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Since we have been preemptively blamed for Romney's loss, how can we benefit from it?

We all know we will be blamed if (when!) Romney loses. My first thought was 'preemptive strike now' against the very notion (this was before the recent articles). Others have suggested that to be blamed will be good for the movement. Now, I'm not sure this is inherently true - but with some strategy, we could make being blamed a good thing.

How do we turn this to our advantage?

Perhaps an open letter now laying out how we know we are being set up to be the scapegoat when Romney loses:

While the authors cannot speak for all of Ron Paul's supporters, we do speak for a large block of them. We are aware of a campaign laying the groundwork to blame supporters of Ron Paul if/when Mr. Romney loses the upcoming election.

First, we would like to remind Mr. Romney of the treatment we recently received in Tampa (here, lay out a couple of examples). Those are just a couple of examples. Though we feel the convention was the perfect time for Mr. Romney to reach out to us and make us a true part of the Big Tent, we were dreadfully wrong.

That being said, we are willing to give Mr. Romney one more chance. If he would like our support, he simply has to make the following promises: (list promises) If Mr. Romney cannot embrace these issues, the majority of us will not be voting for him come November. Many will choose to write in 'Ron Paul', many will choose to support former GOP candidate and now Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson. Please note that Mr. Johnson supports all the position we earnestly request Mr. Romney to support.

Anyway, that is just 10 minutes of writing - it is junk - but you get the idea. I don't like the concept of trying to represent the movement in such a letter - obviously many won't/wouldn't want to be a part of it... so, not sure how that could be handled.

When I suggested this in a recent thread (i.e. 'we should write an open letter') - some suggested that we need a big name to do the writing. Tom Woods was mentioned - and he is extremely competent to do the writing - but is there a bigger 'voice' that could be recruited?

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Best way to capitalize on

Best way to capitalize on this is to ignore it and openly throw our support and energy behind Gary Johnson get his name out there and get him elected!

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It's been said before, but we WANT to be blamed

Party leadership respects power, not principles.

that's what I'm thinking. Own

that's what I'm thinking. Own it. Tell the fascist GOP leadership "Yep, it's our fault Romney lost. You can't win without us. Change or die."

Didn't we have power at the convention?

We had power in the caucuses, and at the convention... I don't remember any respect - just getting screwed.

Respect has to be earned.

The way we earn it is by showing that when walked over, we walk away.

By foolishly blaming us for

By foolishly blaming us for Romney's potential loss, they'll literally acknowledge our political clout... ;)

Not if it comes down to 1-2 states and a couple %

If it is a narrow loss, we will be treated like Nader.

The bigger the margins, the bigger the clout.

I think romney will lose by

I think romney will lose by 5-10% at least.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Some good points in the comments so far...

But how do we take control of the narrative?

I contend that if we don't try to take control of the narrative now, we won't be able to later.

How will neo-con news/print/web portray us? As the people that gave the country 4 more years of Obama. It will ALL be blamed on us - all the socialistic stuff that will come about, the eventual economic crash - all of it. Won't this put the next (non-liberty) GOP candidate in a stronger position?

How will liberal press portray us? Well, they would try to use it to attack the GOP in general. They may be more sympathetic to us - but to their own ends. I can't visualize their narrative.

We have to make the narrative.

These people are so

These people are so brainwashed that, as Alan Watt said, we don't have time to waste on people that are too far gone.

Ventura 2012

Dead simple.

We gloat. We continue to point out how both sides are equally corrupt. We continue to expose Democrips and Rebloodlicans as the opposing gangs they really are. Down the road we'll be known as the generation that stopped the "lesser of two evils" train dead in its tracks.

They suffer from a logical disconnect.

For a very long time and up to the nomination, Paul supporters have been described as a small part of the party, not anything that should be taken seriously. Heck, one of the major complaints about the state party takeovers was how we were getting a disproportionate amount of representation relative to how "small" our numbers were.

-Suddenly, they critically need us to win?

