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The Corrupt Establishment Fears People Uniting Behind Governor Johnson

And this has been clearly evident at Daily Paul over the past several months, where establishment infiltrators have materialized to aggressively attack Governor Johnson, distort and exaggerate his positions, and do everything they can to dissuade people from voting for him; attempting to divide our votes and support among write-ins and any other candidate except Governor Johnson.

The reason is, because if Governor Johnson gets 5% of the vote then not only will it buck the two party system, but it will permanently establish an alternative party and change the duopoly illusion programmed in most people's minds.

As a former governor, Gary Johnson is one of the most credible candidates the Libertarian Party, or any third party, has ever had, and this frightens the establishment.

Sometimes the obvious merely needs to be stated, and restated, before it sinks in.

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5% Vote For Libertarian Party

Will shake the rafters.

"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard


The last thing in the world that the elite are afraid of is Gary Johnson.

"Uniting behind Governor Johnson"

Or in other words, breaking their duopoly control of elections by creating a viable alternative party to challenge them.

They are afraid of that.


The establishment and the corrupted on this very website want us to vote Johnson because he is controlled opposition.

Writing in Ron Paul. Not going to vote for the lesser of 3 evils.

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A common sense take on politics and current events.


Can you

post up your evidence to support that view.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.


Too much clowded emotion, and too many willing to play on that emotion.
Consensus can only come about when those within the RP revolution, come to the understanding that RON Paul spread his message for one purpose:
To give us the insight, the knowledge, and the tools to take up the challenge. The challenge to restore the constitution.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.


I keep seeing it and thinking it's about uniting and how that scares TPTB.

Then I go read it (again) and all the comments are arguing over how futile it is to do this or to do that.

PEOPLE! This is the problem. Let's all try to agree on a few basics.

Voting is fraudulent. We know it and the masses suspect it. We have three choices. Go back to sleep; raise awareness (futile); or fix it. The only way to fix it this cycle is with a very fast and viral campaign that's very effective. This is not only possible but very doable, given the level of mass distrust, but we're quickly losing time.

Sending a message is less than futile. This message will be dismissed when it could help us and used against us when it won't. Ross Perot is the poster child of sending a message and that only gets told when they want to show the masses that they should support the big two.

Winning the election full on and outright is the only goal that will create a real and lasting change. With a non-establishment person in the white house, regardless of who it is, the power structure will be challenged. The better the person, the faster the changes. Either way, policy isn't the major concern here, it's power.

The people hold the ultimate power but can't use it. When division rears it's ugly head, our power is eliminated. Not reduced, it's completely wiped out. Division opens the door to more division and distraction. Nonsense issues get promoted as important and off go another 20% of our group. It doesn't take long before we're all over the map and getting nowhere.

Uniting the people is the only single, paramount and ultimate goal we should have. The title of this post is correct but it would be more correct without the "behind Governor Johnson" at the end. Their only goal is to keep us from getting united for if we were, they could no longer lie about who won the election.

Think of it this way, if there are 100M voters and 60M registered on some pledge for Gary website, what would be the consequences of him not winning. On top of that, each state, county and precinct could show the same level of exposure.

There's exactly zero chance of getting people that united, you say? Well, instead of looking for Mr. Perfect on every issue (which even RP is NOT perfect on everything) we need to prioritize importance. For example:

What's the very top single issue we all want that we can most easily get the sheeple behind? Can we say it's auditing the fed or would it be ending the wars or maybe campaign corruption? Whatever it is, if the people voted it number one and then the people voted on the best solution and the people rallied behind one person who would make said change and the people voted on that one issue alone, I think we would have a good shot.

We here on DP have literally hundreds of people talented enough and many more with resources enough to make something that accomplished this task. We also have the numbers enough to make something go viral, as long as it was truly interesting enough to grab attention. We just have to make it happen.

But most of all, we have to admit and agree that we're hurting both the Revolution movement and Gary Johnston's campaign by splitting our votes among those two. Let's get behind closed doors where the media isn't watching, let's debate it out with the understanding that OUR winner is going to receive all the support of all of us. With that united front, we'll attract so many more who are still on the fence.

Or we could all go back to Dancing With The Stars.

Can someone with some balls

please tell me why this got downvoted! All I stated is that we have to unite. ...unless they're all from trolls or defeatists?

There's a bunch of infiltrators here

Trying to get us to do anything except for unite against the establishment and make a difference.

It's the old divide and conquer tactic.

