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Man Dies in Police Raid on Wrong House

Man Dies in Police Raid on Wrong House

By Vicki Brown
L E B A N O N, Tenn.

A 61-year-old man was shot to death by
police while his wife was handcuffed in another room during a drug
raid on the wrong house.

Police admitted their mistake, saying faulty information from a drug informant contributed to the death of John Adams Wednesday night. They intended to raid the home next door.

The two officers, 25-year-old Kyle Shedran and 24-year-old Greg Day, were placed on administrative leave with pay.

“They need to get rid of those men, boys with toys,” said Adams’ 70-year-old widow, Loraine.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475&page=1#.UGdlvduF-cj



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PUBLIC EXECUTIONS

I sincerely believe that the time has come for grand juries to indict cops like this for murder, and if at all possible to publicly execute them.

If this were a "cop killer" what do you think the reaction would be? I guess being a "citizen killer" is just an excuse for paid time off. Why are these jack booted murdering thugs not held accountable to the same standards that you and I are?

A much better solution would be to disband ALL police departments we did without them for the first 300 years we were on this continent and we can do without them for the next 300.

“ANARCHY is the radical notion that other people are not your property.” ~Lysander Spooner

Let's Not Forget The Profound Patriotism Of Dennis Kucinich

Like Ron Paul, unafraid to stand up to his own party:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6PB2s5eXwA&feature=related

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

We'll see more of this

"A command officer must now review all search warrants."

So, before this were they just handed out as party favors?

Way to not only kill some random person, but also alert the suspect of a crime to the fact the law's onto him. I bet he disappeared pretty quick.

The way I figure it, he had every right to fire at the home invaders. The shame is that they wear armor and he used a shotgun.

Cyril's picture

That's the problem with any police state

That's the problem with any police state.

The many more cops get hired, the dumber they get :

because it is no more law enforcement, it becomes official mobs working for the federal state mafia.

Think TSA, too, as typical example of new IQ standard lows.

Also, this is sad to be witnessed by the shrinking minority of (older) cops who do care about protecting the public and not abusing it.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Anyone keeping count?

How many wrongful-house raids has this been in 2012? At least 20, and I wonder how many were shot or killed. But I have this suspicious feeling if anyone kept count, the numbers are much higher. Yes, even though this particular story might be 12 years old.

No.7's picture

Lebanon Police Department

Also killed my high school quarterback Greg Thompson last year. Long story short, Greg ran from cops and wrecked, two cops approached the car, one cop slips and fires hit gun into the ground, other cop freaks out and shoots 15 bullet at he car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XnoxQX6weo Heres the news report.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Fellow Wilson Countian here

Is it just me or is Lebanon one especially screwed up town? When house hunting last year, that whole area gave me not exactly the creeps, but you felt that something wasn't right. For instance:

What's up with the popped trunks everyone drives around with? Am I just getting old and uncool?

What's up with everyone following South American traffic laws over there? If it weren't for Demos, we'd never go to Lebanon.

I've heard that Nashville "outsourced" some if its projects to Lebanon, changing the dynamics of the area.

Once, when we were kids, my brother and I went antiquing on the square with mama (you know the square you can't ever drive out of its seems?) and this guy on the sidewalk stops and just blows a huge booger out of his nose right onto the pavement! Little stuff like that leaves an imprint on you for life - further confirmed by the barbarous behavior of the "authorities".

No.7's picture

Hello!

I live way out in the sticks of Norene(if you know where that is). I can only assume by your impression of Lebanon that you are from Mt. Juliet. Seems to me all of Mount Juliet looks down their noses at Lebanon, while Lebanon does the same to Watertown. I work at an eBay store in Lebanon (http://taddwholesalesupply.com/ebay_auctions), check it out! Aside from police murder every once in a while it's really a nice town. I visit the square often to by silver dollars from Ed, of Ed's coin shop.

I've learned to always trust county cops over city cops because county sherrifs are elected whereas police chiefs are appointed. I honestly try to stay way out here in Norene and avoid all the city folks as much as possible.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Ha, you've got me pegged!

I'm orignially from Portland, and then moved to the east side of Knox County for several years before coming back. This is my first time living on the ritzy side of any county.

Norene has the coolest looking post office and I did some tooling around there looking for a house.
I actually like the shops on the square in Lebanon and the poetry on the Confederate statue in the middle. Can't remember exacty but something about whether you're hung from the gallows high or triumphant, a true patriot is courageous (of course it rhymed and sounded really cool).

City cops are definitely hooked into the political machine, whereas county cops have their own machine. In Knox County, these two forces competed vociferously. I picked up a quote in my research where a minister called a political machine "organized iniquity" - how adept.

This story is 12 years old

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/239/tennesseetown.shtml

The town paid the widow $200,000 plus around $1600 for the rest of her life. They paid the medical and funeral expenses. The head of the narcotics unit was indicted for criminal responsiblity for reckless homicide, tampering with evidence and purjery, but was of course aquitted.