I am sorry, but this is a logical disconnect. How in the world can something described as a "fringe" element of the party, suddenly be large enough to matter in a general election? This is impossible. Either we had the numbers to win and "somehow" that didnt happen, or we never had the numbers and our votes arnt significant enough to change the outcome of this election.(obviously, we are stronger than they wish)

They can not say we caused Romney to lose without admitting they ignored a very large portion of their base or being shown they did.

Eitherway, the larger the gap between Rmoney and Obama, the more rediculous all this becomes.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Heads should roll

The president of the RNC, Reince Priebus should be fired for picking Romney before the primary was over. The primaries are a vetting process, and Romney was not vetted! once the election is over we should demand the Chairman resign!

I doubt Romney can steal this election with George Soros counting the vote in Spain.

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Take criticism along that line as a badge of

honor and proof of our power and principled determination. Yes, we will damage you if you cheat the people and lie and advocate war and tyranny.

Well said. I used to

Well said. I used to apologize for being a spoiler now I revel in it because it shows our power.

Tell the GOP Romney lost and we are the reason why.

Tell the RNC that if it ever wants to win it will have to deal with us.
Before the Civil War, the abolitionist vote was 10%. That was enough to have the parties courting it. Learn from history. 10% is huge when the lock-step party vote is close. The choice is obvious; Remain Neocon and lose, or reform; Work with us. How is it the economy is in the toilet and default is looming, yet the Kenyan is leading? Not being Obama is not enough. If the GOP ever wants the White House again, it will be the liberty movement that gives it to them.
Don't take the blame. Take the credit. We have the power to make them lose. It is not a scarlet letter; It is a badge of honor.

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well spoken

well spoken

We should have a good 2-3

We should have a good 2-3 hour free documentary on youtube ready to go viral after the election. It should document all the shenanigans that took place from 2007-2012.

Only the acceptance of the truth can defeat systemic evil.

The RNC is responsible for this whole shenanigan.

We all know that, but I'm not sure how we can use that to our advantage yet.


"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

OK more seriously...

it's been a joking day. That article about The Stench this morning I've been useless.

What we gain for free is we're automatically an electoral force, no longer discountable. That's the one part I can't figure out: they gotta be able to see this coming, this is working to our advantage and THEY NEVER DO ANYTHING THAT PLAYS TO OUR ADVANTAGE. Only explanation I have is we know Romney was selected to lose to Obama and they are taking him down HARD.

Next, we pick up cred and notoriety with the center and left. We're the guys that brought you 4 more years of "change you can believe in". Yes we can! Yes we can! And yes we did, courtesy of your radical conservative fellow inmates.

And by the way, that will sort of be our coronation, libertarianism is totally out of the closet and in your face as a permanent factor, we're not the fringe, we're not a fad, we're here, bring beer, get used to it.

How do we turn this to our advantage? How do we not?

Most of those who think so actually don't and most of those who think sew actually rip.

Exactly Smudge..

How do we not benefit!!!!

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I was trying along those lines

when I wrote this:

But yeah, it's time to get ahead of the herd. Perhaps something like;

Dear GOP,

It is with great joy and honour that we accept your blame for this unfortunate electoral outcome. And we'd like to say we hate to say we told you so but we told you so and you hated us for it every step of the way.

By the way, how's the whole hate thing going for you today? Did you wake up and have a nice big bowl of Haties? Well keep wolfing them down you glutinous hate bag. Your gonna wanna stay plenty obese in coming times. It will help cushion the impact.

Well, gotta go, see you in 2015 Mr. Haty McFartbags!

What do you think? I bit too much too soon?

Most of those who think so actually don't and most of those who think sew actually rip.

Geez... I forgot about what Ryan said

Hahah.... yes... a bit too much!

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Haty McFartbags!


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Ron Paul

Supporters voted FOR the Constitution, and therefore could not vote for Romney nor Obama.

Both of them support the Un-Constitutional and Un-American NDAA law, which allows for the US Govt. to Detain Indefinitely, American Citizens with NO rights (no trial, no charges, no lawyer, no justice... just prison - indefinitely.)

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