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Video: Romney Surrogate Rand Paul Talks Swing States on CNBC

I've been predicting all along that I think the election is over and Romney's won. - Rand Paul (4:12)

http://youtu.be/sJbIG7cyKJs



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We truly are lucky to have

We truly are lucky to have such a skilled politician in our ranks. He can stump for romney all day long. It only helps us. romney's still a loser.

*snort*

Genuineness helps you in elections.

I know who he was thinking about.

What a subtle diss.

I doubt anyone caught that.

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Why is he shilling for

Why is he shilling for Romney? Lost major brownie points... boooo

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

The party has him whipped

He promised he would support the GOP nominee in order not to have his seat contested by the GOP. Essentially, he is a whipped Senator. I.E. He is not going to be like Ron Paul. He is going to do what the party asks him. He owes them favors and they will owe him favors. Its a dirty business. He is the definition of a "Fortunate Son". (See: Creedance Clearwater Revival)

because thats how he gets to

because thats how he gets to be president. my neocon faux teaparty uncle see's rand as 'next in line' and see's ron as crazy.

He's Discouraging Donations and Volunteering

You never want your supporters to think that the election is in the bag. Take the Virginia primary where Ron Paul did even better than he otherwise would because Romney supports didn't show up in full force to vote.By Rand Paul saying that Romney's already won the election, he's actually hurting Romney.

Rand Paul never makes a vote

Rand Paul never makes a vote not authorized by the US Constitution. Show me where it says in the Constitution that Rand cannot endorse Romney.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

Actually, according to Rand's

Actually, according to Rand's political views, where in the Constitution does it say that Rand CAN endorse Romney?

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the first amendment.

the first amendment.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

Rand is Ron Paul's son, not Ron Paul's clone

Unlike most posters here, I believe Rand is posturing to become the next Republican senate leader. I don't think he has made any indication he plans to run in 2016, it's just idle speculation.
What Rand is doing might be contained in the quote below;

"What is at a peak is certain to fall. One who shows his hand will surely be defeated. He who can prevail in conflict by taking advantage of his enemy's doubts is invincible. "
- Cao Cao

I don't think it damages the Libertarian movement to have someone sympathetic to the cause in such a position.

Psst, Hey Rand

Rand, you should stop wasting your time campaigning for the Romulan, and doing interviews for him. You ought to be spending quality time with the family. Romney will be the BIGGEST LOSER this November.
How do I know? Because the majority of the Liberty minded individuals were attracted to you father (Dr. Paul) because he stood and had principles for many decades. This means, those that supported your father will either not vote, vote for GJ, Write in Ron Paul, or look at another candidate.
Liberty minded individuals are extremely "anti establishment" which is the opposite side of the fence you are on now.
The GOP/RNC really need those weird, pro constitutional, pro 2nd amendment, and did I say "pot smokers" now. Well, that's what we've all been labeled.
Rand, it is black out revenge time for us, and we're not forgetting.
I will enjoy watching Romney "stumble" as he debates Barry. I will enjoy watching Romney say the stupidest things and then have to "rephrase/explain" his positions. It will be fun to watch, Barry and the Democrats will milk the 47% comment Romney made like MSM milked Dr. Paul's 20 year old newsletters. I am not an Obama supporter, and I will never vote for that criminal Romney. Rand, please go home and enjoy the time with your family and stop dreaming of a Romulan victory. OK.

Once again....

It seems like people are upset that Rand isn't taking the opportunity to trash Romney.

He does a good job here. He plugs himself as libertarian. He talks about coming out of Afghanistan.

Him saying "Romney's already won" is brilliant. It fires up the OBAMA base to come vote for Obama AGAINST Romney.

Do you guys have any idea of the target audience of these broadcasts? It's *EXACTLY* the kind of people Ron could never reach. MSNBCNNFOX zombies.

WE will all vote in 2016 (or whenever) based on voting record and actions. So far Rand has done well there. The Republican base, on the other hand, eats out of the mass media's hand, and Hannity et al have spent the past few years talking UP Rand just so they can dismiss Ron. "Ron Paul's kooky, but I LOVE his son." Just like "I love Ron Paul, except on foreign policy."

But now it's biting the media in the butt. I know MANY in the Republican base who REALLY like Rand, and if/when the media starts to play him up as somebody they no longer like, it will be VERY hard to change the public opinion.

He's constantly pushing for clearing up NDAA, filibustering foreign aid, blocking SOPA/PIPA, and pushing for fiscal responsibility.

He just voted ALL BY HIMSELF against the entire Senate last week. He's carrying on Ron's message each and every day.

Edit: Holy crap, and now he's helping Kentucky revive it's hemp industry?

http://www.dailypaul.com/250512/kentucky-industrial-hemp-com...

I'm ending this now.

Why did Ron Paul become so popular? Because he never compromised and he stood for everything the establishment hated.

I don't care if Rand is a traitor or an infiltrator. The fact that he can't stand on principles by supporting a liberal neo-con like Romney (is that an oxymoron? Idk!) is a clear move to me.

We can't win by "infiltrating" the GOP. Ron Paul came into the GOP doing exactly as he'd done in his 30+ years in politics. We don't need to infiltrate them...we need to openly change them. And having Rand compromise his principles by "merging" with the GOP is NOT helping.

We need more liberty candidates to come to the GOP, but not morph into one of them. Compromising is exactly what the GOP wants. They want us to change into one of them.

