow right in their gardens?

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

It all comes down to the soil

It seems that a majority of gardeners run into trouble some time or another. The big chemical companies want us to think that it's just nature and there's nothing we can do about it. That's a lie. Carey Reams knew it all goes back to the soil. If you have fungus, it's because of a soil imbalance, if you have insects or precocious weeds, it's still probably a soil imbalance. A plant needs to right ratio of carbon, and 17 other essential nutrients + water. Instead of balancing the soil people try sprays. Composts and cover crops are the way to garden successfully. Unfortunately, Florida and the deep south have wasted soils, but with time these can be replenished. In the meantime grow things like okra,sweet potatoes, and cowpeas that will grow in poor soil, while improving it. These 3 also like hot and dry weather. If rainfall is very low than drip irrigation is probably necessary. A high carbon soil will hold many times more water than a low carbon soil, so building carbon is key. The new hybrids are bred for high chemical use, so find older varieties.



In central Florida, I have a lot of trouble with fungus killing my plants lately (last few years). I've resorted to buying liquid copper fungicide (Southern Ag), available at Home Depot or Lowes or just about any nursery. You won't need much (1/2 teaspoon in a quart of water) in a spray bottle, and spray it onto your leaves BEFORE you see any evidence of mildrew or the leaves turn brown.

I'm not sure that is your problem, but the hot, humid weather is a killer for vege gardens. I spray lightly about once every two weeks after the sun is no longer shining on the plant (if you spray in full sun you will inhibit growth).

Good luck!

Linda Cross's picture

Nothing grows anymore.

I live in NE Florida. I've always grown food in my yard, but the past few years NOTHING grows, everything dies or is very small. I just had sunflowers which should be 8 foot tall, bloom at 8 inches tall. My Zinnias are blooming at under 6 inches tall and they should be over 3 feet. The citrus all turned black and fell off the trees and all my vegetables are dead. They do a lot of spraying here...

If you see something, say something, the government is listening.
Silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

reedr3v's picture

Have you talked with local organic farmers?

I'd think they would be very aware if there is a systemic problem.

I have the same problem in SC

The last 2 years sucked to grow food.

just had this same

conversation with a friend in pa. he couldn't grow anything either.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

Linda Cross's picture

thanks for the comments!

I know it isn't me, I grew up tending an acre garden and canned enough food to make it through Missouri winters. Here in Florida I used to grow 2 crops a year in my yard, My tomatoes grew higher than my 6 foot privacy fence and we had more peppers and herbs than we could use.....now absolutely nothing edible.

If you see something, say something, the government is listening.
Silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

you're welcome

i couldn't believe what i was reading, we just had this conversation yesterday.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul