"I run into this claim quite a lot. A lot of the people advancing it are fans of G. Edward Griffin, and this is why I find it so odd that this theory has gained so much traction. Griffin discounts the theory in his excellent book The Creature from Jekyll Island. More on that in a minute.
There seems to be a desire among some end-the-Fed people to believe that we’ve had a few good presidents who have tried to stand up for the people but were tragically stopped by the bankers. Thus we hear this fake quotation, attributed to Woodrow Wilson, quite a bit: “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
The first two sentences of this quotation are entirely fabricated. The rest come from..."
Wow, I thought I'd studied this subject pretty well. Didn't know about McCloy being on the Warren Commission. Wow! That speak volumes!
Here's the Synopsis from the Alex Jones Show:
Alex talks with Robert J. Groden, author, photographer, and JFK assassination expert. Groden's books include JFK: The Case for Conspiracy, The Killing of a President: The Complete Photographic Record of the JFK Assassination, and The Search for Lee Harvey Oswald: A Comprehensive Photographic Record.
This is a spectacular interview.
I agree. I am 100% convinced Kennedy was shot twice from the front...watched the video a million times. I think the banksters killed Lincoln as well. Belzer is a serious cat and he is not helping his career!
this for awhile. In fact, I have one of these Silver Certificates on my wall. Truth.
"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa
LET THEM SEE, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE!
Remember Mrs K saying that!On the Plane, At the time i thought she meant the KKK. Now we know different.
I have been following and researching the Kennedy assassination for over 40 years. Was privy to seeing the full Zapruder film prior to it finally being released.
This is rather interesting as I had not known of it in specific detail. Definitely was one more reason why "they" had to take JFK out.
Kennedy was going to take this country "back", the shadow government, CIA, Bankers, CFR, Military Industrial Complex, etc. were going to be thrown out the window by Kennedy. He was a marked man on account of that, sad he didn't take the threat to his personal well being to a heightened level. Prior to going to Dallas, he was to go to Chicago, but the Secret Service caught wind of an assassination attempt there, actually had 2 people associated with the planned hit under observation and then lost them. The trip to Chicago was cancelled with the announcement JFK was ill. Some say these same 2 people then moved on to Dallas for the next attempt. This was no amateur deal, they had mutiple contingencies set up.
"They" hated the Kennedys, and made sure that none of them after JFK could even get close to the Presidency, RFK, JFK.Jr (his plane did not go down by accident, a few weeks prior to the crash, it got leaked out that JFK.JR was planning to run for President and if he won would reopen the JFK assassination)
Anway, it is all out there, the truth that is. Piece it all together, books, researchers, etc., and it is clear what happened. If the truth ever became viral, it would set this country free I believe. But, it will be 50yrs. this November, and so many new generations don't even know about Kennedy. This was their plan, over time those who know will die off, and the "new" generation won't even know about it.
will be in November 2013
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
was in the audience for the Jesse Ventura interview on Peirs Morgan. I couldn't think of his name at the time.
"The War Prayer - Mark Twain"
Yep, I saw that too.
and they said it in London, head & model of modern banking.
Church of England: Bankers Should Repent -
also has a painting, re'newing "Righteous Indignation", or
is it depicting the 2nd coming?
Ticks, Trick$ & Traps - http://www.usDebtClock.org/
Hitmen Confess - https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dn7Fzm1hEiDQ
Misinformed finds - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpROEzHEtOI
Try doing some homework:
All this guy does in this video is parrot something he found on the internet.
Try reading the EO, try reading the EO it amends.
Try reading the Act it is issued under the authority of.
Try looking into the history of the Kennedy's and who they were funded by and who their buddies were.
You'll forget this myth entirely after you do that.
I think you are mistaken, my friend.
Write in Ron Paul
its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
While a myth is often equated to a untruth in common usage (and even in dictionaries), a more accurate definition is that it is an allegory or a fable, that is a metaphorical story, often with a moral. I would therefore prefer samadamscw not use the term in this context.
There is lore built up around the false story.
There is a moral, but it isn't based on any historical events.
So I guess you could say it is a "false mythology."
And hidden in that fact, is yet another moral - don't believe everything you read online.
As already stated, a myth is a metaphorical story. I think what is being discussed here qualifies as neither. It is not a story, but rather a report of events, which you happen to want to challenge the accuracy, or at least the implications of. A report of events is something that is to be interpreted literally, therefore the metaphorical quality that would qualify it as myth is missing.
metaphors. To be sure, it is not yet ENTIRELY metaphor, but it is well on its way.
What is the metaphor?
I remember those "dollars" ..... They had a red seal on them. And Kennedy was using Treasury notes .......at no interest to the American People. He put 4 billion into circulation and that was a lot of money in 1963.
It was one of the reasons he was killed.
Here are the other three.
2) He was reigning in the CIA
3) He was not going to allow Israel to have nuclear weapons
4) He was not going to war in Viet Nam.
So he pissed off the Big Boys.........Banksters, CIA, Zionism, and the Military Industrial Complex (Pentagon).........and they killed him.
And they also killed RFK and JFK jr. so that neither of them could become president and open up the files. Which was exactly what they had planned to do.
Wake up and stop buying their crap. Anyone with a IQ higher than room temperature can see through this.
