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The Corrupt Establishment Fears People Uniting Behind Governor Johnson

And this has been clearly evident at Daily Paul over the past several months, where establishment infiltrators have materialized to aggressively attack Governor Johnson, distort and exaggerate his positions, and do everything they can to dissuade people from voting for him; attempting to divide our votes and support among write-ins and any other candidate except Governor Johnson.

The reason is, because if Governor Johnson gets 5% of the vote then not only will it buck the two party system, but it will permanently establish an alternative party and change the duopoly illusion programmed in most people's minds.

As a former governor, Gary Johnson is one of the most credible candidates the Libertarian Party, or any third party, has ever had, and this frightens the establishment.

Sometimes the obvious merely needs to be stated, and restated, before it sinks in.

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We would do well to focus our votes on Johnson, and to gather as many as possible to push votes for johnson.

Start spreading the word, there are many, many people who say they would vote for Paul if he was running (some seems to think he dropped out, and do not understand the corruption that kept him out of running), so encourage those who do like Paul to vote Johnson, just say he's like minded with Paul, and that the news channels are conscripted to keep Johnson out of view and lessen his chances the same as they did to Paul, because they run by corporations and Romney and Obama are just corporate puppets, that have the corporations and bankers interests in mind, not the People's.

If I have a chance to lessen

If I have a chance to lessen the two party system's stranglehold over Washington, I'm all for it. Casting a vote for a third party presidential candidate does just that. There is nothing inherently wrong with writing in a candidate, but if you want to see change in politics but are still writing in Ron Paul, you are mistaken.

Have you studied 3rd Party candidacies?

Which one do you remember most?

Which one sent the strongest messages?

Free includes debt-free!

no they don't ever heard of

no they don't
ever heard of vote flipping

Exactly

This campaign, to get everyone to vote GJ is more about bolstering the numbers and flipping votes to obamany in my opinion.

GJ, I can not trust.

I ask questions, instead of them getting answeres, or discussion, I get voted down, Pathetic!

I am not a Johnny come lately, I do not work for anyone! Im in Australia for god sakes, and in MY OPINION, I dont not think Gary Johnson is trustworthy

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First, just because someone does not support Gary Johnson, that does not make them an "establishment newbie" trying to "distort and exaggerate his positions".

Second, the establishment certainly does not "fear" Gary Johnson. It would not matter if he got 99% of the vote (he wouldn't, but hypothetically). Obama or Romney would still win. The whole system is rigged. Don't you remember the election fraud committed in the primaries?

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

Or the Gore-Bush race was won by a chad & SCOTUS

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Free includes debt-free!

The establishment does fear Gary Johnson

That's why they won't let him debate, that's why they're doing all they can to keep him off ballots, that's why they marginalize him, and that's why they're here attacking him.

I never said that, "just because someone does not support Gary Johnson," they are an establishment newbie. That's a distortion of what I wrote.

So, you're zero for two, newbie.

Ha

By that same logic they also fear Jill Stein (a socialist) and the Communist Party candidate because they won't let them debate and marginalize them.

You certainly implied that most non-Johnson supporters are establishment newbies.

Also, I am not exactly a newbie. I have been at the DP for over a year, even though I have had an account for nine months. And even if I am, who cares? Just because you have been here for a long time doesn't make you any better than people who haven't. The superior attitude of some users who have been here for 4 or 5 years is ridiculous.

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

Is Jill Stein on the ballot in almost every state?

- No.

- Never implied anything of the sort.

- Never said I was better than you because I've been here longer.

Zero for five!

You don't seem to know what you're talking about, or maybe you do and your only point is to distort. I'm not surprised you showed up in this thread to do so.

Actually, she is

- http://www.jillstein.org/ballot

- Whether you intended to imply it or not, it sounds like you are saying that.

- I didn't say you said you're better than me because you have been here longer. But your condescending use of the word "newbie" shows that you apparently have a low opinion of users who haven't had an account here as long.

