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Free the Planet by Morning!

http://freetheplanet.net/file_download/39/uniform-bonding-co...

I got great news.
Do you know what the most horrifying words a public official will ever hear are?
"I have the name of your bond underwriter and I have a copy of your bond right here. You can either execute the duties of your office faithfully or I can file a claim against your bond. What would you like to do?"
If the official is paid by the county - the bonds are a public record available to anyone at the county recorder of deeds. If it's a judge they are most likely at the state level recorder.
If it's a cop the city hall has them.
[8:05:08 PM] Vincent: Enjoy your freedom. :)
[8:06:04 PM] Vincent: The bond terms specifically say they are to "execute the duties of their office faithfully" - that means constitutionally.
[8:06:14 PM] Vincent: No bond - no work.
[8:06:21 PM] Anon: ((y))
[8:06:28 PM] Vincent: Checkmate.
[8:06:38 PM] Vincent: Spread the message.
[8:07:15 PM] Vincent: Let's work fast and get the word out - we have a country to save.
[8:07:22 PM] Anon: I will
[8:14:59 PM] Anon: we r many....................
[8:15:54 PM] Vincent: ((flex))
[8:16:12 PM] Vincent: With great power comes great responsibility <--- remember that brother.
[8:22:34 PM] Anon: 100% agree ..
[8:38:00 PM] Vincent: WE THE PEOPLE - HAVE THE POWERRRRRRRRRRRR!
[8:38:18 PM] Vincent: ((bow))Thank you God :)
[8:39:00 PM | Edited 8:39:14 PM] Vincent: Okay I hit everyone on my contact list - about 200+ or so... if everyone does that plus hits facebook, twitter etc... we should have the country saved by morning.
[8:39:18 PM] Vincent: Heck the whole world!
[8:39:42 PM] Vincent: Now I'm going to hit up my email list...

Spread the message brothers and sisters :)

Blessings :)

Here is some important information on bonding public officials:
http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/work-in-progress/bonding-code.htm



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Jane & Joe

What I wonder is what is Joe six pack going to do about it when he/she realizes it is the Fed that owns his/her mortgage. Isn't that what QE3 is all about? The Fed prints money (more 0's) but buys assets with that printed money. Meanwhile Joe or Jane have to work to acquire that printed money to pay for the asset owned by the Fed? Seems like the Fed has Jane and Joe coming and going? If I am understanding the implications of QE3 infinity correctly.

The other thing is...this is not the day of King Louie. This is the day of predator drones and smart guns...didn't I read an article about a new gun that shoots ammunition that explodes above or behind a wall at the gunman’s choosing?

I wonder if a person who files an investigation claim with a bond agency is allowed to remain anonymous?

I realize I am throwing out negativity, I am sorry; I suppose I feel a bit hopeless after Tampa. I do hope the Bond angle will work.

I think we may have to realize that God Almighty may be the only option able force available against the prevailing evil staring us in the face.

...

Encouragment

"I realize I am throwing out negativity, I am sorry; I suppose I feel a bit hopeless after Tampa. I do hope the Bond angle will work."

Fearful, ignorant, and the desperate people, finding themselves painted into a corner, are apt to look for the best choice available in defense of their Liberty.

I really need to get my copy of The Gulag back because these types of welcome questions you continue to offer as a challenge call back in my mind a specific example concerning a specific paragraph in that book.

Trial by Jury is something we already discussed.

Competitive money produced by anyone we have already discussed.

Now there is this Bond thing.

All these things are competitive options that you can place side by side with your desire to "vote" for someone in this Side Show called The Election of 2012.

There are things that are in your interest to do, and there are things that you think are in your interest to do, and there are things that lend, send, transfer, moral, and material support to the bad guys, very bad guys (and gals), and there are things that you think are things that you can do to defend yourself against those very evil people WHILE you are actually sending moral and material support to them.

This Bond thing is not for you, unless you become courageous, and unless you find yourself in a situation where this Bond thing can work, and only if you know how it works precisely, failure to work these tools precisely can be worse than not using these tools at all.

