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Rand Paul Talks Medicare / Social Security on Fox News - 10-11-12




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Even Ron Paul says you can't do what you are proposing...

Because people are already depending on these programs and it would be cruel and immoral to just cut them off. They will have to be fazed out over a lengthy period of time, with opt-out options built in for younger people, etc. But it is time to cut Rand some slack, for heaven 's sake. He's feeding the babies pablum and great thanks to Cavuto for continuing to contrast the sensible with the absurd, by interviewing him.

I am not saying you are not correct, just that it is time for prudent, wise actions and deeds so that the progress Ron Paul and his movement (us) has made is not lost but rather slowly but surely advanced. This I see Rand doing, with great care, which obviously infuriates some. But sometimes patience and watching for the opportunities to influence in a gentle but brilliant way is a far wiser course than standing on a principle that has been lost and will take a great deal of work to reestablish. Watch for the subtleties and enjoy the show! Ron and Rand make a great team!

Sweet Liberty

Pure FAKE-Liberty co-opter gibberish.

Pardon the bluntness, but cowardice and dishonesty really make my skin crawl.

1. Having my earning STOLEN to feather the beds of government-dependents, who are taking (as sellout Rand echoed) WELL BEYOND what they "gave" is not compassionate. It is theft. It is evil. It begets MORE evil.

2. I clearly stated America should take care of the boomer crackhead generation, who "need" their "free" scooters, "free" type-two "diabetes" equipment, cholesterol meds, blood pressure meds, gastric-bypass, metal ankles, metal knees and metal hips to support the results of 50 years of McDonalds and TV. It would be "cruel and immoral" to suggest that they CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR TO BECOME LESS OF A BURDEN on an ILLEGAL system of generational theft.

3. I am NOT "Ron Paul" movement. I am a Constitutional Libertarian (LAW AND LIBERTY).

4. Your COWARDLY "fazed out over a lengthy period of time" reminds me of a drug addict saying "I'll kick tomorrow." It's a FALSE goal designed to FOREVER PRESERVE the supply of your addiction. It also CONTRADICTS any excuses to NOT STRENGTHEN third parties like the Constitution Party.

5. Now IS NOT... IS NOT the time for "patience." We HAD "patience" in the 80's, 90's, 00's, 2010... NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6. Rand Paul is NOT Ron Paul. They are NOT "partners." They are NOT teammates. This is a LIE that Liberty Movement co-opters are using to bridge the Liberty Movement to the ROTTEN-TO-THE-CORE republican party. It's the same tactic the Tea Party co-opter successfully pulled off with FAKE-TEA Bachmann, FAKE-TEA Palin, FAKE-TEA West, FAKE-TEA Cain, FAKE-TEA Perry, FAKE-TEA Beck, etc, etc. - they ALSO TOLD ME to "be patient" as they extended the "Patriot" Act, nation-building, MORE amnesty, MORE spending, debt-ceiling hikes, CR, CR, CR, CR, CR, NDAA.

7. F the R's!

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

Hey

While you are crying about all the theft and cutting things off cold turkey, please work out how you are going to return that which was stolen from everyone that works and has paid for decades, but don't yet collect.
Kindly get back to me when you have worked that detail out.
In case you missed it, it is also immoral to shut things down robbing millions of people of what they have faithfully paid into this ponzi scheme.

Exactly how the Establishment debates.

It's actually Biblical. You INVERT what is right... to be that which is wrong. STOPPING THEFT... becomes the theft itself.

I believe I addressed that twice. I've had tens of thousands STOLEN (I have NEVER, EVER "paid into" it). The THIEVES who stole it MUST return the sum TO THE PENNY, with interest. Then resign. Pretty simple.

But... I shall take the argument FURTHER and be MORE AGGRESSIVE...
I DON'T GIVE A DAMN about what anybody "faithfully paid into." THEY WERE LIED TO!!!!!! NOT MY PROBLEM!!! HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME!!!!!! But you submit the suggestion that STEALING MY EARNINGS... to replace ANOTHER'S STOLEN EARNINGS... will properly remedy the situation.

See the flawed (dishonest) logic?

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

You said:

But you submit the suggestion that STEALING MY EARNINGS... to replace ANOTHER'S STOLEN EARNINGS...

I said no such thing and caps won't make it so...

I said:

While you are crying about all the theft and cutting things off cold turkey, please work out how you are going to return that which was stolen from everyone that works and has paid for decades, but don't yet collect.

I personally submit Ron Paul's idea would work, let those who want opt out. Let those who dont stay in it...

Hear, hear! BW!

"We've got one that can see!"

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