Once a president is assassinated in broad daylight on national t.v. it sent a message to all others who came after him.
For me, he was the last decent president America has had.
You still buying that stupid loan wolf theory.....that it was Oswald?
Seems to me you need to do a little research. Also read history down through the ages .....assassinations happened all the time.
loosely related to the topic and then claim the original point holds up.
#1 - yes, United States Notes existed. I've held one. I never said they didn't exist.
#2 - he didn't put 4billion into circulation. He didn't put ANY into circulation. He re-authorized the Secretary of the Treasury to do so. And it was no where near 4 billion. The law didn't allow for anywhere near that amount to be in circulation. Here's a test question for you - what law am I referring to, when was it passed, when was it amended, and what does it have to do with this EO?
#3 - the other reasons are irrelevant to this one. Do not introduce extraneous matter to try to move the discussion off point. The topic is "was JFK killed because he tried to end the Fed, reduce their power, and/or increase the circulation of silver and/or interest free notes, and as a result, decrease the circulation of FRNs?" The answer is a resounding NO. And neither you or anyone else has offered one shred of proof he tried to do any of that. Here's your second test question - Have you read the EO for yourself?
#4 - He didn't piss off the banksters. They were his friends and friends of his family. He was essentially in bed with them. Get your history straight.
#5 - there you go again with RFK and JFK Jr. Stick to the topic please. Prove the original point first.
#6 - I've been awake. I first found out about this "myth" some 22 years ago. I bought into it just like you did. BUT, then I decided to check it out for myself. I decided to read the actual EO. Which then caused me to read the EO it amended, and so on, as well as the law it was issued under. I then studied what was going on at that time and the issue of the particular law in question that prompted the EO and what government policy - KENNEDY'S POLICY was at that time. And this led me to only one conclusion - the myth was false. There was no proof of it. Someone with little or no understanding of what was actually going on, saw something on the surface and made the illogical leap without proof.
I am awake. That's why I don't buy this nonsense.
Riddle me this - if JFK was trying to destroy the fed and decrease FRN circulation and increase US Note circulation - then why did he ALSO sign a bill that gave the Fed the authority to print and issue UNIT and TWO UNIT FRNs? (what we refer to as $1 and $2 bills) The smallest bill they could print before he signed that law was a FIVE. Yet Kennedy gave them the power to issues ONEs and TWOs. Does that sound like someone trying to DECREASE issuance of FRNs? (especially since US Notes came in those smaller denominations as well)
That was test question #3.
Here's question #4 - please explain your knowledge of the silver shortage and market prices for silver during the 1960s, which precipitated the Act that Kennedy signed that then precipitated the EO in question which the end result - under Kennedy's policy - was to REDUCE the amount of US Notes in circulation and to END silver coinage entirely. Please also explain, how in light of these facts, that anything you've said above, or that has been purported by this false myth stands any longer as legitimate.
Question #5 - Oswald is irrelevant here. The question isn't "who" but "why?" Sure, it was a conspiracy, no doubt. If it wasn't, there'd be no need for sealed files and a coverup. Someone has something to hide.
But that doesn't automatically mean whatever crackpot baseless theory someone repeats enough times on the internet is thus true.
Here's your 5th test question - please explain how repeating a false statement makes it magically true.
#6 addendum - I've done my research. I've read the EO and the one it amended and the law it was issued under and I studied the subject of why all of it was done.
You obviously have not. Heed your own advice. Until you read the EO, the one it amends, and the law it was passed under and begin to have a clue as to what was going on - then you honestly are babbling and do not know of what you are talking about.
Will one thing is for sure.... If Kennedy's order #11110 had been able to continue with United States notes, the Fed's Federal Reserve note would have been toast! There would not be a 16 trillion debt either! Kennedy's order would have taken control from the banksters and returned it back to the people where it belongs! Seems to me like the banksters had all the reason in the world to stop Kennedy! Its either stop him or lose their fiat money system!
Please read G. Edward Griffin's explanation of this EO and the surrounding laws.
AGREE with you. "For me, he was the last decent president America has had."
And I also doubt that Lee Harvey Oswald did it.
of WHY whomever killed him did so.
The thread is about WHY.
You two are ignoring what you can't prove or back up with any facts and are trying to divert the discussion.
The issue is "did he try to end the FED? did he try to increase silver circulation? did he try to increase US Note circulation? did he try to decrease FRN circulation?"
The ONLY shred of anything CLAIMED to point to a "yes" for all of those is the EO 111110. But have you READ that EO?
Do you know what it says?
Try reading it. Then get back to us.
Some 150,000 tons of gold bars from what I understand from over 100 country's to fund a peaceful space program and solve the worlds problems but after Kennedy was killed whoever was behind his death took the money And used it for the Cold War buildup.
Have a source?
But that last part seems nuts. So someone had that sort of stash to fund a peaceful project and solve all the world's problems, but when Kennedy died, they decided to go all end-of-world on us and instead funded a military build up?
Sounds like someone drank too much or smoked too much before they came up with that one in their basement!!
How about some sources...
"Executive Order 1110 gave the US the ability to create its own money backed by silver. ...
On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.
With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificats were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the gevernment the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.
After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued. His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 11110 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the New York banking establishment."
something about that didn't add up/