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Bombshell: Rod Class gets FOURTH Administrative Ruling "Gov't Offices are Vacant"- All Gov't Officials are "Private Contractors"

Yes, you read that correctly; it is true, and is now on the court record; black ink on white paper. Please read on:

A lot of us have been exposing the crime of the UNITED STATES corporation for many years, but until recently, no one has had the proof that all government offices are vacant; no one is home; those supposed government offices/agencies are being occupied by PRIVATE CONTRACTORS and are NOT being occupied by a legitimate government body.

This is equivalent to the ice cream man knocking on your door and extorting taxes from you. He has no lawful authority to do anything other than drive the ice cream truck - he's not a government official; he's an ice cream man.

Your supposed government officials are nothing more than ice cream men/women who are fraudulently extorting money from you and your family; throwing you in prison; taxing you to death; stealing your children and imposing their will on you, and enforcing their own internal-statutory rules and codes upon you and your family.

Rod Class has now received FOUR Administrative Rulings that prove what many of us have felt to be truth: What you think is government; what you think are legitimate Government Officials/Senators/Congressman/Policeman/Governors/Tax Collectors, etc. are nothing more than private contractors, extorting money from American Citizens and failing to pay off the public debt as they are instructed to do by the 1933 bankruptcy.

What they have done is this:

These people have switched places with the average American Citizen. They are enforcing their own Administrative codes, that are only meant for THEM, upon regular Citizens who are not being paid by the corporation. The supposed elected officials have hoodwinked the country into an employment position without pay. They themselves are taking public money to occupy government seats/positions/agencies, when they are nothing more than private contractors ... Felony!

They are treating us as if we are paid government employees; enforcing their own internal rules-regulations-codes, and statutes on the average Citizen, as well as conveniently forgetting to send us our weekly/monthly government employment check.

I've been preaching this for the last year + with no avail on this forum. Perhaps now, people will begin to listen and take action.

In these radio shows, Rod explains his Administrative Rulings from the various Judges; explains the con, and shows you, where in their very own US Codes the above aforementioned information is spot on.

There are a few shows you need to listen to, and here are some bullet points of those shows:

1. All BAR attorneys are prohibited from representing John Q. Public; can only represent gov't officials and employees within their own agencies, their BAR Charter says so.

2. Any Judge that prohibits you from representing yourself or hiring a defense other than a BAR attorney, are in fact, committing a felony on the bench in violation of the Taft-Hartly Act (running a closed union shop) and the Smith Act (overthrow of Constitutional form of Gov't)

3. Anytime an BAR attorney represents someone in a case against you, you can now claim that person is incompetent; a ward of the state, with no standing to sue.

4. Any and all tax collectors, police officers, sheriffs dept's, DOT, tag agencies, BAR attorneys, Judges, Highway Patrol, supposed elected officials, are nothing more than private contractors, who can now be brought up on fraud charges for impersonating a public official while receiving federal funding.

5. Any and all home, vehicle, credit card loans are supposed to be discharged through the Treasury window, in compliance with the 1933 bankruptcy laws. These scumbags are double dipping and never discharging the debt like they are supposed to. They are embezzling the funds and pocketing them for themselves.

6. Every person sitting in prison today was railroading by a BAR attorney who's first allegiance is to the State; who had no lawful authority to represent them; who worked in concert with the State to perpetrate a fraud upon it's victims.

7. Orders from Administrative courts prove for the fourth time, an agency of the State is NOT an agency under the State.

8. Elected Officials are claiming 11th Amendment sovereignty, when it's actually you and I that hold 11th Amendment sovereignty. They are getting paid by the corporation, you and I are not.

9. They have admitted to the crime of no one actually holding a public office; they are filling corporate seats and defrauding the public.

10. Political subdivisions are not getting their 40% funding from the Feds as they are supposed to get.

11. These Judges have admitted (black ink on white paper) that all these State Offices are ........... EMPTY!

12. Now we have Administrative paperwork - ruling these public offices aren't part of the State agencies.

13. Attorney Generals may not practice law; can't represent the people who are not public officials.

14. If the State is a 3rd party interloper in your Marriage (marriage license); Vehicle Title (State Registration), etc. then they are liable for 1/3rd of the cost to manage the daily activities of that contract.

15. If the State demands you have a Drivers License and Tag your vehicle because it is registered with the State, then as the owner of the vehicle, the State is required to pay for the vehicle, the tags, licensing, fuel, tires, oil, etc. and they are also to pay you a salary for driving a State owned vehicle; it says so in their own Highway Safety Act and USC - CFR rules and regulations.

