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Gary Johnson Disses Ron Paul, Father of Modern Liberty Movement, Says a Vote for Him is "Meaningless"

It's as if someone had carried you across miles of wilderness, to make the liberty message mean something which was finally heard around the world, after years and even decades of mockery, vitriol, and vicious personal attacks to make you pay for your refusal to pander. To play ball like the rest of us. Then when he is shunted aside by the most sustained campaign of dirty tricks imaginable, to call any remaining support for him "meaningless." Why? Because you are a crass politician who would sell his own mother for a vote.

Johnson said in an online forum:

As much as I support Ron Paul I think writing in his name will effectively be meaningless. Count on me to be a military non-interventionist. I think Kony could have been more effectively dealt with by letters of marque and reprisal.

Since Gary Johnson has exactly the same chance of winning as Ron Paul does - zero - even if Paul scores many write-in victories, then a vote for Johnson is just as meaningless from this perspective.

What is not meaningless is the clarity of Ron Paul's message, as the only member of congress, besides, in fairness, Dennis Kucinich, to stand up and loudly defend our rights and to oppose NDAA. Everyone knows what Ron Paul stands for, because he has paid for his convictions dearly. How then is any vote for him "meaningless?"

Ron Paul's write-in votes will be counted and duly reported out in the states of AL, IA, WI, PA, CA, VT, NH, DE, RI, ME, and now MO. California's electoral votes alone impact the election hugely, and a strong Ron Paul vote there will be noticed.

Ron Paul may not be able to win. Just the same as Gary Johnson, unless the man is truly insane, which would put him in the company of the major party candiates. No expression of a voter's free will and choice of message to send is "meaningless" just because it does not further the career of Gary Johnson.

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Gary will not win.

BUT he has the chance to accumulate enough votes so the Libertarian party TAKES federal election funding from the Republicans and Democrats and places it into the Libertarian party.

Your vote is your vote. Do what will make you happy.

But to say that voting for Ron Paul vs. voting for Gary Johnson have the exact same impact is just not true.

Is Ron Paul voting for Ron Paul?

No 3rd party will every be allow enough votes to matter

A 3rd party could have 60% of the vote and it still would be reported as <6%. That is the beauty of computer voting. The election is meaningless. Meetings, conventions, and events are what matters. Pressing the issues of RP matters. Staying significant by RP running for Texas governor in 2014 is what matters.


what a joke. I think the same thing!

To write in RP is dumb

Vote for Gary Johnson http://garyjohnson2012.com

and make it count!

This topic is straight out of the Fox News playbook!

What a total distortion!

Gary Johnson has a great deal

Gary Johnson has a great deal of respect for Ron Paul; he is not dissing him in the slightest. Ron Paul is no longer running for the Presidency - Gary is simply noting that fact. Stating a simple fact is no disrespect. Moreover, Ron Paul said he may vote for Johnson himself, and his vote is not an easy one to get.


NOW do you people see why Gitmo Gary doesn't deserve our vote?

I don't play, I commission the league.

I'll vote Johnson

But at this point it's pretty much A meaningless vote for either of them,other than the fact that the Libertarian Party may get more funding and respect if G.J.'s numbers are respectable.


Concentrate on local/state.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Come on now.

The title of this is so misleading. Obviously Gary Johnson isn't 'dissing' Ron Paul. He's being honest! Good lord people. He felt that he has more of a shot than Ron Paul does as he's on the ballot, he doesn't mean it to be a diss. Ease of of him, guys. All I see on here is you guys finding all the reasons to hate on him and honestly it's half the reason I rarely come on this site anymore. It's disgusting. Liberty is liberty.

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Which part of rigged election don't you people understand.

You people who think a vote for RP does not matter but a vote GJ matters are delusional. A vote for GJ or RP or Romney or Obama or anyone else does not matter. Were you not paying attention through the primaries? Have you no understanding of how diebold computer voting works. How the media covers-up any lie? Does anyone do actual research anymore? If this is a true representation of the Liberty movement, it is DOA. Maybe start here. www.blackboxvoting.org


Cured my apathy...If you choose to hold on to yours...More power to ya'

Wow! Really? Understanding

Wow! Really? Understanding how they cheat in the elections and trying to show others is not apathy, its caring enough to try to wake people up.

