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The Corrupt Establishment Fears People Uniting Behind Governor Johnson

And this has been clearly evident at Daily Paul over the past several months, where establishment infiltrators have materialized to aggressively attack Governor Johnson, distort and exaggerate his positions, and do everything they can to dissuade people from voting for him; attempting to divide our votes and support among write-ins and any other candidate except Governor Johnson.

The reason is, because if Governor Johnson gets 5% of the vote then not only will it buck the two party system, but it will permanently establish an alternative party and change the duopoly illusion programmed in most people's minds.

As a former governor, Gary Johnson is one of the most credible candidates the Libertarian Party, or any third party, has ever had, and this frightens the establishment.

Sometimes the obvious merely needs to be stated, and restated, before it sinks in.

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Martin Luther King

He didn't run for office.

SteveMT's picture

Ever heard of comparing apples and oranges?

You just did.

...is not Ron Paul

Everyone has their path. Martin Luther King was pretty unique.

Following your bad advice Ron Paul never would have been elected

Following your bad advice, criminals would be elected more easily, commit more crimes, and stay in power longer. Voting is not immoral, voting for immoral people is immoral, and so is sitting it out when you know an immoral person is trying to take power.

The good advice is to not only vote, but educate and get more people to vote, and also take charge yourself and do what you can or run yourself.

The good advice comes from Ron Paul.

Your username should be AllPunk.

You DO realize

that there is no such thing as "We, the people", that mythical collective who all believe and act the same? Not even at the time of the original writing of it was there such a thing.
It is just as false as the "social contract".

Guess you didn't

realize that, collectivist.

Ron Paul is an ESTABLISHED REPUBLICAN

He chose the GOP we didn't. You abndoned him, and with voters like you, who reject the GOP as it is, instead of working to make it a tool to restore the Republic,, Ron Paul would have never been elected for congress, been a candidate IN THE GOP, gotten delegates or people who joined the GOP to materialize Ron Paul's message.

You have no clue what you're talking about.

First of all, you don't know me. I haven't abandoned Ron Paul at all! And, I'm an elected Republican. However, I truly am a small "r" republican, unfortunately registered in a despicable, sick and twisted political party which wrongly calls itself the 'Republican' Party or GOP. I am working within this corrupt party as Ron Paul suggests, however, guess what?

I still voted for Governor Johnson!

It seems you have no clue about anything. Don't you realize that the Libertarian Party welcomes votes from all parties? Don't you realize you don't have to quit the despicable Republican Party to vote for Governor Johnson?

Finally, Ron Paul himself was disgusted with the Republican Party and quit to be a Libertarian. The only reason he went back to the Republican Party is because they're part of a duopoly stranglehold on our government and elections. And, the only way we are going to change that is by promoting third parties when we can. Voting for Governor Johnson is a perfect opportunity!

It would be a perfect opportunity

if it were someone better than Gary Johnson.

Patriot Cell #345,168
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

The reality is,

it is GJ, and why does it have to be someone "better"?.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

Maybe for the same reason

Maybe for the same reason some people do not like Rand Paul...because he is not a purist like his father?

OOooooo

Can't have a "PURIST" like Ron Paul. Gotta have a smarmy, compromising, backstabbing, sneaky pol.
You remind me of these women who take up with a bum known to treat women badly who then whines about being treated badly.

I don't think I stated myself

I don't think I stated myself well. I was answering the question above me. I was not slamming anyone. Why are you slamming me? I don't understand what you heard in my reply to say what you did.

I see your point

Sorry bear, didn't mean to come across in a negative way.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

Hi, no problem, I should have

Hi, no problem, I should have stated myself better. I think someone else misunderstood me as well. That is the thing about no facial expressions or voice inflections :) Just typing on a page without all thoughts conveyed.

A man like Ron Paul

Comes along once in a 100 years, you'll never see another in your lifetime.
Rand Paul endorsed mitt romney, unfortunately, and supports his campaign.
I fail to see the logic, the nation is on the brink of economic catastrophy, war is imminent with Iran, the constitution is almost invalidated, and one of the best options to fight the tyranny that caused this is not acceptable because, Gary Johnson isn't Ron Paul??.
You can't be serious, surely.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

I was answering your

I was answering your question, I was not saying that is where I stand. You present a very well reasoned and rationale viewpoint. One I will definitely consider. I will never see another in my lifetime...please, do not say it is so...Cannot Liberty find another? Is Justin Amash any good?

I hope I'm wrong

For your sake, everyone's sake.
I think history will record Ron Paul very favorabily, and rank him highly, he's a true man of principle and dedication, in a profession full of greed and corruption.
Maybe if Monsanto stopped meddling with the food crops, and clonned RP, the world would be a better place -:)
Can't comment on Justin Amash, sorry.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

New chant...."Clone Ron Paul"

New chant...."Clone Ron Paul" "Clone Ron Paul".... :)

Because it IS Gary Johnson.

That's enough right there.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

So why

Do you denigrate GJ and you can't give a reason?

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

Because:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3041948

http://notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&ac...

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/thedcs-jamie-weinstein-gar...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTch7InkZjo

Those are just some of the red flags..

Your argument: Well he's not so and so BUT....

Not good enough.

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

You fail to see the point

To start with 5% p.a. is less than the actual inflation rate of over 8%.
But that's not the issue.
The point is GJ in all probability won't be elected, he's excluded from the debates and isn't getting MSM exposure. The real winner is the Liberty platform, the loud and clear message to the status quo, the GOP and the MSM. The party status, federal funding and the strong showing in the next election cycle. But most of all, a wedge between the two party monopoly.
But then you know all this, you are just being pragmatic.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

I fail to see the point? lol

No, not me... YOU ALL fail to see the point. All of you who are voting party fail to respect all of the work that Dr.Paul and the rest of us have put forth and why. You think you're helping Liberty but you're spitting in the very face of it.

Oh right.. Let's not worry about how putting forth a candidate that doesn't reflect what Liberty is about.. Let's worry about getting some Federal money which YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TOO and advancing a party which is the same moronic argument every other party puts forth.. You just think because you tell yourself it's for a good cause, that it makes it better.

It does not. You are still voting for the L. And after all we've gone through, it's fucking pathetic and sickening to see a group who profess a message of Liberty, ignore that message through their choices. If anything you're ruining the Libertarian party, not helping it. In the Exact ways having Romney profess he's Republican while going completely against what a Republican truly stands for.

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Well in reality, Ron Paul

Well in reality, Ron Paul chose the 'R' party as the best means of getting his message out to the American public. The Liberty party simply wasn't an option to do that.
Things have changed, the 'R' party ostracised Ron Paul and his supporters, and it will eventually ostracise you too. You just don't see it now.
The Liberty party is now a viable option as a means of supporting and futhering that message of RP, and putting his philosophy into action, now and in the future.
As an aside, Ron Paul never once said..take over the republican party.
The 'R' party is simply in rapid decline, and should sufficient support be given to the GJ campaign, it will end up being the third party option, with little or no credibility. Why would you want to be a part of that.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

Actually, Ron Paul has said many times we need to take over GOP

That is his main suggestion for taking action.

Can you post one time he said

"We should take over the GOP".

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

Did you listen to his Tampa

Did you listen to his Tampa speech?

Yes I've listened to all

His speeches.
I'll stand corrected if you can post up one time he said..
"We should take over the GOP".

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

Not exact words