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Chuck Baldwin-This Is Insanity!

This Is Insanity!

I believe Albert Einstein is credited with saying, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Using that definition, it would appear that many of our so-called “conservative” friends are insane. Every four years, they accept a phony conservative Presidential candidate and expect somehow that they are going to achieve a different result. They never do. Either the phony conservative loses because he is virtually indistinguishable from his Democrat opponent (i.e., John McCain), or after being elected while campaigning as a true conservative, he governs as a big-government neocon, and the course of the country changes not one iota (i.e., George W. Bush). This election year is no exception.

The GOP has nominated a man who has governed as a big-government liberal in one of the most liberal (if not the most liberal) states in the union: Governor Mitt Romney of Massachusetts. Furthermore, on virtually every issue one can think of, Governor Romney has flip-flopped more often than a fish that just landed in the bottom of a boat.


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Ya... Dems and repubs are

Ya... Dems and repubs are insane, but maybe third parties are "insane" as well. every four years some third party tries to get on the ballots and get into the debates... It never works (only Ross Perot with billions of dollars). Every four years the libertarian party runs and loses. Isn't that repeating the same thing every four years expecting a different result?

Great Article!

I wish Baldwin was running again this year. Then it would be a very easy decision on who to vote for!

I voted for Baldwin the last

I voted for Baldwin the last time around. I told my family (who said that any vote other McCain was a wasted vote) that I never felt better as I walked out of that voting booth that day.

Agreed! Another man of integrity and conviction.

AND he speaks the truth.

Write-in Ron Paul 2012!!

Anyone watch the Alan Keynes

Anyone watch the Alan Keynes video linked from Chuck's article? I forgot about ol Alan. Good stuff. Check it out. He has a brand new youtube channel with two great videos.

I don't think it means what you think it means.

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

Hello, Albert Einstein was a known prankster, this quote is a physics joke. In quantum physics you can get different results when doing the same thing over and over again. Also, it's not possible to keep all variables the same to be able to repeat anything over and over again. No matter how many times someone does something the same on the surface(newtonian physics). It's still at a different time, position in the universe, radiation, magnetism, electric charge, gravity ect... ect..(Quantum Physics).

People please stop misusing this statement as some grand philosophical colloquialism to encourage change. Besides, no matter how much things change they will just stay the same. We will always have to continue to fight for our liberties because evil always tries to take them away.

Try using this "version" if the quote must be used. It makes more sense philosophically this way.
"Insanity is doing "SIMILAR THINGS" over and over again, expecting a different result."

Now, "Same sh*t, differnent person(s)" or "Same sh*t, different day", is what I prefer to use.

Although for the federal reserve this seems appropriate. "Same money, same policy, same banks, same Bernanke, different president, same results."

Joke or not(maybe he was

Joke or not(maybe he was referring to the craziness of quantum physics). Regardless of who said it and why...its the patent truth. Crazy people tend to do the same things over and over again...even mild forms of insanity involve obsessive compulsive behavior. Serial killers do the same thing over and over again(as much as they can). No one is claiming he meant it strictly literally speaking, but regardless of your pet peeve with the saying it does not detract from its basic truth.

Facebook users worship Einstein as a god

Every time I glance at Facebook, someone's posted a spurious quotation from Einstein on just about everything from bee keeping to child rearing to piano tuning.

Turns out, he wasn't a physicist at all. No, according to Facebook users, Einstein must be an all-knowing GOD!!

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

Baldwin on the "lesser evil" meme

(...) How can a person who has succumbed to evil have the discernment to say which evil is greater? When people consciously surrender the spirit of virtue and integrity by deliberately supporting a candidate they know has a track record that is antithetical to the principles of liberty, how are they qualified to judge what is good and what is evil?

Simply splendid!

He who sins...

...is a slave to sin.

Charles Jackson
http://MathIsChristian.wordpress.com Also, read Ron Paul's original staff economist Gary North at http://teapartyeconomist.com/


Perhaps, but the point here is a finer one, a new spin on the simple rebuke that the lesser evil is still an evil. Namely, that he who chooses the lesser evil, by choosing evil, abdicates the moral authority to proclaim what is a lesser evil. For one clearly has to refer to a (at least relative) good to be able to tell which of two evils is comparatively lesser.

Nothing earth-shattering, but a fine addition to one's the rhetorical arsenal. Guaranteed to break the i^H^H^H shut the yapper up at parties.

For those concerned with voting for Goode

Don't be concerned. He isn't going to win as we all know. It is a protest vote. The point is we need to show 3rd party support. The libertarian party showed its colors as establishment control opposition when they nominated Bob Barr. So they obviously take their orders from the same people has Dem/Rep.

another form of insanity is repeating that "insanity" quote

Sorry for this unrelated "bitch break", but is there some law stating that EVERYONE and their brother must use that tired/overused quote *EVERY* *FN* DAY ??? :-( It's gone SO far beyond ridiculous.

Wish Chuck would have run

Wish Chuck would have run again. Didn't RP endorse him in 2008? It would make voting this year alot easier. Oh well, I also which Chuck would vet the 3rd party candidates while bemoaning the Dem & Repub presidential candidates. We all know there is a problem with those 2.