Nobody's vote counts. Its meaningless. Our country was taken over a long time ago. 1933 to be exact is when our country was given to the UN for bankruptcy administration. We've never paid off our debt so can't get out of bankruptcy. Why do you think they continue to raise the debt limit? It keeps us under control of the UN, it continues the national emergency that puts us under provisional Govt where our Constitution is literally suspended, and it keeps us in bankruptcy to perpetuate the cycle. We've been thrown under the bus for a long time now.

Didn't you see the cheating going on through this election? Do you think they only started to do that this year? They've been deciding our President for us for a long while now. Votes are meaningless, and like they did to Ron Paul, if he gets the majority of the votes, they will report he got 6% and if we're lucky, they might report he got 10% but they will never admit he may have won or even come close.


Blessings )o(

If he thinks he has a chance of winning then he is delusional

He should have said "Vote your conscience" which is what Dr. Paul says. Johnson gets smaller and smaller every day.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

And why was this posted

And why was this posted again? This is old and meaningless.

Vote For GJ Damnit! And help with getting thrid party into

future election cycles. Don't be so hard-headed!


are you really voting third-party in hopes of eventually fixing the election duopology?

that's like pulling your hair out so it grows faster.

So let's keep doing what

So let's keep doing what they've been doing all this time because it's worked so well. Did you ever stop to think that some of us ARE Libertarians and members of that party and we have the conviction to try to turn things around?

vote for gary if you want him to be president

but it shouldn't be for any imagined success in beating the 2-party system.


all this crap about counting votes is so frigging stupid. If Dr.Paul is not on a state ballot NO AMOUNT of votes will win him delegates to the electoral college.

A vote for Johnson does a lot that may not be obvious to the "hard headed". I will cast my vote for Johnson with the hope that it helps keep the rEVOLution alive.

BTW the OP is crap too. GJ did not "diss" Ron Paul. That notion exists only in your head.


You want to know something

else? This long time Ron Paul fanatic agrees with Gary Johnson! Uto I am "impure" now...

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Dishonest OP

...very dishonest. Gary Johnson did not "diss" Ron Paul. He didn't say anything negative about Ron Paul. He said that write-in votes for Ron Paul will not be counted, and that is a fact. There are States which never count write-ins at all, and other States where they will count write-ins, but only if the candidate submits certain forms by certain deadlines, which Ron Paul has not done and will not do. Hence, in those States, if you vote for Ron Paul, your vote will not be counted. You might as well write Ron Paul on the ballot, and then deposit that ballot directly onto the nearest trashcan. I'd call that pretty meaningless. Don't like it, change the election laws, but don't try to smear Gary Johnson for pointing out the truth of the matter.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."


GJ is NOT QUALIFIED to utter the words "Ron Paul" let alone use his platform and speak to RP voters.
GJ speaks to the weakest Paul supporters, the confused libs who followed Paul but did not get his constitutional role of gvt or sound conservative fiscal principles.
They only understood non intervention, and GJ even fails on that!!lol

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

You spread this lie like a robot who subscribes to the view

that if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. If his write in vote don't count then how do we have his write in tallies from 2008? Further complete disregard for truth.

Ron Paul 2008 write-ins:

Release the Sandy Hook video.

You want to talk about lying

You want to talk about lying but you posted something dishonest. GJ has done nothing but praise Dr. Paul and his work. He didn't diss him at all. If you want to make a point, make it, but don't be dishonest or misleading about it.


GJ dissed Paul POLITICALLY several times and by speaking directly to Paul supporters while on the gvt/tax payer campaign DOLE! Thats in IN MASSIVE DEBT as we speak!!! with ZERO support or organization. GJ survives on the discarded, left over FAT from the RP campaign.. and it was expendable, trust me.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016


Go Sue!

These freaks wouldnt know truth if it smacked their lying liberal faces.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

I am glad you listed the

I am glad you listed the states where Ron Paul's write in votes will be counted. As much as I support Dr. Paul, Gary may be right about a write in vote being meaningless in the other states.

I agree with Johnson

And a write-in vote for Ron Paul would be meaningless, where Johnson is on the ballot here in Calif. I will be voting for Johnson. His Votes will be tallied up on television and that does show and matter.


A vote for GJ is equally as meaningless. The last 'vote' of my life is going to Ron Paul!!!!! Stick it fuckers!

Nonsense and fear mongering.

Nonsense and fear mongering. Besides Johnson is right. It will be effectively meaningless voting for someone who is not on the ballot and won't get counted in most states...

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