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Groups Demand To See Secret Presidential Debate Contract

Huffington Post: Eighteen good-governance and media watchdog groups demanded on Thursday to see the lengthy, and secret, contract governing the upcoming presidential debates.

Led by Open Debates, a leading critic of the process, the groups, which include Public Citizen, Common Cause and Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, criticized the Commission on Presidential Debates, which hosts the forums, and called on them to release the contract.

Every four years, the two major campaigns work out an elaborate contract governing everything from whether pens and pencils can be used to what kind of questions the candidates may ask each other. So far, Open Debates has been able to get its hands on the 1998 and 2004 agreements. All the other agreements have been kept secret.

The 2004 agreement, for instance, featured the following language about the debate moderators: "If any proposed moderator fails to execute a copy of this agreement at least seven (7) days prior to the proposed date of the debate he or she is to moderate, the two campaigns will agree upon and select a different individual to moderate that
debate."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/27/presidential-debate...

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Ain't going by pro wrestling rules. They are fake.

Fake Rules, Real Fiction: Professional Wrestling... & [presidential debates.]
IT-University of Copenhagen
University of Copenhagen

ABSTRACT: Emerging from a legitimate contest regulated by a set of rules, professional wrestling is today a fictional product. No actual competition takes place.

Professional wrestling is a cultural product of great
complexity. During its long history, it has evolved from a
form of legitimate contest or sport, to a fictional product.
This product is now being called sport entertainment.
Building on top of the current literature about professional
wrestling, [let us] analyze the narrative element of
wrestling utilizing the theoretical frameworks developed
for understanding [presidential debates.]

For further study: Presidential Debate: The Rules, 2004

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Secret debate rules? There's rules? I don't see any rules.

If an honest, open debate fails, go to Boxing Rules. Well established. Ain't secret. Time tested.

The rules of boxing are set before the fight begins. There is a referee. A violation of the following rules is considered a foul, and can result in a point deduction or disqualification:

  • You cannot hit below the belt, hold, trip, kick, headbutt, wrestle, bite, spit on, or push your opponent.
  • ...
  • If you score a knockdown of your opponent, you must go to the farthest neutral corner while the referee makes the count.
  • ...
  • A boxer who is hit with an accidental low blow has up to five minutes to recover. If s/he cannot continue after five minutes, s/he is considered knocked out.
  • ....

For a complete list go to: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Rules_of_Boxing

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

GOOD LUCK, with

getting liars, theives, and worse to confess to their immorality and repent. It has not been often that this has been acomplished in humanity.

Enlightened disengagement is the weapon of choice in this a leaderless non violent revolt.

Its like watching those riots in spain where a few suited up men in black waving sticks and throwing canisters of tear gass and smoke had thousands of protesters cowed while they brutalized them.

Best to not be in the heard of sheep at slaughter time. Hence the Enlightened part of the disengagement.

Good Luck all

God be with you

1 free person...

sovereign

Free Indeed

3 John 2 right back at you, Sovereign...you are not a number..."you're a free man (woman)"...whatever you are, you're free - and you speak like a true patriot, not one of those phony ones made in Mexico or China.

Be seeing you.

Thank you for that bible verse

John 3:2

2 He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.”

sovereign

You Missed It, Sovereign

John's 3rd Epistle, not the Gospel of John:

"Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth".

It was and still is a blessing for you, the free.

Be seeing you.

We are having success

One corporation already cancelled its sponsorship of the debates! -- now we are after another one:
http://www.dailypaul.com/256687/tell-the-ibwa-to-stop-sponso...

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
http://www.dailypaul.com/203008/south-carolina-battle-of-cow...
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Perhaps one of the boxing federations could take over.

If an honest, open debate fails, go to Boxing Rules.

  • You cannot hit below the belt, hold, trip, kick, headbutt, wrestle, bite, spit on, or push your opponent.
  • A boxer who is hit with an accidental low blow has up to five minutes to recover. If s/he cannot continue after five minutes, s/he is considered knocked out.
  • Three strikes & you're out!

For a complete list go to: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Rules_of_Boxing

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Hey, we could enlist the

Hey, we could enlist the services of Don King!

That

would be a sight to behold.

well you kind of have to

Need to see what the propaganda looks like.

America has been stolen from the people for quite sometime.

I mean is anyone really surprised that the only one telling the truth that could win against Obama.. is sidelined.

Even his kid.. buys into it.

Now there is one reason to buy into.. it.
It pays well look who he aligned with.
Sure isn't his dad.

Just want what seems to be missing, Truth and Justice for ALL
What is fraud except creating “value” from nothing and passing it off as something?

what we need to do.

No swinging doors..

A congress that passes laws that are tougher for them than the people they are supposed to protect.

Same for the police if you get a job that's hard to fire you from you should go to the higher level.
Instead of leaches we may get some real hero's.

Truth in advertizing real fines and penalty's for lying.

OV

Just want what seems to be missing, Truth and Justice for ALL
What is fraud except creating “value” from nothing and passing it off as something?

bump

Thanks for posting.

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
http://www.dailypaul.com/203008/south-carolina-battle-of-cow...
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

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The League of Women Voters ran nonpartisan debates.

