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WATCH: Gary Johnson will keep Gitmo open, says if not, we will have to do it somewhere else!(mame and torture!)

On Freedom Watch, former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson told Judge Napolitano that he would keep Guantanamo open. He says "a lot of prominent libertarians" have told him that we need to keep Guantanamo open because if we didn't, we'd have to do the same thing -- by which I guess he means torture and indefinite detention without trial -- somewhere else.
Gary listens to the "prominent" libertarians and DOES NOT EVEN consider the CONSTITUTION!

From Lew Rockwell

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/86709.html

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bump for torture?

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WRITE IN RON PAUL!

Release the Sandy Hook video.

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NSA!

Enough Said. Send a trackinhg bot and you will know!

Semper Fi my little government buddy! Lol!

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

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awww.
dont be scared of a lil truth, lil buddy!!!.
You were the one who worked for the government and collected tax payer paychecks..
How did that work out for ya?

You call me gvt when you actually WERE in the gvt!!
Typical GJ supporter!
lol

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

I Understand He May Have Changed His View But Holy Crap

What a terrible answer. There can be no "enemy combatant" without a declaration of war.

Last time I checked there was no country called "terror" for us to be at war with. Maybe when "terror" can sign a peace treaty we can have a legitimate "war on terror."

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TROLL ALERT!

Just saying.
Look at their profile. 1777free4all
This is old news, and the Johnson position has been refined...by us.

RAND PAUL or NOT AT ALL

TROLL FOR RON PAUL

I suppose I would be considered a troll to someone who does not know economics or the proper constitutional role of government.(a confused GJ libtard)

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

He already clarified this a

He already clarified this a million times...

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

I'm sure he didn't mean

I'm sure he didn't mean torture. I'm sure he meant store prisoners elsewhere. There is one thing Obama did change and that was torture policy in regards to gitmo. He may do secret renditions elsewhere, but from what I heard they did stop the torture there at least. He basically had to to get the civil rights voters.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Guessing what he means

I understood it to mean "keep enemy combatants," not "maim and torture."

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

Considering...

...that he's spoken out against torture repeatedly over the years, and has had that anti-torture message featured prominently on his campaign website, your interpretation would make sense: he's for keeping GITMO open as a prison, not in favor of torturing people there. But I guess that story doesn't play as well into the anti-Johnson narrative the OP is peddling.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

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Gitmo is unConstitutional, period.

I am not anti gary, he is wonderful, but his philosophies of government are not consistent and his views are skewed.
not to mention he will not promise to protect innocent life where ever it may be found and runs an indebted campaig

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Rand Paul 2016

Is that the view you presented in the OP?

...that gitmo is unconstitutional? Mmmm, no, you claimed that Gary supports torture. That claim is false. I expect you know it is false.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

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If gairy supports endless detention and gitmo, then he supports torture because endless detention is torture.
He likes gitmo and the tribunals.
They both work off of never ending detention.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

I have this video posted at my YouTube website. HOWEVER,

I plan to vote for Gary Johnson because a lot has changed since this "Freedom Watch" and Gary has sufficiently been "taken to the woodshed". Ron Paul knows this, which is why he spoke so favorably of Gary recently.

Gary Johnson very well COULD WIN; even if he does not, GJ could siphon enough votes to place second, ahead of Mitt Romney and this would break the two-party stranglehold on national politics.

ya i know.. somebody who's lived past 2/3 of his life span

suddenly changes his stance conveniently for a presidential election.. credibility is so on par with those worthy of the liberty movement's leadership. not even asking him to have what half of paul possesses. bar has become so low. this from the same guy that bashes rand paul.. hilarious

like i been saying.. you brain dead boomers are hopeless. joining the liberty movement was a dead cat bounce for you.

So vote for Obomney then...

So vote for Obomney then... Sigh!

Yeah I guess it makes too much sense to take any steps forward if we can't get everything we want in one felled swoop. So forget voting for Gary Johnson and ending the wars balancing the budget bringing the troops home cutting spending and breaking the two party stranglehold that would make to much sense...

Or maybe it would be better to make a meaningless protest vote that the Demopublicans could give two F's about... Yeah that's the ticket that will move liberty forward... Bigger sigh!