Yeah, this should not be in current events

It's a good history lesson though.

http://www.salon.com/2000/10/19/shooting_3/

In 1796, 61yo John Adams was Vice President. In 2012, he's shot.

How our country has fallen.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

egapele's picture

I've heard where they've done something like this

and then coincidentally "find" drugs in the house after the killing. Not quite a believable scenario in this case because they were elderly.

This is horrible.

One Lesson to Learn: Shotguns worthless against armored thugs

Get a big rifle and ammo that can punch through their armor. Take good cover. When they go down, shoot them in the face.

They're going to use pyrotechnics, so be prepared, and blast them with some in return. Any large legal fireworks and smoke will be good enough to shock and disorient them.

My ar15 is not powerful enought then, huhj?

It was a kit. So what are you recommended that is affordable? I used to know this three years ago. lol

US Military rounds .308, .30-06, 7mm, .300, .338, .50 BMG

In order of power. Whichever one you feel most proficient with. Semi-auto military rifles preferred. Armor piercing is available in these calibers. You can get a decent bolt action for well under $1000, and an M1A or HK91 clone for not much more.

Those are all going to do some serious damage, even to thugs with armor and shields.

.308 is way too expensive.

For most of us, anyway. Honestly, a 5.56mm should be fine, as would an AK in either 7.62X39mm or 5.45mm. Any of them will go through IIIA Kevlar. The 7.62X25mm Tokarev pistol (Russian magic!) will also penetrate. With .308, overpenetration is a huge concern - any round will overpenetrate, but a round that big is nigh unstoppable.

Don't be cheap with your life

Compared to a .22, .223 is "way too expensive," when you're just shooting. When it's defense of your life and property, don't be cheap with the tools you buy.

In any situation where criminals expect armed resistance the type of armor and shields they're going to be using will typically be capable of stopping .308 and .30-06 armor piercing too. So, if anything, those are the absolute minimum suggestions.

Also.

62 grain steel core 5.56 is readily available - I've intentionally not bought any due to overpenetration concerns (I live in a neighborhood, so I stick with 55 grain).

What matters is how effectively you can operate your weapon; that's one reason I never say that one weapon is outright superior to another.

If an armored gang breaks into your home, you will be ran over

They're prepared and equipped for your 5.56 and, in fact, expect it. Your little rounds will be bouncing off with little effect, as they storm in and get you.

In most other situations, your 5.56 is a great choice though.

Suppose I kept...

...some .300 AAC Blackout on hand? I can't afford yet another gun right now, but I could probably get away with having another barrel for the .300.

I sort of agree...

But the thing is, bigger does not necessarily equal better. What good is it if you can't afford to practice with it? The 5.56mm is designed with body armor in mind - sure, it won't penetrate rifle plates, but neither will, as you noted, ARMOR-PIERCING .30-06. Then the question becomes, can you get another accurate shot off? You can definitely pull it off with an intermediate cartridge, and you can actually afford to practice with it as well.

Don't get me wrong - if I had the cash, I'd be rocking an FAL or a SCAR (hey, I can dream) instead of an M&P 15; as things stand, I can barely afford 5.56 (Thank goodness for steel-cased ammo!), but I can operate it effeciently.

Also, are you suggesting something like a .50 BMG for protection against this? You might get ONE shot off.

When you're talking about armor, bigger is better.

A larger more powerful round is going to have a greater chance at causing shock and damage, even if it does not fully penetrate.

Besides, it's not that much more expensive, especially if you reload and buy surplus for training. And, sure, you can get off multiple shots even with a bolt action. You just need practice.

As for a .50, one close range shot from a .50 is going to mess up an entire gang, even if none of them are hit with it. But let's hope you've been training to get on target - if so a single shot is going to take out several at once. Even with a .50, and practice, there's no reason you should not get off multiple rounds within seconds.

The officers involved will

The officers involved will keep their job and remain free. If a free-man were to do this, he'd be killed or imprisoned for life and Fox and MSNBC would call him a monster.

Southern Agrarian

A wrong house raid almost happened to me, but I stood my ground

SWAT Team Surrounds My Home
http://www.dailypaul.com/121528/swat-team-surrounds-my-home-...

I demanded a search warrant and cited our Constitution to a negotiator on the phone.

They must have known I was well armed, through looking up the illegal arms records they keep on my purchases, and as a result hesitated before busting down the wrong door.

I would certainly have tried to kill as many of them as I could in self defense if they broke in. In my estimation they would be the enemies of our Constitution, which I am sworn to defend, and I would kill them without hesitation.

If you hesitate, they'll kill you first (Jose Guerena):
http://youtu.be/XP0f00_JMak

Man "Dies?"

Or was he really murdered?

Wasn't he unlawfully killed? That's murder!

Is "information from a drug informant" all it takes?

The story said the police did surveillance. Just what kind of surveillance did they do that they somehow manage to attack the wrong house?

What about the judge

What about the judge who presumably signed the search warrant. Any actions to be taken against the judge?

Good question.

What was described begs the question just what did it take for the judge to sign off on a warrant for this.