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Reminder, Ron Paul's Write-In Votes Will Be Counted in Pennsylvania

Each write-in vote for Ron Paul will be counted exactly as Gary Johnson's will in the state of Pennsylvania. So a vote for Johnson is a vote against Ron Paul. We are protesting his treatment at the RNC and this is how we are doing it. Also we want to keep the Ron Paul message alive.

Neither can win this election, so send the strongest message. Come out Pennsylvania sharpen those pencils!

http://www.dailypaul.com/254109/states-where-no-declaration-...



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And in New Jersey!

:)

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

Are you sure about NJ?

That would be wonderful!

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They won't be counted. I

They won't be counted. I live in PA and considered a write-in campaign earlier this summer. A single write-in acts as a 1/33 vote or something like that. You would need thirty some Ron Paul write-ins for it to be counted as one vote, if they are even counted at all.

I've written-in names before, but just for the heck of it really. I understood they wouldn't even be counted.

They were cointed in 2008, here:

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2008/2008pres.pdf

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Please see reply below. Call your county elections dept. n/a

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Since you insist

I expect sue4theBillofRights to provide the DP with a tabulated Pennsylvania vote total for Ron Paul next month.

Since you insist on spreading misinformation you can be responsible for producing the tabulated results.

Johnsonistas are the people spreading misinformation saying

that Ron Paul votes won't be counted and that they could invalidate entire ballots. Blatant, shameless lies from a shameless, bottom-feeding campaign.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

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The gairy supporters are all GAY! They applauded RP being lured into sasha cohens hotel room...
It all fits.
Bottom feeders! lol

right on sue!

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

This is A perfect example

of people other than many liberals being collectivist. I applaud your collectivism.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Nice thought...

Sue is going to go back to working for the GOP. Probably someone's sister who gets to shred papers and hand out nametags.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

LOL the GOP would like nothing better than all Ron Paul's votes

being shunted harmlessly into a third party nobody with no clear message. But if it's a big Ron Paul write-in vote, they will curse because everyone knows exactly what he stands for and that WE ARE NOT DEFEATED.

NO NDAA
END THE WARS
END THE FED
END THE BAIL-OUTS
NO ASSASSINATION OF AMERICAN CITIZENS

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LIE!

Ron Paul votes will not be counted. The ballots will be counted. No one, not us, not Ron Paul's campaign, not the Secretary of State, will have the slightest damn clue how many votes Ron Paul got.

So, again, for about the third post in a row, you are lying.

No, Johnson's votes will actually show up as votes for him. So, not even close to the same thing.

Sorry to be so strong - I'm just getting sick of this misleading propaganda. I thought we were a movement about truth.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

You are desperate, aren't you? (((Laughs!!!)))

You are desperate, aren't you? (((Laughs!!!)))

It takes YEARS to launch a World-Class Presidential Campaign, as WE- THE RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION HAVE DONE TWICE - Over 5 Years.

Sure:

With only weeks to go a guy almost no-one even know exists - except people here at The Daily Paul - will make him President Of The United States.

Whatever you are smoking: I wouldn't want to try it. DELUSION.

RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION!

Wisdom Strategies

Wow - psychologists call that "projection"

No, I am not desperate at all. And no, I am not under any illusion that Johnson will win the presidency. I am actually extremely calm about the whole matter. I find it disheartening that the liberty movement cannot get together for a show of force, no matter how futile. Just because I speak truth about a subject doesn't mean I am desperate for anything but the truth.

But, by your tone, I am assuming you think Ron Paul can win the election with uncounted write-in votes. Nice reasoning.

You cannot prove that the "write-in" votes will be counted, or actually tabulated to be precise, under Ron Paul's name.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Gary Johnson does not represent the Liberty Movement

get that through your head. He is a fraud and his supporters are trolls, as shown by their shameless hijack of this site. Freedom of association is a constitutional value. We are trying to associate under the name and banner of the man we follow, and you will not allow it, but attempt to force your candidate on us. You know nothing of liberty or the Constitution and neither does Gary Johnson.

Get your own damned site.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

You have issues and you are wrong.

I never said he did. I am Ron Paul through and through, and how dare you accuse me of being otherwise! I have been active and on this site more than twice as long as you, and obviously did more 4 years ago than you did. You were probably a McInsane/Retarded Lady voter in 2008! So sad.....

