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Gary Johnson Sues FEC for $750k

Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson's campaign has filed a federal lawsuit against the Federal Elections Commission, claiming the agency is unlawfully holding back public funds.

The FEC wouldn't comment, citing the suit that was filed Monday in a federal court in California.

Johnson claims that, as a minor-party candidate, he's entitled to a set amount of funds that are supposed to be distributed by the commission. The amount is set forth in a complicated federal formula that awards public funds to parties based on their candidates' prior performances in other elections.

The federal law suggests in one place that a candidate such as Johnson "is eligible to receive pre-election payments" only if his party "received at least 5% but less than 25% of the total popular vote" in the prior election. But Johnson's attorney, Paul Rolf Jensen said that 5 percent threshold doesn't apply.

Total owed: $747,115.34, Johnson's suit says.

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Tom Woods has a great strategy for Gary:

http://www.dailypaul.com/256580/video-tom-woods-speaks-with-...

He speaks of Gary toward the end of this video.

Maybe Dr. Paul would have gotten further

Maybe Dr. Paul would have gotten further if he wasn't so complacent to the shenanigans of the duopoly. Personally I'm glad to see GJ fighting the establishment BS.

"When the boot of government is on your neck, it doesn't matter if it's left, or right." -anonymous

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Lawsuits are a waste of time and money and do nothing but make attys and judges rich.
Paul will not get involved with our corrupt judicial system and is smart to always keep his hands clean.

This was Gairys way of dropping out with this lawsuit.
Thats what this lawsuit says to his followers, if it wasnt a signal to ending his campaign, he would have waited until after the election to sue the People.

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1) He's not suing "the

1) He's not suing "the people", stop pretending to be stupid. The lawsuit has a net zero affect on us.

2) If those funds aren't allocated to GJ, like they SHOULD be anyways, they will go to Mitt Romney and Barack Obama

3) Why do you constantly twist anything GJ-related to make it sound negative? Why do you hate him? You act like he came to your house and kicked your puppy or something

Agreed 100%

Why no lawsuits from Ron Paul's official campaign?
Just calls for unity -- makes me sick.

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Trust me.
It is YOU who makes Ron Paul sick.

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Romney sends you Thank you notes for this work or what?

You are the # 1 RR campaign troll here -- shame on you!

Attacks on a man who carries Ron Paul's Liberty message benefit only Romney crooks.

#RomneyFail

P.S. yours & others attacks only make me work even harder.

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Good.
Youll need to work and work hard too.
I hope you send all your money to GJ!lol

for real!!! I dont want Gairy to leave the stage owing any American money they lent or credit they gave- so i hope all the tards who follow Gary send him every dime theyve got! Really I do.

and btw,
GJ already lost when he announced his lawsuit.
That was his way of letting other tards know hes thrown in the towel.
He will use the FEC "withholding" as an excuse to all lil' johnsons.

GJ dropped out today with his lawsuit filing.
face the facts, but thank you for all you did!!!lol

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LOL

Judge Gray was chosen as VP because he is GOOD in these matters.
Just watch.

Gray was Supreme Court Judge in CA and... the lawsuits are launched in CA.

WINNING!

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This was a signal GJ is

This was a signal GJ is ending his campaign. GJ knows RP is safely out of the way now.

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What I would like to see is a

What I would like to see is a prosecutor going after political parties and media for racketeering. Not likely as most prosecutors are Democrat or Republican. I expect the publicity would at least push media towards telecasting debates where all legitimate candidates are presented.

"Candidate Welfare" is what we call "Clean Elections" in Arizona

Libertarian Party is a FAILED liberty advancing STRATEGY.

Give it up, go inside the 2-Party Duopoly and make the change happen.

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Nope, never. It's called

Nope, never. It's called conviction. Not taking anything away from you of course.

right on

and youre right

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GJ sues taxpayers for withholding tax payer money!lol
Ron Paul would never sue the Tax Payers!!

Ron would never accept our money in the first place, and even if he did ~ he would never SUE us!!

GJ is a FARCE!

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Although the money is

Although the money is obtained from taxpayers through force, I don't have a big problem with a consistent libertarian going after some of the money. It's either that, or more money goes to the oppressive Ds and Rs.

GJ would use the money to advocate for less government, less spending and lower taxes. I don't mind my $3 being used for that purpose.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

no

the fec money comes from voluntary donations, not force.

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GJ is suing the tax payers
Its not only that he wants tax payers money for his failing campaign which he runs in debt, but now he is suing inside the corrupt system and hes suing the tax payers.

Ron Paul knows the legal system is corrupted and knows it is only judges and lawyers who win lawsuits..
GJ is too stupid to realize that or part of the corrupt wheel.
which do you think it is??

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Thank you

Thank you for the two informative comments you posted here.

"GJ would use the money to advocate for less government, less spending and lower taxes. I don't mind my $3 being used for that purpose."

-- Thank you for saying that.
Enjoy your day!

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The FEC doesn't pay taxes

kthxbye

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The FEC is supposed to BE the tax payer.

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I remember when the

I remember when the Libertarian Party as the party of principle refused to accept government money. When did that change?

ron paul refuses to accept

ron paul refuses to accept the notion of federal funds, but because that money is going to be spent regardless, he gets his district the most money because it's best that the people get it back instead of crooked govt officials (the Rs and Ds in this case).

It Hasn't Changed

Some in the party don't like taking the money, and some do. Each candidate's campaign decides for itself. The Party has nothing to do with it.

The money is taken from your tax payment on a check-box basis, so presumably, anyone who checked the box would rather risk it going to a candidate than to, say, the war(s).

But the main point we learn should be that if you let the government dish it out, expect it to be done "politicially." If he can afford to sue, that's probably not a bad use of funds.

Judge Gray, the VP candidate, is planning to argue the other suit to get into the debates, himself. I imagine he's pretty effective (he used to be with JAG). Maybe he will, this one, too. I imagine they have legal connections to do this at low cost.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

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And I love the fact that both lawsuits are launched in California where Judge Gray was a Supreme Court Judge and I think has lots of friends.

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If the public funding is completely voluntary then I don't think it falls under a tax or entitlement. In that case government is not redistributing property, it is distributing from a willingly-donated fund. You can certainly argue that is not government's role, but I'm tired of this idea that because libertarians want small and principled government, we have to step onto your field and play your rigged game with both arms tied behind our backs.

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The funding isn't voluntary

The funding isn't voluntary at all. Taxpayers only have the choice of checking the box to have $3 given to the Ds and Rs, or not checking the box and having the $3 instead going to some other government function.

Taxpayers don't have the choice of keeping the $3. When they provide THAT option, the contribution will be voluntary.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

"Taxpayers don't have the

"Taxpayers don't have the choice of keeping the $3."

What do you mean? You either check the box or you don't. Where does it say that if you don't check the box that the 3 dollars is allocated elswhere?

Thank You!

Thank You for your very informed comment Freedom's Remnant!

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If True

If true, the campaign is not in debt. They have accounts receivable.

Some bureaucrat probably thinks it's a waste of money to inform voters.

This is the way it will be if we ever adopt public funding for campaigns and prohibit donation by individuals or groups.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/