16. We now have the court orders that goes back and nullifies any and all IRS and Tax cases, Foreclosures, Credit Card Debt, cases or actions. These people never had the lawful right to demand anything of you; they are corporate actors, not a legitimate government body.

17. Judge admits the 1933 bankruptcy, and no way to pay off anything because of Federal Reserve Notes; all public debt is t be discharged through the Treasury.

18. Only the Secretary of Transportation can hear traffic cases; all traffic cases are civil, not criminal.

19. If you're not being paid for you time, you are not required to have one of their CDL or CMV licenses; it's prohibited.

20. Says we now have a major labor dispute on our hands; US corporation running a slave racket against American Citizens without the pay.

21. United States Codes (USC) and Titles #1 thru #50 are void; have never been passed by Congress; all have been repealed.

As I've been saying for a very long time on this forum: If you are not getting a weekly or monthly paycheck from the so called federal government aka UNITED STATES or one of it's sub corporations such as the STATE OF ***, then their statutory rules (not laws), codes and regulations DO NOT APPLY TO YOU ......... Period!

There is so much information packed into these last six calls, I can't even begin to share it in this post. If you want your freedom; if you want to know with 100% surety that the foreign corporation known as the UNITED STATES has zero authority over you unless you are receiving a weekly paycheck from them, take the time to listen to call #646 through #651 here:


Scroll down the page and click on the orange "Listen" button; a pop up player will appear for your listening pleasure.

And believe me: This is pure listening pleasure, with the court filings; rulings and US Code to back it all up.

By the time you finish these few short shows, your fear of the government will be a thing of the past.

Also, many of Rod’s current filings against the infrastructure are at: http://harveyw26.minus.com ...some may be easy to download, some may not !

And for those of you who are new to the forum and want to get a better grasp of all this prior to or after listening to the calls, here are some of my more informative posts on the matter at hand:

Public Notice to Gun Grabbing Politicians:


So the Government wants you to collect a sales tax?


Your Home Loan was paid the day you signed the note:


The real reason for the 14th Amendment:


What's the One Document in your possession that gives you the authority to rule over my life?


Can the State be an actual injured party? ..... No, it cannot!


Having a Social Security # is not a contract with the State/Feds:


Trust Law, your Rights and how to enforce them:


Why you should never hire an attorney:


Hopefully now in light of these Administrative Court Rulings people will now come to realize the fact, that Unless You Are Getting A Weekly Check From Government, Their Statutory Rules-Codes-Regulations They Put Off As Laws, Have Zero Force Or Effect On You Personally

No Contract = No Jurisdiction

Did you fill out an employment contract with the State; are they paying you for your services? If not, why the hell are you following their rules?

This is how we change our current form of Government back to the Republic is was initially intended to be.

If you don't take the time to listen to at least those last six shows at the link above, you are overlooking the most important information ever to come to light within the Liberty Movement.

Stop looking for a savior to save us from tyranny and listen to the shows I've provided. Now you are your own savior - Individually, now you can make a HUGE difference in our political structure and form of government.

In Liberty!

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The number of up-votes these bar members are getting

tells you how many other vultures are on here voting up each other's posts. They don't have the facts so they must dress up the lies.

So the major question here

So the major question here is: Is there anyone who can use this(or has used this) to successfully stop the federal government from collecting taxes on them?
In the end, that is like half the issue, with the other half being various laws imposed upon you.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Yes... but it's pretty tough to do

You need to basically research law for many years to even comprehend the minefield of information if you're going to even get in the ring.

I suggest you go here and just correct the record:

Encouraging revelations but how will this be applied in reality?

This is, without exception, one of the most encouraging bomb shell revelation about the Government. But how will it ever be applied in practical action against a government who virtually locked our society down with standing armies, cooperative platoons of citizen spy syndicates and modern warfare equipment. I don't think they care about a "piece of toilet paper" called the Constitution.
Best Regards,

Our most lethal weapon we have against them is EXPOSURE:

The faster this information gets out while we're still not under martial law; while we still have courts; while we still have internet, the more effective it will be.

If everyone who had a pending state/federal lawsuit would use this information, it would definitely cause the machine problems.

If you are not getting paid by the corporation, you are not liable to follow their internalstatutory rules-codes-regulations.

Wal-Mart employees have to follow corporate rules; they are receiving a paycheck from Wal-Mart.

UNITED STATES employees have to follow corporate rules; they are receiving a paycheck from the UNITED STATES.

