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Ahmadinejad Embraces Jews, Rejects Zionism

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You can't compare our leaders

You can't compare our leaders to Ahmadinejad. Seriously, the current Iranian regime makes Obamney look like Rothbard.

We should never be defending the ultra-authoritarian Iranian domestic policy - it is a combination of extreme social conservatism and socialism that goes against everything we stand for. However, we should allow Iran to do as it wishes and not constantly interfere in their business.

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compromise - educate me oh wise one . .

dont make grandious statements without facts.
You said -
ultra-authoritarian Iranian domestic policy - it is a combination of extreme social conservatism and socialism

so contrast OUR domestic policy with ahmadinejad/Iran's
oh!! ya, for the US examples, dont forget the kid who made a Ron Paul video getting questioned by the FBI, oh and yes, Brandon Raub also. then theres the double amputee who the police shot dead and the myriad other polic brutality incidents that NOOONE ever looks into or prosecutes the cops about. I could go on, but hopefully you get it.

I'll go ahead and wait here for the compare anc contrast from you cause I might have ALOT to learn . .

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

In the words of Ron Paul "Let me see if I get this right"

This is the statement you disagreed with:
"We should never be defending the ultra-authoritarian Iranian domestic policy - it is a combination of extreme social conservatism and socialism that goes against everything we stand for."

Because of US domestic policy which you are all opposed to we need to embrace a leader who is doing the exact same thing, except even worse, to his people. We need to side with the guy who stands for absolutely everything libertarianism rejects. We need to side with the guy who would shut you up if he could.

If you guys were Iranians you would be hauled away to the closest government detention center, tortured and beaten for writing on this page who was critical of government policy. Trial? what trial? "shut up, you don't get a lawyer" does that sound familiar?

But it's ok when Ahmadinnejad does it I guess. This applauding Ahmadinnejad that has been going on the last week is a disgusting display of ignorance. How someone can call themselves libertarian and then go on to defend, even embrace, Ahmadinnejad is completely beyond me.

Iran has an Islamic cleric as

Iran has an Islamic cleric as permanent supreme leader.
50% of Iran's economy is centrally planned.
The Revolutionary Guard Corps control one third of Iran's economy.
Blasphemy (saying anything or publishing anything deemed to be anti-Islamic or going against Islamic values) is punishable by lifetime imprisonment, or death.
Homosexuality/Sodomy is punishable by lifetime imprisonment, death by hanging, or 100 lashes (for minors only).
Adultery by an unmarried person or fornication is punishable by 100 lashes or imprisonment and death on the 4th offence.
Adultery by a married person is punishable by lifetime imprisonment or death by stoning.
Alcohol consumption is punishable by 80 lashes, or death on the 3rd offence.
Possession of certain amounts of illegal drugs (including cannabis) is punishable by lifetime imprisonment or death.
Possession or sale of illegal arms (anything not licensed, registered or not permissible under the strict laws) is punishable by lifetime imprisonment or death.
Apostasy is punishable by lifetime imprisonment and possibly death.

Yup, just like America, probably a lot better. At least they don't have Bilderberg, CFR and the Trilateral Commission, huh?

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you didnt finish . .

you didnt give any statistics. If WE KNOW the items you list here are facts, then how many? How many have been imprisoned or put to death for these different offenses?
How is there any humans left there?
It was illegal to discharge a firearm in Gettysburg in 1865 also along with how many other insane laws in this country.
Also, I said compare and contrast. I only saw one side.

do they haul you off to prison for 30 days for posting your opinion on Facebook?
Economy 50% centrally planned?? where? in Iran? oh yes, in the US its 70% centrally planned? You just dont know that because you watch Fox news all the time.
Does the Revolutionary Guard Corps shoot double amputees in wheelchairs when they point a writing pen at them?
The US imprisons more people than any country. How is that if what your saying is true?
And yes, we have a CFR/Bilderberg supreme ruler who executes American citizens whenever he wants. He already did two of them.
the presidents before him issued executive orders which become law instantly. sounds like a supreme ruler to me.

Dont get me wrong, I dont want to go live in Iran, and yes I understand that there are fewer freedoms there than here, but this whole propaganda campaign to create hatred for Iran needs to stop.

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

No doubt they have different

No doubt they have different religious beliefs, but we are about freedom of religion right?

There are more Synagogues in Iran then in all of Russia and roughly 10,000 jews living in Iran under the protection of the government, including having a seat in their parliament.

So the who "anti-jew" thing is fabricated, he is clearly against the zionist regime, but not a "jew hater" of any sort. Suggesting Iran would nuke Israel is completely illogical since all the palestinians would be wiped out, as well as Muslim holy land. Not to mention how far the fallout would stretch across muslim nations. They're not idiots.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

much more than just 10,000

much more than just 10,000 Jews in Iran

And they have refused to emigrate to Israel!

Wiki says between 8 and 9,

Wiki says between 8 and 9, but I can't say to know the actual numbers. I have heard about 10,000.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

25,000?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm this link from 2006 says 25,000. I had read that there were 30,000 in Tehran alone several years ago.

critical thinking

This site is full of pseudo-intellectuals. See a video, read a Wikipedia paragraph and they are an expert.

There's nothing academic or Socratic about the discussions on this forum. We just look like idiots.

