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Libertarian polls 7% in Michigan U.S. Senate race, clearing hurdle to debate participation

Original Gravis Poll URL:
http://gravismarketing.blogspot.com/2012/10/michigan-senate-...
Scotty Boman for US Senate Webpage:
http://scottyboman.org

Detroit, MI – If the election for US Senate were held today, Libertarian nominee, Scotty Boman, would get 7% of Michigan’s vote according to a state-wide scientific poll. The poll of nine hundred and seventy likely Michigan voters was conducted on October 5th and 6th by Gravis Marketing -- a national, non-partisan research firm based in Florida.

It is the first general election poll of likely voters to include more than just the two, major party candidates as possible choices. With the Libertarian included as a third option, Democrat Stabenow polled 48.0% to Republican Hoekstra’s 39.3% with Boman favored by 7.0%. The remaining 5.7% were undecided or preferred another candidate.

In the same survey the Libertarian candidate was also offered as the alternative in two-candidate contests with each of the major party nominees. In those circumstances, Stabenow leads 49.0% to 29.6%, with 21.6% undecided. In a head-to-head matchup against Hoekstra the difference is even smaller with Boman garnering 22.5% to the Republican's 41.0% and 36.5% undecided.

In a previous poll, conducted by public policy polling between February 10th and 12th, Boman, who was then considering a possible bid for the Republican nomination, received 6 % among likely Michigan Republican primary voters.

While the recent poll still places Boman in a distant third place, the results are significant because a political party whose "top-of-ticket" candidate receives at least 5% of the vote is treated like a major party. After Libertarian Jon Coon got 4.2% of the US Senate vote in 1994, Michigan changed the definition of “Major Party” to mean only the top two vote-getters. This change was only cosmetic. In all other respects, the 5% threshold places the qualifying party in the top tier of political parties, including participation in primaries. The top of ticket for the 2012 election would have been Libertarian Presidential nominee, Governor Gary Johnson, but Republican Secretary of State, Ruth Johnson, refused to place him on the ballot based on her interpretation of an obscure, never before invoked or enforced, provision of state election law.

A second reason the Libertarian candidate's 7% showing is significant, is that polling at 5% or better is the one requirement for participation in the televised debates that has long eluded minor party candidates. In 2008, the host public television station WGVU specifically cited this criterion as cause for not including Boman in the Senatorial debate between Jack Hoogendyk and Carl Levin. Of course, this was a "Catch 22" for the Libertarian since no scientific state-wide, general election poll that year included him as a choice.

"Now that there is a credible, independent poll showing me above the threshold for participation [in the televised debate]," Boman mused, "it will be interesting to see what kind of creative excuse they will come up with to keep me out this time."

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just voted

Wrote in Johnson and voted for Scotty.

Brad

The problem is the scumbag Attorney General

Bill Schutte wouldn't allow GJ on the ballot because he was allegedly 3 minutes late to file. Shuttee is a Michigan Campaign for MiTT Romney Co-chair.

The game is rigged

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Schutte

I am no fan of Schutte, but it is time to make Lemonade out of Lemons. We can still write in Gary Johnson (it will count), and we can give Michigan a third de facto major party (sticking it to the Romniacs).

Rigged

Yup! It is a scam. The 3 minute thing is a diversion since the law was intended to apply to the general primary and the election of candidates. It was not intended to be applied to Presidential straw polls held for the purpose of assigning delegates, followed by the election of presidential electors.

I shred of good news is that you can Write-in: Gary Johnson - President, and James P. Gray - Vice President, and the SOS said those votes would be counted.

By the way, Ruth Johnson has as much to do with this as Schutte. We never expected much good from Schutte, but Ruth Johnson has really let us down.

Neo-Con

You don't get much more Neo-Con than Schutte.

As a Michigan voter I would have voted for Johnson but without that choice I will write in Dr. Paul.

Write-ins

I love Dr. Paul as much as anyone, but Michigan only counts write-in votes for registered write-in candidates. Gary Johnson is a registered write-in candidate, Ron Paul is not. They will count a Johnson vote. They won't count a Paul vote.

Stabenow and Hoekstra are an Oath Breakers

They failed to uphold their oath to protect and defend the Constitution. I Can't vote for them.

Scotty can't be any worse than that. I'll likely vote for Scotty.

I wish that the State legislatures selected the Senators as originally specified by the Constitution, but until then...

Free includes debt-free!

Oath keeper

That is why I am doing this. If I had reasonable confidence in either one of them upholding and defending the Constitution, I would back that person with the same zeal that I have devoted to my own campaign. It looks like I'm it. I don't mean that in a smug way, rather it is a tragic statement about the condition of our republic that the only candidates getting significant recognition and contributions are out-right statists. Perhaps this is because their support is based on the types of trade-offs in favors that only statists can provide. There are other minor party candidates, but they have much less active campaigns than my own.

I'm in Scott.

I would be glad to have you as a US Senator from Michigan!

I'll spread the word.

Free includes debt-free!

Welcome to 1854

The Libertarian Party is the new Republican Party.

So will Gary Johnson be the

So will Gary Johnson be the new Emperor Lincoln?

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OK, maybe the LP and original

OK, maybe the LP and original RP aren't quite that similar. Slightly flawed analogy.

Hmmm

I am trying to decide if this is a good thing or a bad thing.

Stabenow? Hoekstra?

Come on Scottie!

I'll take my Liberty, it's not yours to give.

Thank you!

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bump

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"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

someone

get ahold of boman - this movements alot of younger people - i live in michigan and know mannnny who will vote for boman just because of ron paul and libertarianism - so - someone get to boman's campaign and get a facebook up and running asap - things spread fast via the net and many voters are too lazy to go to a website and research - they just want to hit add friend and follow ur statuses - jeez - michigan - hasn't he learned from amash!?

Freedom.

Facebook has been up an running.

Yooperd17: I encourage you to get the word out to your network of friends as soon as possible. Yes I am on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/scottyboman
You may "Get ahold" of me at scottyboman[AT]hotmail[DOT]com.

Well...

Honestly, my impression from meeting and talking to him is that he's not very organized. He tried running as a republican, but couldn't get anywhere close to the signatures needed to get on the republican ballot. I offered him some free web work and he was very defensive. My clients would kill to have my 18 years of web development and online marketing experience for free, but he didn't seem interested. I decided to put my efforts in to helping my local congressman (Amash) instead. Boman switched to libertarian shortly after. Now that he's a libertarian it at least gives us a third choice, but not one I'm really impressed with.

Anyone else have personal insights on the guy?

18 years if web development and online marketing experience ...

kallussed, I don't know your real name, but you can send me an email at scottyboman[AT]hotmail[DOT]com to discuss this offer. I am always open to improvements, especially for free.

Forgive me if I don't remember our specific conversation, but I have had a number of people make offers and not follow through, but if we met and I appeared unorganized, it was because I have been doing so much of this (including web developement) on my own. Unlike the career politicians I have a full work schedule in addition to being a candidate.

Maybe he hasn't considered winning?

I think your strategy is excellent.

Free includes debt-free!

Winning!

Yes. I want to win. At this point money for advertising is the main focus. So if you know anyone interested in donating, please direct them to:

http://Scottyboman.org

If you have any new strategies, email me at scottyboman[AT]hotmail[DOT]com