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

Lie

She's missing 13 states. Just as you are deceptive, so is her "ballot access," which includes "write-ins." How is it you are wrongly defending Jill Stein, anyway?

- Your opinion, which I can tell you is wrong, it's not what I meant, and is an obvious distortion.

- Again, your opinion, which I can tell you is wrong, not my intent.

Listen blockhead, I agree

Listen blockhead,
I agree with the guy below me. Its not johnson that is causing these "establishment" attacks on DP. It is posts like this one that call people who do not want to vote for Johnson "establishment newbies" or go around down voting the Ron Paul write in threads for no damn reason. Let people who want to vote for Johnson do it, and let the write in campaign do their thing. Stop being a Foxdick (this goes to everyone) about it and let people make their own choices.

Southern Agrarian

You sound like an establishment newbie!

Yeah that is much worse than, "blockhead," and "foxdick," NOT!

1. newbie - check
2. enters topic calling names - check
3. against Gary Johnson - check
4. entire comment an attack and divisive - check

Nobody is forcing you to read the topic and nobody is forcing you to vote for Johnson.

Your article was name

Your article was name calling, you hate ron paul, no point made in the entire post. See how stupid these assumptions are?

Nobody is forcing you to spam the Dailypaul with these worthless threads. We GET IT! Some of you are voting for Johnson. Stop with this bullshit. If you aren't going to post an article or something informative then don't make a post. We don't need anymore of these "(let me be the first to say/ It needs to be said/ here on the DP )some of you hate the liberty movement and are obviously romney voters because you wont vote for johnson".

Enough of it.

Southern Agrarian

We dont need Ulfilas telling us what we can post

So bug off!

Fine, keep shitting up the DP

Fine, keep shitting up the DP with more threads telling Paul voters to bow before Johnson or get kicked from the Liberty movement or accuse them of being neo-cons or trolls or..

Southern Agrarian

What the hell is a foxdick?

What the hell is a foxdick?

That should be

clear enough explanation.. Ya know.. Foxes have dicks, right? :)

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There is nothing wrong with an individual

writing in a candidate, but when one ridicules, derides, and mocks others who choose not to, it kind of makes one wonder. Look at all the collectivism in some posts encouraging write-ins (encouraging write-ins is fine, but collectivizing all others who choose not is shameful.) Gj supporters have been called, "All gay," "Liberal's, "Trolls," etc, ect. That is not a good way to get others to vote the way they are encouraging.lol

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

The opposite is true as well

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Yes

From what I have seen, many Johnson voters here on the DP also "ridicule, deride, and mock others" who choose to not to support Johnson and make assumptions about them such as claiming they are "Romney trolls", "sheep", and "establishment newbies".

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

That is what I am seeing,

Which is WHY i do not trust this at the moment, It seems too forced to me!

GJ people will not even answer questions about Gary Johnson if they think they are getting attacked.

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true about collectivism

but you see,RP's supporters here have been called
the same things as did GJ,by his own supporters
now we get called romneybots and RR,for not backing
gary johnson
now when one draws attention to gj in a negative light
they get the gj backlash of name calling,and it all childish

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

It is childish,

and goes against a major view Ron himself was trying to teach people. I don't care who started it, what is important is who engages in it. It makes me wonder if those who use such shameful collectivism to further their point should be taken seriously at all.

I see the collectivism on both sides, but the past month a lot of write-in posts (mainly the comment section) have been very collectivist and it comes from 3 individuals. It is quite sad, on both sides.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

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what is evident

is there were just as many irritated
Ron Paul supporters here on the DP
what with all the GJ posts before
RP had even decided to stop campaigning
guess we don;t count?

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I was one of them, until I realized what was going on.

Until I woke up! And, took a seriously look at Governor Johnson.

Look at my history, you're not going to find any Gary Johnson posts going very far back, probably not even a month.

It's hard to let go of Ron Paul 2012, but it's over.

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