6 votes

Is Richard Gilbert selling fantasies? A conversation with Richard Gilbert.

Attorney Richard Gilbert claims that the Missouri Secretary of State will count all Ron Paul write in votes. I want to see the documentation that the Secretary of State will disregard Missouri law. Please read subsection (4) of Missouri 115.453:

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C100-199/1150000453.HTM

Ron Paul would have to file paperwork himself to be a write-in candidate and to have write-in votes for him counted.

Please note these two sentences in the subsection (4)of the law:

No person who filed as a party or independent candidate for nomination or election to an office may, without withdrawing as provided by law, file as a write-in candidate for election to the same office for the same term. No candidate who files for nomination to an office and is not nominated at a primary election may file a declaration of intent to be a write-in candidate for the same office at the general election.

Is Richard Gilbert stringing people along?

Read this conversation with Richard Gilbert that shows his competence and judge for yourself: http://i.imgur.com/Y8alD.png

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

All that and saving the Earth from certain destruction, too

He's still doing everything he can to help save the Earth from an impending polar shift. It looks like the old plan to use chemtrails to deflect the deadly cosmic rays might have been changed. Also, the blimps will no longer be in outer space, they will be inside the atmosphere, and he's no longer planning to use the gravitational force from the blimps to extract the deadly radiation, he's now using magnetism.

Exclusive - 30,000 Airships must be built that will fly in the Upper Atmosphere magnetically attracting Radiation Particles

Exclusive - We have made substantial progress on the design of an airship that can attract Trillions of Radioactive Particles

We are designing an Airship capable of atmospheric flight that will cargo 100 foot long iron beams magnetized by powder in commercial use

The magnetized beams will attract Radiation Particles in the Van Allen Radiation Belt-30,000 Airships will be needed

Governments will be in hiding underground during the Polar Shift leaving us to fend for ourselves as the Radiation falls to earth's surface

Saving Earth will not be trusted to Governments. We are devising our own plan for all citizens of the world to join together to save Earth

Airships will be based on Inflatable designs

The North Pole now is located in Russia-The Polar Shift is underway. In 3 years commencing June 2015 a rapid 90 day Polar Shift will occur

https://twitter.com/USA_Free_Press

Richard's twitter account

Those are posts on Richards twitter account about October 7th . . . great read!

Richard Gilbert's twitter account: https://twitter.com/USA_Free_Press

Anonymous Libertarians
fb.com/AnonymousLibertarians

Richard Gilbert now claims a settlement with Washington.

Here is the latest example of Richard Gilbert's silliness:
______________________

Breaking News - Exclusive via Attorney Richard Gilbert

The State of Washington has reached a full Agreement just now with Plaintiffs to the Write In Case.

Washington Agrees to permit Unconditionally any Write In Vote and will declare the Write In the winner of the State if the Write In gets the most votes without any restrictions.
_______________________

Washington already allowed a write-in as long as the candidate fills out this form: http://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/Presidential%20Write...

Didn't Ron Paul just say that he wasn't filling out any forms? Another big win by Richard Gilbert by claiming a success by getting an agreement that the State of Washington will continue to do what they already have been doing. You might want to note this statement on page one of the document:

"RESULTS - Write-in votes are not tabulated for individual write-in candidates unless enough write-in votes are cast to potentially change the outcome of the race"

More nothingness from Richard Gilbert . . .

Anonymous Libertarians
fb.com/AnonymousLibertarians

More on Richard Gilbert's claim of a settlement with Washington

More on Richard Gilbert's claim that Washington settled and Ron Paul write-ins will be counted . . .

Take a look at the list of 2012 President / Vice President Write-In Candidates in Washington. Ron Paul's name is not on the list.

You will notice that "Votes for an individual write-in candidate will not be tallied by name unless the total number of write-in votes cast exceeds the votes cast for the top vote getter."

From the Washington Secretary of State's web page:
http://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/2012PresidentVicePre...

Anonymous Libertarians
fb.com/AnonymousLibertarians

Richard Gilbert's claim of a settlement with Oregon?

Richard Gilbert claims that he achieved a settlement with Oregon to allow a Ron Paul write-in.

From the Oregon Secretary of States web page at:
http://www.oregonvotes.org/pages/faq/index.html

How do I run as a write-in candidate in Oregon?
There are no forms to file for running as a write-in candidate in Oregon. Your name will not be printed on the ballot, Oregon registered voters write your name in on their ballot. However, write-in candidates have the same campaign finance reporting requirements as any other candidate (see the Campaign Finance Manual). (ORS 254.550 write-in vote tally)

This is the form that Ron Paul would have to fill out after the fact if he won in Oregon: http://www.oregonvotes.org/doc/publications/forms/100_candid...

Oregon already allowed a Ron Paul write-in!

Oregon Law also says this:
http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/249.048

§ 249.048
Unsuccessful candidate not eligible as candidate
A candidate for nomination of a major political party to a public office who fails to receive the nomination may not be the candidate of any other political party or a nonaffiliated candidate for the same office at the succeeding general election. The filing officer may not certify the name of the candidate.

Ron Paul can't be a nonaffiliated candidate in oregon because he sought the nomination of the Republican Party in Oregon. You can vote for Ron Paul but even if he got the most votes he still wouldn't be able to win because of Oregon Law § 249.048.

Anonymous Libertarians
fb.com/AnonymousLibertarians

Did Richard Gilbert get Wisconsin to change their law?