I was wondering the same thing actually

But then you don't have to read far back in this thread to see the handfull of Johnson bashers jumping all over every post.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

2nd goal

"Winning the election full on and outright is the only goal that will create a real and lasting change."

That is unfortunately not going to happen this year, as Obamney will win. We can achieve getting a 3rd party to qualify for FEC funds. Just 5% of the vote to GJ will do it. This will bring visibility and another candidate to the attention of the public in 2016. This goal is worthwhile, and I hope we can pull together so we can achieve this.

I just tried I Side With

Gary Johnson: 97%
Jill Stein: 28%
Barack Obama: 11%

It said I agree with Rmoney 41%, but I think that's just because Mittens is a lying freak whose actual policies mirror Obama's policies, with only the empty rhetoric being different.

Clearly, only Johnson is QUALIFIED to be president. But I'll be writing in Ron Paul!

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

Just curious why you won't

Just curious why you won't follow through on the results of your own post?

Can ANY of you

explain how you are going to get johnson elected (even supposing he were legit) with a rigged system.
Let's hear the plan.
I want to know.

Your point is well taken

or should be. The integrity of the voting system has been seriously
compromised. And note that exit polling - (which, if it's actually
done right is one way of detecting fraud) is being cancelled this
year for 19 states:


But the bad guys' ability to manipulate is not absolute and the more they
have to cheat, the more detectable it becomes. Plus there are areas of the
country which still count votes by hand and have a real paper trail. My state,
as nearly as I can tell, falls somewhere in between. It's not pure (evil) black box
voting, but may be subject to some manipulation.

A victory - for all of us, not just for Johnson - is to get a high enough vote total
for him that the Libertarian party can get federal funds in the next election cycle
and that minor parties cannot be excluded and marginalized.

So I'm voting for GJ, even though I have some serious disagreements with
a few of his policies.

BTW - what's *your* plan for dealing with the vote fraud/manipulation??

Hand counted votes

will be lost, dumped or precincts cancelled. Or they will dump in some fraudulent votes and then claim that those precincts were corrupted. Or they will simply cancel the voting at any precinct that isn't going for Rombama or the obammunist.

Sidelining johnson will be child's play for them compared to what they did to Dr Paul.
I am withdrawing my consent to be ruled by these crooks. Their corrupt, fake elections are just the tip of the iceberg of the evil these criminals are doing justified as being "representative government".
Time to move on, stop playing by their rules because they follow NO rules.
I am amazed at people here so willing to repeat the debacle, so willing to be dupes all over again for these gangs and with NO plan for countering the corruption.

Your Secretary of State will

Your Secretary of State will have rules for certifying the vote. Before you trash the system too much, get involved and see how it works. Then you can have solid talking points for how to change the system.

You will have to give a couple days of time after the voting stations close. Can you spare the time to learn the existing system? Then change it.

LOL! BEEN there

DONE that. I am painfully aware of how the "system" works. Obviously, YOU don't know.

Yep. Johnsonites are

Yep. Johnsonites are willfully ignorant of the fact that if the establishment discarded votes for Ron Paul, then they will discard votes for Johnson.

It really is that simple, but it's beyond them.

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A voice of sanity on this irrational thread.

NOT ONE of you brainiacs

slobbering over voting for Johnson can explain to me how your votes are going to actually be counted and not lost, flipped, ignored, etc. like Dr Pauls were??

WHY the crickets?? You guys know it all, lets hear it.

Where I live, I am going to

Where I live, I am going to help certify the vote.

You run right along

and do that. Keep spinning your wheels, keep legitimizing statist tyranny by VOTING for it. LOL!

And, no, a cowardly

"downvote" is not a rebuttal or explanation.


I rest my case, sheep. Go vote like good little dogs. See where it gets you.

Why bother

You've got nothing to say worth listening to, your just here to be divisive.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.


Mustn't be divisive of the dividing johnsonites at the Daily PAUL.

That's a hilarious thing to

That's a hilarious thing to say, considering the content of the original post.

Simple Facts and Plain Arguments
A common sense take on politics and current events.


You just

do not want to face the truth. Here is my prediction. johnson will get a few precentage points, no threat to the status quo. He won't even come close to carrying a state.
THEY OWN the process and manipulate it openly and brazenly.
So what is the point?

I think we are all aware

of what 'they' do, the question is, what are you going to do about it..
I think everyone has clearly understood your message, so there's no point in going on about it. You won't listen to reason, and you can't debate your choice, so probably best to let those that want to fight against what you describe as 'they', get on with it.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.