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Most of those objecting to Governor Johnson want us to vote Romney & Obama

Isn't that terribly ironic?

Of course, they're not going to admit it if they are here. Because here they are infiltrators attempting to minimize our influence in any way possible. Their aim is to either capture or neutralize the votes of Ron Paul supporters.

If they can't convince us to vote for Romney & Obama, plan B is to convince us to fracture our vote into insignificance by trying to get us to write-in candidates and vote for insignificant candidates which have failed to get on the ballot in most states.

The last thing the establishment wants is for all independents, libertarians, and Ron Paul republicans to unite behind a viable candidate like Governor Gary Johnson, and establish a viable third party.

The establishment's goal is to either scare us into voting for Romney & Obama, or fracture our vote into insignificance; divide and conquer!

Don't fall into their trap!



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You have not been paying attention

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com

End the wars

Bring the troops home

Audit the Fed

End the IRS

Veto big government

Balance the budget

that's nice, how about you

that's nice, how about you actually address my points?

How about you actually check it out for yourself?

Rather than listening to and spreading lies in the forums. Did you immediately support Ron Paul, or did you have to listen to him a bit? Nobody can convince you. You have to learn for yourself.

nothing i've stated is a lie.

nothing i've stated is a lie.
gary johnson on kony 2012.. http://youtu.be/f-1ktig7Pwg
gary johnson on guantanamo.. http://youtu.be/cRlGXuGHfrc
gary johnson on economics.. http://youtu.be/aTch7InkZjo
gary johnson on taxation.. http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Gary_Johnson_Tax_Reform.htm

maybe you just don't know your candidate as well as you think you do.
anyway, your turn... liar.

So, you are a perfect person?

You never said something wrong or changed your position? You are aware that Ron Paul has changed positions and had regrets, from the death penalty to not more closely monitoring his newsletters.

Your attacks amount to, "Oh don't vote for Johnson, because at one time he said _______, yeah, check out this sound bite!"

That is the same thing they tried to do to Ron Paul, "Don't vote for Ron Paul! Look at these newsletters!"

I bet you have not spent 10 minutes on Gary Johnson's website.

You are not looking for reasons to support Gary Johnson, you are looking for excuses not to!

these are not positions

these are not positions johnson had taken a long time ago. he has said these things as early as this year. the point is, if he was a libertarian, and followed the non-aggression axiom like any good libertarian, he would not have these ideas that conflict with libertarianism. to make things worse, i don't think he's even back-pedaled on these issues.

as for ron, he has changed his position on the death penalty, yes. however, it does not conflict with the non-aggression axiom. the death penalty would be justified in a free society. however, later on (a long time ago), ron came to the realization that the ability to decide on who should live and who should die is too serious a responsibility for the state to handle, because they have and do make mistakes.

and ron didn't write the newsletters, but gary johnson actually did say the things that i mentioned. so they're absolutely not the same thing.

Who would you like to see people support?

And why?

I would also like to hear you answer his question.

Some one with

Strong Libertarian Principles, Someone who understands the evils of the Central Banking System and knows Austrian economics, Someone who will not send troops into far away countries, because "He" feels it is the right thing to do, Its got to be constitutional!

That would be a good start!

That is Johnson

Duh.

i think everyone should just

i think everyone should just vote for whoever they want. i don't care either way, as the act of voting just gives legitimacy to the whole fraudulent system. but i'm still writing in ron.

what i don't appreciate is the manner in which ron paul supporters are being censored in this thread.

i'm not sure what question you're referring to that i didn't answer.. whether or not i've ever made a mistake or changed my position? of course. but at least i admit to them. gary johnson has not even done that, he's just going along as if everything is fine and dandy. i don't want someone like him misrepresenting my libertarian views on a national stage.

So you would like to see people vote for someone not running?

Or not vote at all?

That is either incredibly stupid, or with an ulterior motive.

i'm starting to think you're

i'm starting to think you're here secretly to ensure that gary johnson doesn't gain any followers. i mean, i still think johnson is inept, but i certainly wouldn't want to associate with a group that would engage in this kind of vile nonsense.

What is so stupid about it?

If less than 50% of the country does not vote, then that vote in the eyes of many, and all over the world, loses its legitimacy!
People would realise that something is rotten in the Republic of the US, and perhaps, just maybe, do some research that may bring them to Ron Paul and his philosiphies of Freedom and Peace between all, and the central banking system trying to crush anything "Good".

Instead of downvoting

Give me a reply, You cowards!

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they're astroturfing DP. if they actually engaged in debate, it would expose their real numbers.

More than likely

Its Quite Sad if you ask me.

None are more hopelessy enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

are you slow?

i said you should vote for whoever you want.

...as long as it is not Gary Johnson!

You're a fake.

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where did i say "as long as it's not gary johnson"? i just gave my reasons for why I won't be voting for him. do you need my approval so that you can go out and pull the lever for gary "let's get kony!" johnson?

Ron Paul...

because he believes in small, constitutional government, a sane foreign policy, and libertarian principles; and also because he's not a liar and a fraud like Gitmo Gary.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Total and complete ownage.

Bet this comment will be at least -15 in the next two minutes. Gitmo Gary humpers are pathetic cowards.

I don't play, I commission the league.

ok.. i see your downvotes.

ok.. i see your downvotes. how about you try and come up with a reply now?

the issue really isn't even

the issue really isn't even about uganda.. i mean what kind of sheep do you have to be to buy into that kony 2012 propaganda? i don't think there was a single person here on DP that wasn't skeptical about that globalist neoliberal trash video while it was going viral.

KONY was a Scam from the Get go!

And I loved the fact that the morons who came up with the Grand scheme, (Not the guys who made the video) got slapped down so quickly because of intellegent people across the world, That it turned a disinfo campaign into something that may have actually opened a few eyes.

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ya think?

so, most of the folks here at the DP "want" to vote for romney or obombya?

"most" of the folks here, who have worked, DONATED, super-brochured, met up, phone called, caravanned, precinct captained, they all want to vote for rombama?

you haven't a clue, do you?

maybe we just don't LIKE gitmo gary

maybe? ya think?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

actually, there's been more

actually, there's been more anti-write-in threads than anti-johnson threads.
and every time anyone makes a criticism of johnson, the johnsonites never address the criticisms, instead they just start a downvote campaign... just scroll through this thread.

Damn Right! And they jump on

Damn Right! And they jump on every Johnson thread and spew their crap!

I have a strategy that can help Johnson actually win. Check my thread out:

http://www.dailypaul.com/258238/here-is-how-gary-johnson-can...

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get your ASS OFF my RP website...

neocon!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

It's not yours, that guy is

It's not yours, that guy is actually intelligent and voting for Johnson.

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you are a LIAR...

he has NOT and will NOT endorse a cfr scumbag like gitmo gary...

you are a GD liar!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.