That all changed in 1988. The parties wrestled these debates away from the LWV. The rest is a history of sham debates.
http://www.wisebread.com/why-league-of-women-voters-calls-pr...
Why League of Women Voters calls presidential debates "frauds"
by Will Chen on 28 November 2007
(bold is my emphasis)
I'm listening to the CNN-Youtube GOP debate right now and I'm pretty disgusted. This is not a debate, this is a media sham. How did we get here, I wondered. What happened to the tough debates hosted by the League of Women Voters?

Apparently, LWV saw this coming a mile away. Check out their press release from 1988 explaining why they bowed out of the process:

October 3, 1988

LEAGUE REFUSES TO "HELP PERPETRATE A FRAUD"

WITHDRAWS SUPPORT FROM FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE

WASHINGTON, DC —"The League of Women Voters is withdrawing its sponsorship of the presidential debate scheduled for mid-October because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter," League President Nancy M. Neuman said today.

"It has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and honest answers to tough questions," Neuman said. "The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public."
More at:
http://www.wisebread.com/why-league-of-women-voters-calls-pr...

it says:

let's make a fake secret contract to distract people from important things. this ought to keep the ron paul folks occupied long enough to elect one of us without too much commotion. I think they are finished fighting election fraud within the republican party, warning people of the pending doom of insignificant amounts of fluoride in the water supply (often lower than the natural water supply) surely doesn't keep them busy enough, most of them have have already learned that homeopathy is just water, and 9/11 has bored them as they tire of wondering which federal agents were willing to kill themselves to complete an inside job. then we can keep dong the magic that we do to keep this nation humming along.

Question?

Who is honestly going to watch these farces?

Far be it from me

to have ever done such a thing in all my born days.

i will dvr family guy before

i will dvr family guy before i watch obamney(romney/obama debate on how they agree on everything.

Ron Paul 2016

Questions not to be asked of the Presidential nominees:

Would you kill a 16-year-old boy with a drone strike if the CIA considered him a potential threat and possible future terrorist due to his familial relations?

What classifies an American citizen as a terrorist?

You have received numerous donations from various international banking and investment companies. Do they have more influence on your decision making than the average American citizen?

Should Kim Dotcom be allowed to set up a new Megaupload website?

Recently, French scientists discovered that GMO corn causes cancer in rats. Should further studies be conducted and should the Monsanto Corporation be investigated?

Al-Qaeda has been shown to be behind the rebellion in the various Northern African and Middle Eastern countries. Should the rebels continue to be supported?

The United States’ national debt is now around 16 trillion. Do you have a plan to pay this off along with serious mathematical models to back up your claims?

Recently, the Bilderberg group met in Chantilly, Virginia. What was your role in attending or sending one of your officials to attend? What did you all agree on at that meeting?

If Israel were to attack Turkey, a NATO ally, would the United States remain neutral or come to the aid of its longtime ally Turkey?

Do you agree with Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke’s decision to proceed with indefinite quantitative easing?

In August of 2012, Brandon Raub was committed to a mental institution for posting inflammatory comments on his private Facebook page. Were the Federal, State, and Local police force correct to do this?

Do you support the Department of Homeland Security providing grants to local towns in order to purchase law-enforcement tanks and other assorted armored vehicles?

Do you support the continued use of the Transportation Security Agency to perform pat downs?

Given that the full body scanning machines has been shown to cause cancer in people, do you support their continued usage?

Given that the full body scanning machines have been show to not keep people from getting metallic objects and bombs on airplanes, do you support their continued usage?

Should the United States continue with all of its foreign aid programs?

Should the FBI and various other Federal law enforcement agencies be allowed to continue its policies of entrapment in order to ensnare potential criminals?

Should the House of Representatives be increased to its Constitutional size of 1 House member per 30,000 people?

Is the Federal Reserve a private organization or a public organization? If it is public, should they then be audited? If it is private, should they be shut down as only Congress can print and coin money under the Constitution?

Can you explain how the Gross Domestic Product is calculated?

Can you explain how the Consumer Price Index is calculated?

Can you explain how the unemployment rate is calculated?

Given that Federal defense spending, national debt interest, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security all constitute over two-thirds of the budgetary needs, which of these would you cut in order to reach a balanced budget?

What is the President’s role in resolving the abortion debate?

What is your stance on State Nullification?

If your wife asks you if she is getting fat, what is your response?

Sorry, but you should avoid

Sorry, but you should avoid asking questions in a form that can be answered "yes" or "no". A good question would demand a complete, drawn out answer.

Good comment 213

Ron Paul could and would answer each and every one of those questions with real answers and real solutions!

Very pathetic what we now have! Pathetic!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

I have to vote your comment as one of the best

If those question were in the debate, I would buy tickets to it!

Word up.

Bumpus B. Bumpenstein
#1 Bump St. Apt. B
Bumpville, USA

What would the Founders do?

You Go, 213!!!

Bump this post SKY-HIGH!!!

Be seeing you.

Uh, oh.

The scam is up. Can't fool all of the people, all of the time.