I don't understand why people insist on having a new strategy with Rand that Ron never needed. Dr. Paul was a HUGE success. Why should we ever need to veer from that? Ron Paul is the example that all liberty-loving politicians and Americans should follow. People were listening. If Rand would do exactly like Ron, he would have much more support and I promise things would be much more different.

Please, Rand, take the hint. We loved your father. We only like you. Follow in your father's footsteps before it's too late. I beg of you.

We don't want someone who will stand with Romney. We want someone who will stand with us. The libertarians are a growing movement. We will follow you if you will lead. I repeat, I am begging please for the love of God turn from the path you have started on...come back to us. I'm crying as I write this message. I'm so emotional that we don't have another Ron Paul. Please come back to us, Rand.

you're ending what now?

feel free to give YOUR opinion but don't act like you speak for all of us. if you think it's so easy to get to the top by speaking the truth and intelligently defending the constitution, then prove it by listing the individuals that have succeeded in doing just that.

i personally can't think of a single senator that i prefer to Rand, and next year i don't know if there will be anyone in the house that i put even close to him...

i don't get why people are bashing Rand when we could be bashing some house senate members that are seeking re-election this fall instead.

Who said

I was speaking for all of us? You're right, I do have a right to speak to speak my opinion and that's exactly what I'm doing. What right do you have to have act like I'm speaking for the entire Ron Paul base?

if you think it's so easy to get to the top by speaking the truth and intelligently defending the constitution, then prove it by listing the individuals that have succeeded in doing just that.

If I can speak in text with high enough volume, that person is Ron Paul.

Some will vote for Romney, that's fine, that's their right.
Some will vote for Obama, that's fine, that's their right.
Some will vote for Johnson, that's fine, that's their right.
Some will abstain from voting, that's fine, that's their right.
Some will find an alternative to these options, that's fine, that's their right.

What I have a problem with is people acting like Rand is some Heavinly-like prophecy, sent from God himself. I think many who support Rand are blinded by their own bias because Rand is Ron's son. That is what I have a problem with. If Rand proves himself to be 100% different from the neo-cons then I will withdraw any criticisms I had of him. But from what I've seen, he has not done that.

you said "i'm ending this now"

to me that came across as you saying you had the final word on this matter, and everyone here should listen to your final word and stop discussing this further... otherwise what did you mean by that?

What I meant is that

I would like to end this pro-Rand/anti-Rand argument. Can we all just agree that Rand is better than most politicians in the senate, but that he is not Ron Paul?

The fighting within our own movement is a bomb, waiting to self-destruct.

Not that I really disagree

But we dont know exactly what has been used to get Rand into this position, and it may be something we cant imagine. For all we know imminent and credible threat of death to someone close to him might be involved. But he is going to play the straight and loyal party man this year, once a course like that is chosen the only thing that would make it even worse would be for him to flip-flop.

Not gonna pretend I like what he is doing but there's no point to focus on it. If Rand has something to say about foreign policy I still want to hear it. If he's going to talk about how we should vote for Romney because Obama is horrible (as if Romney's positions are any better) then I dont even care to hear about it. I am already mad about the time I wasted watching this. What a waste.

Anyone recall Frank Luntz?

Sen. Rand reminds me of "F—k you Frank!"

I'm not going to make excuses

I'm not going to make excuses for Rand... How can Rand support someone that doesn't represent his view points. If Rand is pro liberty, he's being counter productive with this false representation.

Im all in with Rand

More charismatic than Ron, opposes big government and his favorite book is The Brothers Karamazov.

That's next on my reading

That's next on my reading list after ron paul's collection of foreign policy speeches (A Foreign Policy of Freedom)

"You must be frank with the world; frankness is the child of honesty and courage...Never do anything wrong to make a friend or keep one...Above all do not appear to others what you are not" - Robert E. Lee, CSA

I don't think he understood

I don't think he understood the book.

I can't believe what I'm

I can't believe what I'm reading. Rand Paul is playing politics. He's a peace candidate and opponent of the FED. Under all this argument remember that.

Ron Paul tried to win his way. Three times. And now it might be impossible with the new rules the RNC to try it again.

It's also a lot harder for the media to pin him as "unelectable" or "kooky".

We must realize this.

Ron Paul was only reported as

Ron Paul was only reported as "kooky" when he was running for president.

If Rand Paul runs in 2016 the media will paint him as "kooky" or something worse if he stands for only half of what Ron Paul stood for.

Rand Paul will win nothing because of the way he plays politics, but only because of what his father grew for him over the many years.

Let's just hope that Rand doesn't become what he is pretending to be right now. Like Carol Paul said . . . it hasn't worked before, but that doesn't mean that someone can't play the game and come out unspoiled.

I couldn't agree more.

Took me about 20 mins to remember my password but I felt the need to weigh in and say that I think you hit the nail on the head.

@Permaculture. The media is certainly not an outlet for "speaking up".

yeah but where is his attention coming from?

from people who don't pay attention. at the end of the day those people are told who to vote for... what we need is someone like his father who will speak his mind about everything while the networks are still an outlet for speaking up.

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

Rand

phoning it in.

He should pretend he's got the flu for the next month or so or something.

What a Disgrace.

Rand Paul can't even protect his own free speech how is he going to protect anyone elses?

Such a sell out, complete opposite of his father.

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You got it right

Well its a was a free county so he is entitled to his ideas.

But riding his dad coat tails..and the more he talks the less likely to get the same people voting for him next time.

OV

Just want what seems to be missing, Truth and Justice for ALL
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