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It doesn't take a genius

to figure out that you've been lied to.

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Regardless

Regarless of how bad Ahmadinejad may be, it is worth noting that Iran has never attacked any other country and that should stand for something. Compared to the U.S. I tend to respect Iran a lot more that this U.S. of A. Especially when you consider how Iran is smack in the middle of all that tension and we are way out here in our peaceful corner of the world.

It is better to look dumb and not be, than to look smart and not be.

incorrect

Iran does wage covert war against other countries. And for a few hundred years up until 1700s, Iran controlled most of Iraq, Afghanistan, parts of Turkey, Pakistan and several other countries.

This was "Greater Iran" -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greater_Iran.gif

Heck, Iran is the one who gave Iraq to the Turks and Afghanistan to the British (in the 1850s).

And obviously Iran has a rich history of empire spanning 2,500 years.

We should be EXTREMELY concerned with religious theocracies getting nuclear weapons. A 21st century Xerxes with a nuke promoting radical Islam, not a great idea.

I'm sure if they could conquer the world, they would. Why? Because of RELIGION and of course, because they did before!

Watch out for the Italians

Using your logic I guess we should be leery of those crazy Italians. Remember how much land they controlled during the Roman Empire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Roman_Empire_Trajan_117AD.png

The Italians aren't trying to

The Italians aren't trying to get a nuke, @$$hole. Wise up.

Italy's a theocracy?

And:

"In October 1856 the Iranians siezed Herat, and the British, whose policy it was to maintain the independence of this city, declared war against Iran. After three months the Iranians withdrew from Herat and committed themselves never again to interfere there or elsewhere in Afghanistan."
http://www.gl.iit.edu/govdocs/afghanistan/TheSecondAnglo-Afg...

So...

Your kidding. Right? You are SO worried about a theocratic country yet throughout history the non-theocratic countries have attempted to conquer the world. The Romans, British, Spanish, Germans have all had great empires. Did you forget during these times people died at the hands of these aggressors?

We are not defending him. We

We are not defending him. We are defending the right of a soverign nation to govern itself. We are defending the right of a country which is part of the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty to engage in peaceful nuclear research. We are standing up to an over active foreign policy, where we invade any country we don't like. We are defending the libertarian ideals in this country, not defending a politician from another country.

ironic

How about Ron Paul defending Israel's right to defend itself? Everyone agrees Iran wants a nuclear bomb, as Ron says, it's logical -- they'd get more respect.

And no one rational wants Iran to have a bomb. I don't want to support Israel's war but Israel should have the right to be a sovereign nation and defend itself.

Political action

you're at the wrong site. this isnt the 9/12 project.

I love it when I hear these Ken dolls(political action) pull the string on their backs and spout this tired statement.
"Israel should have the right to be a sovereign nation and defend itself."

So, PA - who exactly proposed that Israel shouldn't be able to defend herself? Who proposed this when and where did they propose this?

I'd really love it to see you explain this statement of propoganda please.
"Noone rational wants Iran to have a bomb"
hmmmm Im trying to remember where I heard that before. Was it dubya or cheney or hannitty or limbaugh?

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

Ironic, indeed. Agreed...

As long as YOU agree that Iran has the right to defend itself as well. It would be better if no one had a nuclear bomb. But if Israel does, and Israel does, then why shouldn't Iran? Just keep in mind who is doing the saber rattling over there.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

because Iran is a radical theocracy

and you have to pick a side. study their history. go visit Iran, then go visit Israel. go meet some Iranians and ask what they say!

the Israelis are "saber rattling" because they know or think Iran is trying to get a nuclear weapon. this idea that the threat is not real and that Israel or the CIA is the source of all terrorist attacks is not true.

Yet, Iran has had the

Yet, Iran has had the capability since the 70's and doesn't have one...so why not? They are allowed to enrich uranium up to 20% and nothing shows they are attempting to do anything more then that. So how can you say "everyone agrees" with that when clearly the intelligence community as well as the IAEA report admits they are not building one.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

they want one, didn't say they were building one

How can you say what I didn't say? I said, everyone agrees they WANT one, even Ron Paul said that! It's in their self-interest. But it doesn't mean they are building one. I want evidence they are and so far I've seen none.

But if they wanted one, they

But if they wanted one, they could have acquired one years ago. Naturally it makes sense for them to want one as defensive measure against the US, but they have the ability, but not doing it, so they don't seem that interested in getting one.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

That is surreal

Never thought I'd see Ahmadinejad hugging a Rabbi.

We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.

-C. S. Lewis

Why is that?

Look up Rabbi Dovid Weiss. A man of honor.

Ahmadinejad is not a bad person. US media's got you by the balls ! Wake up for God's sake!

We're being played BIG time.

Unfortunately the hate

Unfortunately the hate mongers in this country will never allow the American people to see this video. Zionism is the only face of the Jewish people we are allowed to see in the MSM.

You're looking at it, aren't

You're looking at it, aren't you, chump? It's not hard to find and has been around for five years. If you've only just found it now, I'd question YOUR news sources if I were you. FYI Fox news was all over this back when it happened in '07. Maybe if you'd been paying attention...where have you been getting your news? Al-jazeera? The Vanguard News Network?