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Think twice before you put up a Christmas tree this year...

<< Jeremiah 10 >>
King James Version
1Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.



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Wrong answer

He is not talking about taking part in paganism. He is talking about the pagan people of the world judging the believers he is writing to concerning keeping the Scriptural feasts, new moon observances and the biblical Sabbath. He is not condoning the do as you wish christanity that you seem to think it means.

Those of you who continue in sin and teach others to do the same will have a rude awakening. And it isn't me who judges but the author of our existence who will judge.

I have to agree.

Christmas trees ARE merely a cultural tradition. If you don't like them, fine. But those who do put up Christmas trees are doing so because they want to have a manifestation of their celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.

Pagans today do not have "Christmas trees." Those who do are either Christians or those who want to cash in on Christian sentiment.

In my opinion, Christmas celebrations are one of the things that are RIGHT about America. Acknowledgement of the importance of Jesus Christ and a general spirit of joy, charity, and beauty. The commercialization will be greatly reduced when the economy crashes, but I hope the spirit will remain.

Even prayer can be abomination to God

if you do not follow His Law. God burned up people who were burning incense for Him, He sent fire from the sky because of that simple little gesture, the Bible says what it says and I hold it to be true. If you have a Christmas tree in your house, it is a false idol sitting in your living room regardless of how good the intent may be. It is to take away from God, not to glorify Him. Be careful lest ye be decieved.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

You are right that God decides how He is to be worshiped

But I have no idea of what you alluding to by saying God hated incense being burned for Him. Have you bothered to read the Old Testament?

As you said, the Bible says nothing about Christmas trees. Therefore, it is merely your opinion that they are false idols. People usually put their tree on the curb, chip it into mulch or burn it like trash after the Christmas season. That's an awful way to treat an idol, don't you think?

Idols are more than mere symbols or expressions of Faith or emotion.

Would you refuse to put a cross in your house or a flag in your yard?
They are symbols and reminders- not idols.

Christ wasn't nailed to a cross

He was nailed to a stake.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Seek and you will find where God reigns fire from

Heaven and burns up people burning incense for Him. The Devil prefers that you worship Christ through the rituals and idols of the Devil, that is all I am saying. It is either righteous or unrighteous, you cannot glorify God with symbols around you that glorify Satan, no matter how hard you pray. The Christmas tree glorifies Satan, not God, and is an abomination, and I am not judging you, just pointing it out so you can see if it is truth.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

What are you talking about? I

What are you talking about? I put up a tree every year and I loathe christianity.

You loathe Jesus?

How could anyone hate Jesus?

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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"I am the door." -Jesus Christ

Let me answer your question

Let me answer your question with another question (which is a personal peeve). Is that what I said?

You just made the intended

You just made the intended point.

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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"I am the door." -Jesus Christ

No, when I intend to make a

No, when I intend to make a point I make it directly. Just to be clear, I loathe all superstitious religions.

I do not judge

but God's grace will end eventually and a side will be chosen by each one of us based on our knowledge. I am sharing my knowledge revealled to me through God's grace so that people can make a choice.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

I never looked at the

I never looked at the christmas tree as a religious object, just a pretty something where the core values it represented are peace, good-will, and giving.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

That is how we get decieved

watch and pray, the Devil finds his way into your life anyway he can get in. I never did either until my eyes were opened. I am staying as far away from the Devil as I can. It seems he is really ramping up his ways around the world these days setting the stage.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

You are missing the step where

You are missing the step where something which is looked at as non-religious, becomes an idol.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

We haven't

had a x-mas tree for years because of this passage. My family respects our decision. Besides, Christ was most likely born during a warmer season as the shepherds were in the fields with their flocks.

Shepherds didn't take care of their flocks during the winter?

I doubt that many had huge barns or ample hay or grain. And the Holy Land does not normally endure blizzards or intense cold...

the wintertime temperature in the Middle East is online

check it out for yourself.

the bible says that 3 feasts should be observed.
They are Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles (Sukkot).

A sukkot is also a word for a cattle shed.

Per wikipedia:

Bethlehem has a Mediterranean climate, with hot and dry summers and cold winters. Winter temperatures (mid-December to mid-March) can be cold and rainy. January is the coldest month, with temperatures ranging from 1 to 13 degree Celsius (33–55 °F). From May through September, the weather is warm and sunny. August is the hottest month, with a high of 27 degrees Celsius (81 °F). Bethlehem receives an average of 700 millimeters (28 in) of rainfall annually, 70% between November and January.

What did you want me to check? This does not seem cold to most Americans for a winter temperature.

I challenge each of you to find the word christmas in the bible.

That in and of itself should tell you that it is wrong and merely a tradition of wicked men.

It is wrong (evil) because we are not to add to or take away from the original scripture.

While you are at it, look up the words "catholic" and "protestant" for me also.

All you need is the word of God for the word was made flesh. Any other path leads directly to hell.

See 2 Peter 2 and run (don't walk) away from your false church / false teacher before he decides to take you and your kids on an easter egg hunt.

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Agreed

I believe all churches have been corrupted and just study the word with friends at eachother's house now. I have learned so much since leaving the organized church. God bless.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Check this out...