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Doesn't matter one iota! He

Doesn't matter one iota! He is NOT going to win, and ONLY then would it matter! The ONLY thing a vote for him MIGHT do, is expose more people to the libertarian philosophy! That's IT! IF you want more people to be exposed to the most basic tenets of Libertarianism, then vote for GJ. There's a small chance the MSM may do a blurb on Liberty on election day and that some people may hear it, and join us! That's it! That's all that can come from voting for GJ. It doesn't matter AT ALL, any of his personal fringe beliefs.

Gitmo Gary is no libertarian

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Gitmo Gary!
rofl
I want to use that!

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Someone else said that awhile back and I remarked

it sounded like a Tickle-me Elmo doll gone horribly wrong. :)

Every time I hear someone say it I can't help but laugh at the imagery.

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I thought of tickle-me elmo too!lol
tickle-me gairy!lol

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

While I don't agree with Gary's stance on this ...

issue I still believe that he has 90 percent of RP's ideals and that's good enough for me. I didn't agree with 100 percent of Dr. Paul's stances either, especially regarding 911 being blowback and not the false flag that it obviously is. RP supported going after the "terrorists" in Afghanistan even though Osama himself denied responsibility. Tons of RP supporters don't believe the governments account of 911 but still agreed with RP on enough issues to support him fully. If you don't want to vote for Johnson fine stop trying to convince those that are because it's becoming pathetic. Go vote for Goode or write in RP it's your right.

Huh?

"If you don't want to vote for Johnson fine stop trying to convince those that are because it's becoming pathetic."

It the other way round from where im sitting. Some Johnson diehards are trying to convince others that he is the best thing since sliced bread, He's not, he's not even that good of a libertarian. And they refuse to alliviate people's concerns when they ask legitimate question's.

Just to even things up ill say

If you want to vote for Johnson fine, just stop trying to convince those that dont because it's becoming pathetic.

You couldn't respond to my point...

about not agreeing with 100 percent of any candidates positions but still being able to vote for them because they match your views the closest? We get it, you are definitely not voting for GJ and you will continue to nitpick his stances the same way neocon supporters nitpicked RP for the stances of his they didn't like. We are not trying to convince you guys who obviously are not voting for Gary for whatever reason so stop getting your panties in a bunch over it. Guess what you can do? Don't read pro GJ posts! Right now GJ has a chance to keep this movement together and not split up this very important voting block like you and your nitpickers are trying to do. He also can bring in more new voters into the tent because many people just couldn't vote for a Republican even RP. To your motives I say huh.

Sheesh

settle down, I was simply evening things out.

Just one thing? nitpickers? People have some very serious and understanable concerns with Gary Johnson, all I am saying, is dont support him blindly, and dont try and force others to support him either.

DYOR

How are we "forcing" anyone?

You're not voting for GJ great dont it's your choice! You and a few others constantly post nitpicky things about Johnson that frankly don't outweigh his overwhelmingly pro-liberty positions. I'm not saying he is flawless but neither is Dr. Paul. Your serious concerns should be about keeping the liberty movement united, because united we stand and divided we fall.

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Ron Paul IS Constitutionally FLAWLESS.
GJ is NOT!

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Yeah, I know!

United around the principles of Liberty, not a candidate.

Whats with the attitude anyway? Is there something I have said that you disagree with? Im not understanding your agression?

"post nitpicky things about Johnson that frankly don't outweigh his overwhelmingly pro-liberty positions"

Thats your opinion, perhaps if you responded to the people asking the question's with actual answers, more would support GJ?

Anyway, End the Fed! For Liberty!

Also, To each their own!

What Questions?

"Thats your opinion, perhaps if you responded to the people asking the question's with actual answers, more would support GJ"

What questions? You haven't asked any. What's with your attitude? You are doing nothing but trying to break up the vote of this liberty movement by posting only the flaws of a decent liberty candidate that has ballot access all over. You offer no alternative just bitching and moaning about how much you hate GJ. So excuse me if I don't like the divide and conquer trolling you and ebrawl are doing. If GJ was so bad then why did RP say he is wonderful? You won't answer that because you can't!!! Why has the Republican party fought to keep GJ off the ballot in multiple states? You have no answers! Just more trolling in teams. Like I said, vote for who you want it's your choice, now you can respond with real answers or go away, I'm bored with your hollowness.

Logical point

He came to a reasonable conclusion after studying the issue. By the way, it came out today that a Guantanamo release was involved in the Libya terrorism attack. Our court system is a fucking government disaster. If we had a real court it might makes sense to try these religious zealots but we don't.