"then they attack you"

Man brother you are getting attacked like crazy on here.

Rejoice :)

Come on

Just admit you were falsely stating what "The Bar" is The South.

You'll feel better. Just state it for the class!

Eric Hoffer

Let me correctly state it for you

BAR = British Accredited Regency (or register)



"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."


Man... didn't think I'd hear that in this thread.

Eric Hoffer

Seriously interested...

seeing as how the BAR is a con job and anyone learned in the law can be a private attorney general, what are some good resources to start learning law?

I refuse to spend tens of thousands of dollars a year on another worthless degree just to be a lawyer, but if I can learn on my own, that would be terrific.

Simple Facts and Plain Arguments
A common sense take on politics and current events.


If you want to learn the law...

...start with the law, lol, as opposed to the incoherent ramblings of these sovereign citizen people. You can find all kinds of study materials to prepare yourself for the bar exam, and I'll wager that any book being used in any law school can be found on Amazon.

And by the way, this thing about "private attorney generals" (aside from being utter nonsense), is no revelation. Anyone can become a lawyer; this is not news. You do not need a J.D. Just study for and pass the bar exam and you can practice law (though you're probably not going to be commercially successful without a J.D.).

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Excuse me

I am not a "sovereign citizen"

A citizen is a subject.

A sovereign is a king.

I am one of the sovereign people.

Now debunk this:

...at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects...with none to govern but themselves..... [CHISHOLM v. GEORGIA (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @DALL (1793) pp471-472.]


Now debunk this:

...at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects...with none to govern but themselves..... [CHISHOLM v. GEORGIA (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @DALL (1793) pp471-472.]

...this doesn't mean anything to me.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

"private attorney generals" (aside from being utter nonsense)

"Nonsense"? Passing the Bar exam is not requisite.

Just a little reading for those inclined.

On What A “Private Attorney General” Is And Why It Matters
William B. Rubenstein - Professor of Law, UCLA School of Law.


May 17, 2004 marked the fiftieth anniversary of the Supreme
Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education.1 This precise day
also marked the sixty-first anniversary of the Supreme Court’s first
use of the phrase “private attorney general.”2 For about three decades
after this initial 1943 appearance, the private attorney general
concept surfaced only occasionally in the legal literature. Starting in
the 1970s, however, its presence became quite regular, and that
regularity has escalated steadily to the present: on average, during
the past fifteen years, every single workday, somewhere in the United
States, some judge has written a legal opinion or some scholar has
penned an article invoking the private attorney general concept.3

1. 347 U.S. 483 (1954).
2. Justice Douglas used the term in a dissenting opinion, citing to Judge Jerome Frank’s original use of the phrase in a Second Circuit decision rendered several months earlier. F.C.C. v. Nat’l Broad. Co., Inc., 319 U.S. 239, 265 n.1 (1943) (Douglas, J., dissenting) (quoting Assoc. Indus. of New York v. Ickes, 134 F.2d 694 (2d Cir. 1943) (Frank, J.)).
3. See infra Part II

law.vanderbilt.edu/ publications/ vanderbilt-law-review/ archive/ volume-57-number-6-november-2004/ download.aspx?id=2972

JEREMY A. RABKIN - Associate Professor of Government, Cornell University./

The “private attorney general” came out of the shadows in the 1970s. In
1943, when the phrase first appeared in a federal appeals court ruling, army
generals commanded a lot more attention than any form of attorney general. 1
For decades thereafter, the term was an isolated oddity in the case reports.
Then in the 1970s, the term seemed to be everywhere. With sympathetic nur-
turing from courts and Congress, this form of legal advocacy seemed for a time to be a powerful engine of public policy. Over the past decade, however, the “private attorney general” has been in retreat, beset by critics and rivals and increasingly starved of resources and political support. If not quite back in the shadows, it is certainly under a cloud.

1. In the 25 years following its first use, the term appeared in only eight federal district court opinions and 11 court of appeals decisions (according to a LEXIS search). By contrast, between 1972 and 1977, the term appeared in 256 district court opinions and 167 court of appeals decisions. In the period between 1992 and 1997, it appeared in 237 district court decisions and 115 court of appeals decisions.


The Constitution is a Trust : http://www.The-Legacy.Info

I would add

that NOBODY has a "license to practice law" - there is no license - what BAR members get is a fancy certificate from the bar.

Is any BAR member here MAKING THE CLAIM that they have a "license to practice law?" If so please provide proof of claim as well as your mailing address so that you can receive my rebuttal of said claim.

