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They are babysat in public schools as kids, then babysat as adults by the TV.

I know a lot of very

I know a lot of very intellectual people who love to read and have college educations but still have the same narrow minded mentality. They watch the news on TV and never question what the media tells them. I think it has a lot to do with fitting in and being just like everybody else. It is only okay for these people to vent their frustrations through team sports and political parties where they know that others will support them. They dare not venture outside the group’s comfort zone.

I have had countless

I have had countless conversations with people who say, "I hate reading" or "I hate books". These people are adults out in the workforce. They aren't 'stupid', they just don't see the need to make the effort to educate themselves. They believe education stopped when they graduated high school. Truly, my education only began back in 1994 when I was 19 and began learning about government corruption. My education 'leveled up' in 2006 when I began listening to Dr. Paul. It's impossible to put the blame on just one thing, but I would say the diagnosis of today's culture is 'apathy'.


Happy Libertarian

People are also so overprogrammed these days...

that there just isn't time to read for fun.

I don't play, I commission the league.

metalhed19's picture

Same here man, i used to get

Same here man, i used to get pissed about it, but it's just that most people are living day to day. I guess...as the country goes Titanic all around them...

*Wisconsin Constitution* Article I, Section 25 "The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security,defense,hunting,recreation or any other law-abiding purpose"

" It just seems that all the

" It just seems that all the people I know just like to talk about football or just meaningless stuff."

That "meaningless" stuff has meaning to them. I know it's far less important as a whole. People are apathetic, they're content and some just don't understand what we're dealing with.

Despite what it seems, average IQ's have never been higher

Look up the Flynn effect. IQ scores have been on a steady increase since they have started being measured.

Brains have some ability to adapt to their own unique environments, and they can, to a small degree at least, reallocate resources from functions that aren't used as much to ones that are. Thus people nowadays have more need than ever before for abstract operations of devices, for instance. Whether this has come at the cost of more traditional functions of the brain is being debated, from what I understand.

All this is to say that I think it's more of a software problem than a hardware problem. While fluoride and organophosphate pesticides might be responsible for about a 5 IQ point drop on a population level, most people aren't going to get a solid grasp on logic without some kind of instruction. This brings us to the public school system, which teaches kids all the skills they need to exist in the world 80 years ago as a factory worker, and leaves them unprepared for everything important.

Which probably says more

Which probably says more about the meaningfulness of IQ tests, than about whether people are dumb or not...

Actually, that's kind of what Flynn thought


"Based on the presence of the effect on nonverbal tests such as the Raven's Matrices, Flynn believes that the increase is actually an increase in abstract problem solving rather than intelligence. Flynn (1994, 1999) favors environmental explanations for the increase in test scores."

AKA, the environment has been changing such that people are taking more tests than ever before, so they're better at taking tests.

In the past...

many dumb people would die. If you couldn't figure out how to feed yourself you'd have no food.

Now if you can't figure out how to feed yourself you can get an EBT card.

So if you stop worrying about survival because you're taken care of the only thing left to do is consume media which makes you even less intelligent.

tasmlab's picture

Detective novels

I really don't know the answer to your question,

But when you read libertarian stuff from the 40's or 50's they talk about how the whole population likes to read detective novels instead of engaging in intellectual pursuits.

AND they often use this in defense of free markets as the socialist leaning turn their noses down to the tastes of the unwashed who then want to say look "capitalism makes people engage in stupid behavior"

And then damn capitalism and insist that it is an imperative to have opera and Shakespeare in our schools and public TV stations, etc.,

I'm not sure I think it is bad if people want to not read books. In fact, if we had good politics (or none), it would be a boring subject and we could just spend our time watching football and watching movies and such.

Currently consuming: Morehouse's "Better off free", FDR; Wii U; NEP Football

I got into the biggest

I got into the biggest argument with a Mitt Romney supporter because I said I won't vote for him. Her only response was "they are two different people" yet she couldn't name one thing they disagreed on.

Yes people are getting dumber, it is our job to awaken the masses. Even though she'll vote for Mitt Romney, she will at least know who Gary Johnson is when she steps into the voting booth, where normally she wouldn't have even looked past the 2nd line.

People have always been

People have always been dumb.

It is just that people used to recognize their own ineptitude, and used to at least elect people who they knew were smarter than they were.

Now, people want officials that are just as stupid as the common man.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Mass hypnosis

Electronic brainwave entrainment, hypnotic suggestion in every TV show and movie, every bit of music tuned to an anxiety inducing tone rather than the correct musical tones - and of course chemical zombification courtesy of Big Pharma. They have been inundated with forces they are unaware of, and largely defenseless against. Lets hate THEM for it, not the bastards doing the deed.
Do you number yourself among the "dumb people" are are you a perfect, enlightened soul? EVERY ONE OF US has been lied to our entire life, a few of us were blessed enough to learn a LITTLE of the truth. A tiny fraction of those kept searching and found MORE truth. No one gets it all though, the lies are too deep and twisted, so stop thinking you are "all that."

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Music toned to axiety

Music toned to axiety inducing instead of correct tones? You may need to back this up with something.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

It has been discussed here at length in the past


Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.


And T.V.

It's because...

Boomers don't need to be smart to collect their handouts.

I don't play, I commission the league.

The "handouts" they use to feed their kids?