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http://atruechurch.info

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Specifically check out the statement of faith after reading what's on the home page.

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All Bibles have been compromised

Oral teachings were handed down for centuries before most were written. The Roman Catholics "cherry picked" the scriptures, completely leaving out the Book of Enoch, the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Judas (among others). The biblical "prophecies" are found in other religions that predate Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The Bible contains massive contradictions, not the least of which is cautioning against Astrology, which predicted the birth of the "savior."

"Yahweh" or Allah are vain, duplicitous, vengeful,bloodthirsty and elitist. Sounds more like Satan to me. Gnostics, who were the "Ron Paul supporters" of Christianity believed Jesus was sent to "save" us from the evil god "Yahweh" and was an avatar of the "God of the unimanifest," or "quantum potential". For their beliefs, they were expelled from the Roman Catholic Church and barred from the Council of Nicea (sounds just like the RNC, does it not?) Those of you who cling to the illusion of duality are all committing Pagan heresy. Meanwhile, please enjoy your Christmas trees and decorations as they express your joy for the season and each other and stop trying to foment conflict where there is none. If Jesus taught us anything, he taught us to love God (the infinite potential) and each each other without qualification.

The Bible tells us that the Devil

will come with all decievableness, even right into the churches. The Bible states idolatry is an abomination to God. Having a Christmas tree in your house is not different than hanging a pentagram on the wall because you like how it looks. The Bible has no contradictions if you get the right version of it and let it define itself. I have been studying it quite awhile with a Concordance and have yet to find any contradiction when I let one scripture verify another scripture. This will be my first year without a tree or Halloween decorations.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

"Let it define itself?"

Of course you will find little contradiction when you decide that you are the ultimate authority on it's interpretation. You will be extremely susceptible to twisting anything to your viewpoint. Don't you see this temptation? You are in a very vulnerable place.

"[9] And he said: He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. [10] And when he was alone, the twelve that were with him asked him the parable.
[11] And he said to them: To you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but to them that are without, all things are done in parables: [12] That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand." -Mark 4

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/48004.htm

This is an example of how Christ wished to found a church (certain individuals who were entrusted with further knowledge and insight) to give the correct interpretation to what He was teaching. Clearly He cared for all of His listeners, but He drew a distinction when he said those who were "without."

John concludes his last chapter, "But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written."

We can not depend entirely on the Bible. There is much more. The Bible is the inspired Word of God, but not the only means by which God has left us a tangible way of learning about Him and doing His Will.

I am not the ultimate authority

I let the Bible define itself, line by line, precept upon precept, here a little and there a little. It defines itself, I don't claim to define it. It is it's own dictionary if you study it thoroughly, it is it's own thesaurus if you study it thoroughly. A Concordance will help along with this as it gives you the translation of each word in the Bible. One verse could bring you more places than you could fill the entire time of your whole life, it truly is beautiful.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Can't we just enjoy Christmas

Can't we just enjoy Christmas as a birthday celebration and the tree, fairly modern in its tradition, is just a birthday decoration. I don't get where you call it pagan worship. No one is "worshipping" the tree.

A Christmas tree is in no way

pagan worship. All the old heathen crap is just that, and has no power whatsoever. People who claim all that old crap has power over me are foolish and superstitious, and if anyone claims that I am worshiping the Baals with a Christmas tree, they are ignorant, foolish, and superstitious.

We most certainly can celebrate the Advent. The Christians in the Apostolic Age began giving each other gifts to celebrate the special time of Christmas. Celebrating Christmas is an almost 2,000 year old tradition, and more power to it!

Decorate a tree, eat fudge, sing Carols, give lavish gifts, feast, drink wine, feed the birds. Do it all!!! Amen.

Why do you think the Bible

says the whole world will wonder after the beast, it is traditions like Christmas, it is movies, it is music, sin has soaked into everything. That is how the whole world will end up wondering after it, and it will be through deception.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

I pray that anyone who reads your post,

and others that make the false claims as you have, will actually read Scripture and see just how wrong you are.

Deuteronomy 6:10-18 is a good place to start. It's not a matter of what "power" they have because they are just stupid traditions anyway. It is a matter of what GOD says to do and not do.

Then look up the origins of christmas. Here is just one place.

http://www.history.com/topics/christmas

"In Rome, where winters were not as harsh as those in the far north, Saturnalia—a holiday in honor of Saturn, the god of agriculture—was celebrated. Beginning in the week leading up to the winter solstice and continuing for a full month, Saturnalia was a hedonistic time, when food and drink were plentiful and the normal Roman social order was turned upside down. For a month, slaves would become masters. Peasants were in command of the city. Business and schools were closed so that everyone could join in the fun.

Also around the time of the winter solstice, Romans observed Juvenalia, a feast honoring the children of Rome. In addition, members of the upper classes often celebrated the birthday of Mithra, the god of the unconquerable sun, on December 25. It was believed that Mithra, an infant god, was born of a rock. For some Romans, Mithra's birthday was the most sacred day of the year."

If you want to satisfy yourself and reject GOD that is your business but don't encourage others to throw away their salvation also. Pleasing Him takes precedence over pleasing your flesh.