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Think twice before you put up a Christmas tree this year...

<< Jeremiah 10 >>
King James Version
1Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

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Martin Luther is why I can

Martin Luther is why I can celebration Reformation Day on October 31st, and not Halloween.

FYI, I am not lutheran, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching this film about Luther:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_(1953_film)

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

The real Luther believed a

The real Luther believed a lot of things many nonLutheran protestants prefer to cover up, such as his acceptance of the perpetual virginity of Mary and consubstantiation and ubiquity of Christ's presence in the Lord's Supper.

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He came out of all that

Martin Luther eventually came to the truth of what is written in the Bible and then he came out of all that and he suffered greatly for that!

Mary was only a virgin before Jesus was born.

The Bible is VERY clear that after Christ's birth she had other children, both male and female.

She was a sinner like we all, and needed a Savior too as she spoke of in Luke 1

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

With Christians like these,

With Christians like these, who needs atheists..?

Thus saith the Wikipedia (with references)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutheran_Marian_theology

It is the demonstrable ignorance of some Christians, even about verifiable historical facts about famous Christians, that opens the Church to the scorn that is poured upon it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_tree
While it is clear that the Christmas tree originates in Renaissance and early modern Germany, there are a number of speculative theories as to its ultimate origin. (emphasis added).

The first evidence of decorated trees associated with Christmas Day are trees in guild halls decorated with sweets to be enjoyed by the apprentices and children. In Livonia (present-day Latvia and Estonia), in 1441, 1442, 1510 and 1514,[citation needed] the Brotherhood of Blackheads erected a tree for the holidays[clarification needed] in their guild houses in Reval (now Tallinn) and Riga. On the last night of the celebrations leading up to the holidays,[clarification needed] the tree was taken to the Town Hall Square where the members of the brotherhood danced around it.[7] A Bremen guild chronicle of 1570 reports that a small tree decorated with "apples, nuts, dates, pretzels and paper flowers" was erected in the guild-house for the benefit of the guild members' children, who collected the dainties on Christmas Day.[1] In 1584, the pastor and chronicler Balthasar Russow in his Chronica der Provinz Lyfflandt (1584) wrote of an established tradition of setting up a decorated spruce at the market square where the young men "went with a flock of maidens and women, first sang and danced there and then set the tree aflame".

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Wow! You hit it.

Not only that but an Atheist is better than a false teaching Christian. It is the false teaching Christian that subdues households and leads people astray. Atheists are at least honest about their false beliefs.

exactly anothernobody

as this scripture states

Hosea 4:9 KJV

And there shall be, like people, like priest: and I will punish them for their ways, and reward them their doings.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Mister nobody, I have been

Mister nobody, I have been insulted by experts. Don't waste your breath trying to appear clever, or to insult me.

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Insult?

I am not here to insult you. I am only stating facts. If the facts are insulting then that is something you have to work out yourself. But to be honest I have read your comments and it appears that you are here for the sole purpose of instigation as what many here call a troll. You have no Scriptural arguments or reasoning. I see no reason to respond to you any more.

It certainly misapplied the Jeremiah passage.

You might be interested to see the links in my comment below (1-re the Jeremiah passage, 2-re the origin of the Christmas tree) from a Lutheran website. http://www.dailypaul.com/257696/think-twice-before-you-put-u...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

And Rastas should not wear

And Rastas should not wear their hair the way they do, cos somewhere in the Bible it says 'Dread not'. Sheesh, someone needs to get out more, and do some historical research instead of regurgitating James Frazer. Leave that to the atheists.

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Is it ok if you're not a

Is it ok if you're not a christian and just celebrate christmas as a secular holiday?

Fortune Favors the Bold

Isn't that a tad hypocritical

Isn't that a tad hypocritical JG300? Giving presents away? Shouldn't you set up a stall and sell them? And then dragging in some fat guy in a red - note RED - suit, who will judge people worthy on the basis of a very communist notion of good and bad... ;)

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How about a thread

of think a hundred times before putting up a menorah.

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

Come on, your worse than Macy's

I haven't even picked out my Halloween costume yet and your going right to Christmas....

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

Its not being vain if you burn it up in a woodstove

I usually cut the tree up after the season and burn the dried up thing in my wood stove, thereby proving its not a thing that was worshiped.

It provideth me heat and fuel for the cooking of the new years Tbone steak.

Uh Oh

A burnt offering! Thou art doomed!

dude, that could also describe that dresser with silver nobs in

your bedroom.

I like my harmless Christmas Tree. I think it's prettyful.

Oh Noes, the dreaded

Oh Noes, the dreaded Christmas Tree. I'm an atheist and I put one up every year. I love the Christmas Carols and all that shit, but I remain an atheist

I know I should just kindly let it go...

...but why has the Daily Paul suddenly turned into Bible study?

Keeping my tree. It's not Pagan or Christian or Buddhist or Voodoo. It's a tree.

Pagan/Christian/Moot

Do whatever the phuck you want. I don't give a schit.

I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it.
Voltaire

Why the down votes? Good

Why the down votes? Good points?

It's not for me (Christmas Tree)

It's for my cats. They dig balls.

Edited to add: I don't really think it's the tree that get's worshiped, it's the MANDATORY PRESENTS. By all means, get rid of those.

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness.” - Mark Twain

YAWN

I dont care about x-mas or Israel......

BUT....

do you like shiny balls?

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness.” - Mark Twain

I am not in the House of Israel

I am Christian

If you read the rest of the chapter...

...it's clear this is referring to idols, statues that do not speak and have to be carried around (verse 5). Truncating the chapter at verse 4 is conveniently misleading.

tog, the fact is that you are right

There are those who do what they want to their destruction and there are those who seek to do Yah's will to their salvation. Those who keep the indoctrinated pagan rituals also reject Scripture and are free to make that choice. You keep seeking the truth and Yah's will and you will do well. You can only speak the truth and move on. And you should expect the world to vote you down but remember the world hated Yahshua also so you are in good company.

You also have to be on guard..

...against looking down your nose at others because of legalism -- can become like the Pharisees. Being proud of not having a Christmas tree and whatever other rules you might set up can itself become an idol, if it leads your heart to the condition of the Pharisee.

I do not look down my nose

I am merely upholding the truth. What are you upholding? Falsehood. The Pharisees were wrong in upholding their traditions such as washing hands which were not biblical and Yahshua and the Apostles called them out for it. Even John the Baptist called them a brood of vipers because of the FALSE TEACHING. Are you accusing him of "looking down his nose"? You are the one who is in bed with the Pharisees because of your false teaching. And the fact that you do not care for truth and law and try to label anyone who does uphold the truth as legalistic only shows your rebellion against GOD.

Yahshua himself said: "The Pharisees sit in Mosheh's seat, therefore do as they say but do not do as they do." If you understood this then you would not be so quick to uphold unrighteousness.

Upholding the truth...

...by ripping four verses out of context, ignoring the fifth and following verses in the chapter, distorting the meaning to fit your idea of it being a literal Christmas tree, and then consigning anybody who doesn't bow down to the false idol of your man-made system of interpretation to hell? Yeah, that kind of reeks of the Pharisees. I don't fault you for not wanting to celebrate Christmas -- that's your freedom. I will fault you for twisting these verses out of context and trying to place them as burdens on others' backs and telling them they're going to hell if they don't follow your views.