You and your ageism are cordially invited to "bite me."
STOP buying into the divide and conquer nonsense. Boomers had their income robbed their entire careers, and now they are getting a LITTLE of it back, and the government the robbed them is now convincing morons that it is the fault of the victims of the burglary.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

No, it's NOT "getting a little of it back".

The way things are going, my generation will never make enough money to pay down the Boomers' debt. The Boomers voted themselves our money from the public largesse and now everyone else is screwed. What happened to leaving the world to the next generation in a better state than it was when your generation took over?

I don't play, I commission the league.

Social Security started in 1935,

a long time before the Baby Boomers started being born. So, yes, the boomers have been robbed their whole lives, and will not get back the purchasing power they put into their retirement, not to mention their pensions are going to be stolen. The Boomers kids have continued to vote for debt, sheesh!! The Federal Reserve started when two of my grandparents were ages 3 and 7, so it was THEIR parents, my great grand parents, who voted for the congress that invented it. The problem and blame land on every generation, including yours.

Stop blaming the Boomers for all the ills of the world.


You do realize that Boomers have had the majority of political power for a while now.... it's your fault at this point for not doing a thing about it and not only keeping the unsustainable entitlement state but expanding it.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Ever visit reality?

What political power do you think boomers have? That would be the BANKSTERS that have ALL the political power - been that way since about 1913.
Keep falling for their divide and conquer propaganda, it will make you FREE!

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

It's always been like that

People have written about the stupidity of the masses since the beginning of recorded history. John Stuart Mill said (I think in the 1930s) "It is preeminently a society in which the test of a great mind is agreeing in the opinions of small minds." Around the same time, the president of Columbia University said "thinking is one of the most unpopular amusements of the human race. Men hate it largely because they can not do it." Though, I'm sure that the fluoride, public ed., media, etc. contribute to the problem greatly.


It's easy to look around your own world and time period and come away thinking people are more ignorant and clueless by the day.

But consider this:

Think of all the greed, anger and stupidity you can see in historical events throughout time.

People following tyrants and evil regimes.

People laughing at or even attacking and killing people who discover scientific principles that could save thousands or millions of lives.

Not adopting those ideas, even when they are clearly provable and obvious to anyone that looks with an open mind ... for decades, or even centuries out of fear and ignorance.

People blindly following 'religions' clearly invented by unscrupulous people who want control over their minds, actions and property. And never seeing how silly they are being to believe in it.


Human beings are basically pack animals - like dogs, or wolves - that have developed self-awareness, highly abstract and logical reasoning, sophisticated language and communications, and have an opposing thumb to make tools.

Emotionally, intellectually and socially?

Still basically pack animals.

Grouping together artificially in packs.

Socially slaves to sumbissive / dominance rules.

Following alphas.

People who can see the truth for what it is, think outside of the social pressure of the 'norm', and come to original conclusions are rare and always have been.

This is why only about 10% of the population have any clue about what's really going on right now.

"I'm sure that the fluoride, public ed., media, etc. contribute to the problem greatly."

Yes, they are aggravating factors to be sure. But the dumb pack animal nature of humanity is at the root of it.

Here is a suggestion to win people over.

If only we could all get behind an an ad/video that condenses all the best points of the principles of truth,freedom and peace in a clear and concise manner,I think it could go viral nationwide and worldwide.Anyone got a better idea? I'm all ears.

Like others have mentioned,

Like others have mentioned, publicly funded indoctrination is directly to blame.

But it goes deeper than that. Publicly funded anything works by mutualizing effects of individual behavior. So, instead of the negative consequences of A behaving like an idiot, is 100% felt by A, it is split up amongst others, making A's incentive to not be an idiot that much weaker.

This is the guiding principle behind public schooling, public healthcare, public police and security services, and public anything whatsoever. If we lived in a free world, non idiots would simply avoid contact with the idiots, as well as not bother subsidizing their idiotic lifestyles. Leaving the idiots little choice but change their ways or die. And death is a pretty powerful motivator to not be an idiot, just as it is a for not being unhealthy, not making oneself too easy a target for crime etc.

But in the dystopian hellhole we currently live in, idiots can continue their idiocy without being inconvenienced in the slightest, as long as they serve as reliable footsoldiers/voters for those wanting to perpetuate themselves as the rulers of Dystopia.

Many generations of state schooling

have come home to roost. People don't read because either they can't or it's too difficult to be fun.

ecorob's picture

when life becomes easy...

thinking becomes useless!

Americans became desensitized and soft after 1979.

444 straight days of "Nightline" with Ted Koppel telling us about our embassy people being held captive in Iran sucked the life out of us and we haven't regained our bearings yet. There is ALWAYS something there, something "next" to keep us off balance.

Fluoride, indoctrination, big pharma...the perfect storm to dumb down Americans.

When the ptb discovered they could kill our leaders without impunity (1963/1968/1968) we were dead in the water.

Easy pickens!

ONLY the internet has allowed us to regroup, to refocus, to place all things IN PLACE to understand.

I pray it isn't too late.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Prescription Drugs

My theory is Prescription / Designer drugs. Also why I think those of us not drugged down get concerned / depressed...Like a vicious cycle. Just remember when dealing w/ drugged down sheeple - don't take it personal. Their house could be on fire, and with the right drugs, they wouldn't give a damn. But I agree its a combo of issues mentioned in some of these other posts too.

Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. - Matthew 10:16