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Defining Cults

Hi,

You know who I am. Sort of.

The RPF is already aware that I am wrapping up my online presence.

Hopefully, I will be able to do this by my own choice, and I will not be dragged off to the "Gulags" by the government, or a psychiatrist, or my family.

The family member that I live with, who is from NY state, just gave the Orioles a standing "O" and went to bed, so I'm good with her for the evening, I believe.

She is quite the flip-flopper ;-)

Before I completely remove myself from the internet (it will happen, be patient) I would like to direct you all to the many fine blogs I have been keeping over the past year or so.

The latest is called "SOCIALISM IS DEAD - AMERICA IS RISING".

http://socialismisdeadamericaisrising.blogspot.com/

Yesterday, I gave my "diagnosis" of socialism.

I said it was a cult.

http://socialismisdeadamericaisrising.blogspot.com/2012/10/t...

I want to "define" cults here and will do so on my blog in a sec.

My definition is:

A cult is a person or group of people who believe in something and have killed others, needlessly, in the name of that belief.

That is my definition.

The opposite would be a religion.

My definition of a religion is a person or group of people who believe in something and have NOT killed others, needlessly, in the name of that belief.

That is my definition, as well.

So, basically, I am saying that, in my opinion, Ron Paulians, Gary Johnsoners, Libertarians, true Christians...

YOU ARE NOT OR ARE NOT PART OF A CULT.

Socialism is a cult.

That's all I got!

I will be gone off the interwebs soon. Taking off to chase the horizon.

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Religion is a cult though....

Religion is a cult though.... It sounds like your trying to kid yourself into believing otherwise.

By the way... there are A LOT of killing based on religion. Don't know how you missed that one.

Religion is a way to herd the sheep through injected opinion and repetition.

Don't try to uphold something that has no structure... You will end up spending all your time denying statistics and evidence to elongate a false reality.

Sort of like the FED huh.

Sorry, I missed your post

Sorry, I missed your post somehow.

I'm not saying a religion can't be a cult. I'm saying a religion is not a cult.

A "false religion" is a cult.

A "false cult" is a true religion portrayed by others as a cult.

The truth lies in what the person or group actually is.

Only the person or group knows for sure.

They can delude themselves into thinking otherwise, but if they are true, then they are that thing.

They may betray their true identity, we all do regarding things at times, at least I believe so. We are human, we are imperfect.

So, then in order to be true again, we must return to our belief and give more. Acceptance of our transgressions, forgiveness, and turn that into action, true action to the outside world, other people.

We give, we take our transgressions and turn them into gifts to others: our time, our love, our work, our understanding, etc.

Religions and cults, to me, are not the same thing.

If they were, then there would be no need for different words.

If those words mean the same thing to someone, that is their definition.

I don't think they're the same thing, but that's my definition.

"Come, Watson, come! The game is afoot."

In order to

be a cult, there has to be a collective. From what I gather, the Liberty Movement is nothing more than individuals who share similar views.

As for your definition of religion, many have been killed in the name of it, the Christian crusade being one example out of many.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Yes! I wasn't banned! And the post is still there!

Right. But I'm using my definition of "Christian". A Christian, which I referenced as a "true Christian" in the original post, only kills in self-defense, i.e. "just war".

A "true Christian" can still just call him/herself a "Christian", and not have to refer to him/herself as a "true Christian" because (imo) a Christian = a true Christian, i.e. one who adheres to the "just war" principle etc. An individual who calls him/herself a Christian but does not adhere to that principle may call him/herself a Christian, but, imo, they are not. They are a "false Christian".

This is where numbers (of people, i.e. majorities), lies, and perception obfuscate the truth.

A true Christian knows that they are a true Christian, and they don't need to call themselves by that title.

They are who they say they are. They know the truth.

The truth of the "false Christian" has to be revealed.

I'm not going to try to explain this, unless you want me to. I shoot from the hip.

If it's helpful, cool.

If not, BAN AWAY!!1!

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"Come, Watson, come! The game is afoot."

Also, I just don't have time

Also, I just don't have time to say much more, and I wasn't expecting a reply.

My point was that, imo, "God" was killed (Nietzsche etc) but was religion killed?

And were the people that "killed God" and want to "end history" a religion or a cult? Or neither? Or both?

Seems to me, that their advantage is that they are a cult, but they are the superior one, and because they have that power, they can not only defeat other cults, but they can defeat true religion as well.

"Come, Watson, come! The game is afoot."

IOW, they're trying to turn

IOW, they're trying to turn "history" into a dream and true religion into a cult.

They're trying to say that there is no true religio, that all religions are cults.

That isn't true, imo.

But if they can get enough people to believe it, then they will have the power to bury true history and true religion, and the truth itself.

But as I said somewhere else on the internet:

THE TRUTH CANNOT BE KILLED. IT CAN ONLY BE BURIED ALIVE.

THE TRUTH DOESN'T DIE.

"Come, Watson, come! The game is afoot."

Anyhoo, just more blah blah

Anyhoo, just more blah blah blah from my heart to you guys.

Latuhs.

<3

"Come, Watson, come! The game is afoot."

One more thing...

So partially, this train of thought was inspired by the end of the Presidential debate where Obama referenced the "extreme" part of the Republican Party or some shit.

My question to him would be: are you extreme, President Obama?

To me, he was calling Ron Paul and the Liberty movement a "cult".

So my question to him would be, are you a socialist? And if you are, and if socialism is a cult, and if you are speaking in a derogatory manner to this group, why are you doing this?

If Ron Paul and the Liberty movement *are* a cult, then it's nothing more than competition.

*Note* I say that socialists are actually free-market capitalists when it comes to their cult, that they love competition, but then they corrupt their own hearts and become corporatists:

http://socialismisdeadamericaisrising.blogspot.com/2012/10/t...

But to me, they are not.

So why would he do it? Because if he is a socialist, and socialism is a cult, and if Ron Paul and the Liberty movement is a "religion", as I defined it earlier, then with numbers and force, they can destroy a true religion under the cloak of not being outed as a cult, or a false religion.

"Come, Watson, come! The game is afoot."