So do I

i just will not vote in the presidential elections.

That's what my conscience says.

I do not consent to the modern Presidency.

Free includes debt-free!

I'm voting conscience this

I'm voting conscience this year for Virgil Goode since he is same party as Chuck Baldwin was. I want to cast a dissenting vote that will be counted. Constitution Party is on the MO ballot is with Ron Paul on life issue:

RP says "Unless we understand…we must protect life, we cannot protect liberty."

I'd rather be voting for Ron Paul though.

Virgil Goode warning

Please look deeply into Virgil Goode's voting record -and- his policy positions. He's not that great.

Also remember, the Constitution Party's platform has become a mess, so picking someone due to party loyalty may not be a good idea in this case.

Michael Nystrom's fists can punch through FUD.

Thank you for your reply

Yes, supposedly he has woken up...like the rest of the candidates seem to do during election year. I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place. If Gary Johnson would support life, I would probably vote for him.

RP says "Unless we understand…we must protect life, we cannot protect liberty."

That to me is the first step to Liberty for All.

Life vs Humility

I agree with Ron Paul's statement, but I also think that the most important characteristic of a statesman is humility. Gary's running "because he's the one fortunate enough to hold the liberty banner", not because he thinks himself so great.

That said, he also acknowledges that abortion is a difficult issue and is outside of the federal jurisdiction, so while he has a different opinion on abortion, he has the exact same position as Ron Paul.

Virgil Goode is coming around, but to me he feels like another Bob Barr.

And by the way, thank you for your reply as well. I appreciate the open and honest debate.

Michael Nystrom's fists can punch through FUD.

Protection of Life and Humility

Thank you for your reply as well. I enjoy open and honest discussion. I did appreciate Gary Johnson’s candidness in his Q&A session for the Ron Paul folks:


In question 37 GJ states that he believes it is the fundamental right of the woman to choose and agrees with the law of the land which is choice up until viability. Dr. Paul activly introduced sanctity of life amendments while in the House.

Dr. Paul also says that the people should keep the fruits of their labor. Gary Johnson supports the Fair Tax. I am sick of the Federal Government taking taxes directly from the people. The states should be taxed and then the states can tax the people accordingly if the states agree with the federal tax. Right now the Federal government collects the taxes and then dictates to the states what they have to do to get the tax money back for their own use. The states should dictate to the Federal Government what it has to do to get taxes from the states.

It also concerns me that I have seen some reports here on the DP saying that GJ was a RP spoiler. I do not know the truth of that matter or why it has been said. I wasn’t around Friends of Liberty to understand the Bob Barr movement. I was still stuck in GOP land. The only thing I saw was the 2008 3rd party forum that Dr. Paul brought together were Bob Barr did not show. It was a post on the DP this weekend. It also concerns me that perhaps the Libertarian Party may have been co-opted as I have understood there was a significant split earlier on.

I do appreciate GJ’s willingness to take questions so openly and answer them honestly. He did sound humble; not pompous at all. I do like humility in a leader. Since VG is a strong life advocate I will most likely cast a vote his direction. Perhaps with my dissenting vote, humility will lead GJ to protect the most innocent among us.


Yes Ron Paul did endorse him

Yes Ron Paul did endorse him and if would have run again I would have voted for him again. My top 3 picks are Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and Judge Napolitano.

That being said, I think I am

That being said, I think I am going to have to vote Virgil Goode this year since RP says "Unless we understand…we must protect life, we cannot protect liberty."


It concerns me that Gary Johnson does not understand that premise of liberty. Once someone in society is dispensable we all become despicable.

Bear I have gone back and

Bear I have gone back and forth on voting for Goode or Johnson. The problem I have with Goode is his support for stricter drug laws and harsher sentences. I am anti abortion. I agree with Johnson on 94% of his issues. I do not agree with "gay" marriage or abortion. BUT Johson also says it is a states rights issue. As long as he would not use the office of the presidency to further those issues I don't care. People in the individual states should decide those issues and States should enforce the poeoples will. Its tough. I went back and forth and finally decided on Johnson. But as long as people vote for either I'm happy. I just don't want people to sit at home and not vote. that is the worst.

Yes, I agree. Thank you for

Yes, I agree. Thank you for sharing with me the mental battle you have had. I have as well and am going to side with life since it is the premise of liberty...however, I understand the significance of the drug law issues as well. I am not so sure I agree with the Fair Tax either.

I'm with you. screw the

I'm with you. screw the "fair" tax, it isn't lol. but yea its tough.. I agree with your life stance.

I'd like to live in Maine

I'd like to live in Maine about now...for a few months.


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Fair Tax, isn't

I used to be a supported of the FairTax, a decade and a half ago when I first heard of it. Only recently (after having discovered this site and awakened in the past 9 months) have I come to realize that no tax is a fair tax.

Both the Federal Reserve and the IRS need to be abolished. Not tweaked.

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the only fair tax I see curently...

is the gas tax as that does go for road improvments. Any other needed taxes should be local consumption taxes, if you don't like them or what they were funding you could move or buy your stuff somewhere else