Richard Gilbert pats himself on the back and claims Wisconsin as a big victory. He quotes a portion of a Wisconsin law and then says that he got Wisconsin to accept a Ron Paul write-in. He quotes this portion of a Wisconsin law as evidence:

8.185(2)
(2) Any candidates for the office of president and vice president of the United States as write-in candidates shall file a list of presidential electors and a declaration of candidacy in the manner prescribed in s. 8.21 with the board no later than 4:30 p.m. on the 2nd Tuesday preceding the day of the general election to choose the president and vice president of the United States.

You might want to read 8.185(2) in its entirety. It includes this:

"Compliance with this subsection may be waived by the board but only if the results of the general election indicate that a write-in candidate for the office of president is eligible to receive the electoral votes of this state except for noncompliance with this subsection. In such event, the write-in candidate shall have until 4:30 p.m. on the Friday following the general election to comply with the filing requirements of this subsection."

No big change in Wisconsin, no magic. This was already in the Wisconsin law.

Read the entire law 8.185(2)
http://docs.legis.wi.gov/statutes/statutes/8/185/2?view=section

Anonymous Libertarians
fb.com/AnonymousLibertarians

Richard Gilbert thought he would break California into 2 states!

Read this article to see what a crazed lunatic Richard Gilbert is:
http://www.queerty.com/everybody-involved-in-smelt-v-united-...

“We’re hoping to use the case in court as a springboard to get a proposition on the ballot that will break up California into two states,” said Richard C. Gilbert, a partner at Gilbert & Marlowe, a law firm with two offices in California.

Anonymous Libertarians
fb.com/AnonymousLibertarians

I Witness

Hard to comprehend how people would make such false accusations about another person and still think they have any credibility. Do you honestly think that an Attorney could make false claims without any repercussions? You do realize that Richard Gilbert is saying that he has reached agreements with Atty Generals of States---those same Atty Generals who could bring charges against Mr Gilbert for false information. Have you seen any such charges or disagreements from any of these Atty Generals?

Are you that ignorant or are the people in the DailyPaul so gullible that you could believe such claims of RONonymous?

Let me clear up some very bad information that is being spreading around;

Currently Missouri State Law, like many others State Laws require a candidate to file papers if they are to be a counted "write-in." However in a Federal Lawsuit addressing an Unconstitutional State Law, there are two choices for the state 1. They can fight it and take their chances in a Federal Court or 2. They can recognize that their law is Unconstitutional and enter into a settlement to allow the voters to unconditionally write in the candidate of their choice.

Iowa, Wyoming, Wisconsin and New Hampshire all have a written agreement with the Plaintiffs via Richard Gilbert that all write-in votes are now UNCONDITIONAL and will be counted and recorded.

Richard has received emails from Missouri stating that they agreed to the same conditions as Iowa. New York is also wanting to settle but needs to be finalized. So, if you are that ignorant to believe that State Laws cannot be over-ridden by a Settlement or a Judges ruling, I dont know what to tell you, its hopeless.

Pepper Draper
AZ Plaintiff

You realize

That Gilbert is a scumbag and a nobody right?

Gilbert has nothing to do with votes being counted anywhere. He's not involved with the process.

Oh, btw, I've got some awesome Mars real estate to sell you at the best price I'll have all year. Just posted your credit card number, address, social security number, and blood type in response to this thread to have it reserved for you! Better act now before all the land is claimed!

Eric Hoffer

He claims credit for that which already is . . .

New Hampshire, Wyoming, Iowa, and Wisconsin, four states that Richard Gilbert says that he reached an agreement with already allowed write in votes. Read about it:

New Hampshire: http://writein2008.blogspot.com/2008/04/new-hampshire.html

Wyoming: http://writein2008.blogspot.com/2008/04/wyoming.html

Iowa: http://writein2008.blogspot.com/2008/04/iowa.html

Wisconsin: http://writein2008.blogspot.com/2008/04/wisconsin.html

He still won't show us the paperwork on Missouri.

I want somebody to show me where in the constitution it says that states have to allow a write-in vote for president. When I read the constitution I find this:

From U.S. Constitution - Article 2 Section 1

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
____________________________

"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors"

According to the Constitution, the states don't have to allow the public to vote at all for president and their Legislature gets to decide how to conduct a vote if that is how they decide to appoint their Electors. Mr. Gilbert confuses what he thinks is fair play with what the Constitution actually says.

Anonymous Libertarians
fb.com/AnonymousLibertarians

Is it unconstitutional for a state to not allow a write-in vote?

Richard Gilbert talks a lot about how states not allowing write-ins is unconstitutional and keeps repeating that a law that is unconstitutional is null and void. I want to know what part of the constitution he is looking at that deals with the election of the president that makes it unconstitutional for the states to decide how to conduct their own elections? When I read the Constitution I find this:

From U.S. Constitution - Article 2 Section 1

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
____________________________

"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors"

According to the Constitution, the states don't have to allow the public to vote at all for president and their Legislature gets to decide how to conduct a vote if that is how they decide to appoint their Electors. Mr. Gilbert confuses what he thinks is fair play with what the Constitution actually says.

Anonymous Libertarians
fb.com/AnonymousLibertarians

Gilbert is not a friend of liberty..

Gilbert is hurting the liberty movement, another lie from him. I hope the people are wising up to his games, he is trying to ride out his two minutes of fame for months. Sad that he would jeopardize the movement for his own personal gain.

Swore to myself

and everyone's mother that I would vote for Ron in the general election even if it meant a write-in. After finding out he came in 2nd place in NH primary in both parties, and he had come in 2nd in the DNC primary via write in, yet the news didn't pick it up, I changed my mind.

Voting 3rd party, also m state doesn't count write-ins so I really don't have much of a choice. I do understand why people would want to do a write in, but it just isn't for me. I rather cast my vote against the 2 party system.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Yes

.