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Is the United States Flag still honorable?

Short story to start:

So the other day, my dad asked me to come help him fold our flag.
During folding, I said there should be a machine that allows one person to fold it with ease.
In response, he said that it should be an honor to help fold the flag, and To that, I said no it shouldnt be an honor. I did not however expand on that to him and we didn't say much else about it. What I was thinking when I said it is that it should be something that is just done and doesnt require honor to do it; the honor should be in flying it.

Anyway, story aside, that led me to think about the United States flag and if it still has any honor in it. The American flag is supposed to represent the 13 original colonies and the 50 states that make up this country. Over time, it has come to represent the idea of freedom and a society ruled by laws and justice.

Does it still represent this?

-We are in various countries right now and whats being done in the name of the US and under the flag is upsetting people(to put it lightly), not just in those countries, but here at home.
-From invading nations to drone strikes in the Middle east, people are not only dieing, but living in fear they could be next.
-We have a federal government that is increasingly over-ruling the states on various issues, one example being the dispute with Arizona trying to enforce immigration laws.
-We have more and more implementation of security in an effort to protect people, many of which, do not even want this protection.
-We have ever more definitions of what makes a potential terrorist, with more recent examples being those who keep more than a weeks worth of food in the house and those who are frustrated with mainstream idiologies.
-We have a police force that increasingly seems out of touch in how to deal with people in a social manner, and takes to simply shouting orders.

This list could continue and all of this is done under the flag of the United States; this flag which is supposed to represent something good.

So my question here is do you think that this flag still represents what it is meant to? Does it still have any honor to it? Or if you dont like the word honor, think about the question of whether it is still the symbol of good it was meant and came to be.



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robot999's picture

I fly

the CIVIL flag aka Peace flag in front of my house. I get a lot of questions about it, and it provides me an opportunity to educate people about freedom and the current state of our Govt.

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

I find it hard to believe

I find it hard to believe that almost no one has an opinion on this.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

It is.

It is. But we've done it grave injury.

It's too bad our government is no longer worthy of our flag, however. And a lot of we citizens aren't either--when we place greater importance on BS sports and dumb TV shows than on our own history. When our shriveled notions of freedom revolve around what color car to buy... or at which fast food restaurant to phagocytize cheap GMO cornstuffs. Our government is nearly completely a criminal entity in its interactions around the world these days.

Since the end of WWII we have been a lazy people, sitting around patting ourselves on the back for a job well done. And while we've done this, the very type of people we set out to defeat in that war have taken over our country, its resources, its government, its industries, etc.

We're imperfect as a nation, as a people, as a "culture"; we always have been. I am not an apologist. But for feck's sake, why are we so allergic to self-criticism? We'll never reach our golden destiny if we're bound by the chains of our own arrogance. Perhaps it's karma in addition to engineered collapse sending us to the sewer as a nation. ????

But our flag represents (or should) a drive to always right our wrongs and so forth.

We've allowed ourselves to be disenfranchised from this, however.

And I worry that the flag, very soon, may no longer have any need for 50 stars; there soon may only be one big star in the blue field, representing our federal state, as we the states are on the way to becoming obselete. Which really, really sucks.

NAU anyone?

What would the Founders do?

you know - I had a similar thought when I saw the flim

THE FUTURE OF FOOD like 5 years ago. They were showing grain (genetically modified grain that our military owns half the patent rights to) being shipped off in huge ships to go to some third world country. The big bags of grain had the FLAG and USA printed on them.

I couldn't help but think that 100 years from now people watching this footage would have the same feelings that I have often experienced when seeing a swastika.

Yes, this is what I had

Yes, this is what I had thought as well. How will people look back at the symbol of America.

Anyway, no one else has any thoughts?

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.