I will always proudly associate with the Daily PAUL. I have never campaigned here for Johnson, started a Johnson thread, nor have I joined the Libertarian Party. Your obtuse assumptions show one of two things: You are either devoid of logic and reason and have mental issues. Or, and I suspect the latter, you are GOP plant.

I know more about the Constitution and the American Enlightenment than you can fit in your tiny brain. I am not forcing anything (another unprovable assumption). All I did was point out that you were lying, that in truth in almost all cases, in all states, write-in votes for Ron Paul will not be tabulated and counted.

You say I am wrong, fine. I look forward to your detailed report of the exact number of votes in all 50 states November 6th.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Wow you Johnsonistas are really crazy, Yes they will be counted.

Quote:

"according to a PA Bureau of Elections official, historically counties in PA have counted whatever is written in. If voters write in the actual candidate’s name, that write-in vote has been counted for the candidate."

http://www.anamericanvision.com/info/state_certifications_re...

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Umm.....

Here is the quote from your source:
"The official election code refers to the fact that a voter who wishes to cast a vote for a write-in Presidential candidate must write-in the names of his/her 21 Presidential Electors on the ballot. However, according to a PA Bureau of Elections official, historically counties in PA have counted whatever is written in. If voters write in the actual candidate’s name, that write-in vote has been counted for the candidate.
The official said that the distinction between “presidential elector” and “presidential candidate” is allowed to be blurred. However, he said that he always advises write-in candidates to contact the various counties in PA to assure that all the votes written in for them are counted as such – for example, without that communication, some counties might not watch out for various spellings of a candidates name, and end up counting them as separate votes, etc. The official admitted that Pennsylvania’s system is archaic and not good.
He said that there should be some kind of pre-certification of write-in candidates like those that operate in other states, so that the county and state elections boards are all on the same page as to who the write-in candidates are, who to count votes for, etc. He said that if PA were to actually hold to the code which states that the 21 electors must be written in, and not the candidates name, it would be challenged, and the challenger would easily win the case."

Yup....really cut and dried. Who's crazy?

First of all, unless the Ron Paul campaign has done any kind of precertification, your point is not supported here. Secondly, let's ignore the whole "vote for 21 electors" nonsense, the practice is based on counties, and therefore more useable for local and state elections.

No - you have proven nothing. Very few, if any, Ron Paul votes will be counted. And no, I am not Johnsonista. I may vote for him, I may not. I am only interested in truth, and not misleading friends. I don't think anyone has any illusion that Johnson will win the presidency. Many of your fellow liberty-lovers do want their votes to count, however.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Is This The Most Complicated Electoral System On Earth?

Dear God! The United States must have The Most Complicated Electoral System On Earth!

I have supported Ron Paul for 5 years, and this year I learned more than ever about how this process works and:

Oh, wow. You have to study so much. Even at the very last minute - after 5 years!

I have never seen anything this crazy in my entire life.
Sifting through so much information, thinking so much.

I am so sick and tired of this. I cannot wait until this is over.

I want to live a normal life. I think that is what all of us would like.

Only weeks away, after 5 years, and we are still not very clear on so many details! This is unbelievable. Really unbelievable.

Wisdom Strategies

Lies

No you haven't

Here's the problem...

...officially, PA is supposed to count all write-in votes, and PA does not require the write-in candidate to register. So we're good, right? Not quite. In practice, write-in votes in many counties in PA simply do not get counted. They just ignore the law, and that's that. In others, they'll count them, but only report them in aggregate as "other" or "write-in." If you're in PA like me, your Ron Paul vote may or may not be counted, but I can assure you of this: a sizable portion of the votes in PA will definitely not be counted, and of those that are counted, few if any of them will be reported as belonging to Ron Paul, most will get reported as "other" or "write-in."

This is in contrast to a vote for Gary Johnson, who, being on the ballot, will have all of his votes counted and reported fully.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

A Daily Pauler called his PA county commissioner and

received the assurance that in his county, the write in votes willbe tallied and counted. Since it is state law and the ballots are a permanent record then even after the fact a count could be forced in court and the plaintiff would win. Therefore it is as simple as anyone undecided calling his county and asking the same question. We can make one phone call for a man who has done so much for us.

Pennsylvania, you're up! California on deck!

Release the Sandy Hook video.