Re you saying that we dont

Re you saying that we dont have to go to law school to become a lawyer?

That's exactly right.

There is a BIG difference between "lawyers" and "attorneys."

Lawyers study law.

Attorney's practice it (this way they can never claim to be professionals and hence fully liable for their actions).

I am fully responsible for every word I type and will back it all up. When I make a mistake I do my best to readily correct it once it has been brought to my attention.

As Eric Hoffer says...

...it may differ by State, but in general yes it is possible to practice law once you've passed the bar, no need for a JD (juris doctor - aka law degree). That's not to discount the value of a JD, I'm just saying it is not necessarily a legal requirement to practice law. Again, check the rules for admission to the bar for your own State to get the details.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."


do not join the BAR.

You do not need to be a BAR MEMBER to be a lawyer.


The State of Virginia begs to differ...


...an Arlington County police detective called Howard D. Deiner in September 2008 and told him he'd been accused of practicing law without a license...That same month, the Virginia State Bar informed Deiner that it was investigating him for the unauthorized practice of law, court records show. But Deiner continued to tell people he was a lawyer and took no steps to reinstate his frequently suspended license, which would have involved simply paying his dues...But "the icing on the cake," as an Arlington County judge put it, was when Deiner filed a lawsuit in federal court in Alexandria in December 2008 and signed another lawyer's name to it, when Deiner was neither a licensed lawyer nor admitted to the federal bar....And so Deiner was convicted this week of four counts of felony fraud and one misdemeanor count of unauthorized practice of law by Arlington Circuit Court Judge William T. Newman Jr. after a day-long bench trial.

This is what approximately 5 seconds of google research yields. I have no doubt one could find dozens and dozens of examples every year in every State of individuals being fined/imprisoned for practicing law without a license.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

And here's what another five minutes of a Google search will

yield: There is no license to practice law.


If these people are being brought up on bogus charges of "practicing law without a license", it's their own fault for not knowing the "LAW".


In the past you didn't need to, but off the top of my head, I think a lot of places have moved to not allowing you to take The Bar Exam without first getting a law degree. I believe it is jurisdictional however.

Eric Hoffer

See the presumption here?

The presumption is that you have to take the BAR exam to be a lawyer.


Everything these vultures do is based on presumption.

Now come on Eric: Call me a liar.


You're a liar. And we're talking about the type of lawyer who represents others in court and is completely the same thing as an attorney in the United States.


Gives a good description if we want to get technical, but for all intents and purposes in the US, and etymologists aside, the terms are used completely synonymously.

Eric Hoffer

You are the liar Hoffer; it's getting tiring correcting your

mistakes. You should stick to selling gas detection meters, I really don't think LAW is your thing.


Previous post from Maeve

Yesterday this comment was posted:

My question is very similar to the aforementioned poster. I am quite familiar with Mr. Class and his tireless work. The point was, that "Maeve", was asking for the direct information on the paragraph (you wrote):

Rod Class has now received FOUR Administrative Rulings that prove what many of us have felt to be truth: What you think is government; what you think are legitimate Government Officials/Senators/Congressman/Policeman/Governors/Tax Collectors, etc. are nothing more than private contractors, extorting money from American Citizens and failing to pay off the public debt as they are instructed to do by the 1933 bankruptcy.

Where are these administrative rulings located? Which court, what source ..... that is the question we all need answered. If those rulings are out there, then folks could start using them as "cites" for there legal situations.

So, all of that being said could you please just answer "Maeve" and supply the locations of this information?

Thank you.


Maeve on Sun, 10/14/2012 - 22:20. Permalink

In which broadcast EXACTLY do they talk about this? I really don't want to wade through all of this stuff just to hear those words from your title. I already know most of it I just want to hear them say it with a citation so I can find it somewhere else in print to download and save for later.

Direct quote from the initial post above:

"Also, many of Rod’s current filings against the infrastructure are at: http://harveyw26.minus.com ...some may be easy to download, some may not !"

If you want to get up to date (weekly) emails notifying you of Rod's court filings; judicial reviews; radio shows; administrative rulings, etc. you need to send an email to " rod-class-subscribe@rayservers.com " and put
" Big List " in the subject line and that's it. They will add you to the email Big List that goes out weekly informing you of new information and upcoming shows.

Being on the "Big List" will ensure you get up to date information and links to his court filings and responses.

Good info. Thank you! I'll be

Good info. Thank you! I'll be adding myself to that list. :)

Blessings )o(

How does President Turner feel about this?

He should use some of his 30 billion in gold to correct this matter.