The concept here can be seen as anyone, anywhere, finding themselves in need of expert advice as the Force of Law is bearing down on you, and you sure could use some help, and you need the help so desperately that you know that you have to spend every bit of your savings on gaining that expert advice, or you will be sent to a place where you will be tortured (fines and prison), and everything you hold dear will be taken from you (fines and prison) and then, much to your distress, the only product on the shelf at the Expert Legal Advice Store, is another criminal working for the same people who WILL torture you and take everything you hold dear from you.

Then, out of the blue, you see, in that dark room of ignorance, and apathy, you see a BLACK MARKET salesman who is selling Expert Legal Advice.

What do you see?

You, if you listen to the Frauds, will see a Snake Oil Salesman, because that is what you are told. You are told that this type of Freeman Information is a Hoax, and you are told that this type of information is SOLD by Terrorists, and Militia Movement Psychos, and this type of information is false, and this type of information is dangerous, and this type of information is invented by Survivalists, and this type of information must be avoided or crushed.

Is it a hoax?

Is it dangerous?

Does it constitute a method of defending Liberty if it is used correctly?

Will there be a greater demand for ACTUAL, reasonable, moral, competitive, defensive, expert knowledge concerning the Law of the Land as it is enforced by the actual people hired to enforce the Law of the Land?

Is it against the law to offer that Legal Advice, if there is a demand for it, even if you do not have a license to do so?

Is Legal Advice a Monopoly Power that is enforced legally in this Country?

Is a unlicensed legal adviser perpetrating a crime if an unlicensed legal adviser offers legal advice in this Country?

Do you know?

Is that an important question to know?

Joe

Maybe, Maybe Not

"Is Legal Advice a Monopoly Power that is enforced legally in this Country?

Is a unlicensed legal adviser perpetrating a crime if an unlicensed legal adviser offers legal advice in this Country?"

Although I did not read all of the Bond Code link, I do remember reading that after the Civil War the Bar Association was introduced and I also remember reading that it is illegal to give legal council unless one is a member of the Bar...A monopoly fraud? I also read this under the Organized Crime heading:

"To protect malfeasance, attorneys are forbidden to file criminal complaints against malfeasance officials, officer and clerks and against officers of other corporations. If they disobey, they lose their “license to practice law.”"

Along the lines of the Bond issue, I was wondering why one could not question the bond of all Reps and Senators who have voted against the Bill of Rights in support of the Patriot Act, NDAA, HR 345, etc. I was specifically thinking about my Rep who I have written several times and received a phone call from and wondering if I could personally ask for an investigation regarding her "faithfulness" thus threatening her bond.

The reason I asked the question about anonymity is because I do not want to lose everything near and dear to me, but more than that I do not want those who are near and dear to me to lose.

You see, I am not wanting to wait until I am in a life threatening position, I want to head off those threats…if this bond thing is legit and not already under the control of legal criminals so I am asking questions.

Is the president of the United States under Bond? The reason I ask is because I read these words under the bold heading “Bonding of Governments in General
Conclusion” on Bonding Code site, so I am thinking elected officials are not under bond? “A government (its officials, its officers, and its clerks) will not be bonded:…”[3 reasons are given]

Which now leads me to this question: Is this bonding thing something already in place or something someone is trying to put into place?

As far as militias and such some of the people I have seen on YouTube almost seem like they are begging for “action.” IMO people should lay low instead of broadcasting “Come and Get ME.” But then, I probably do not understand that world of militias and probably do not want to. However along those lines I saw this on the DP http://www.dailypaul.com/258853/bombshell-rod-class-gets-fou... which made me think of those types of groups.

I found this interesting quote on the Bond Code link:

“Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our outmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude and perseverance. Let us remember that ‘if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involves others in our doom.’ It is a very serious consideration . . . that millions yet unborn may be the miserable shares of the event.”
Samuel Adams
Speech (1771)

"Do you know?"

Maybe, Maybe Not. I do not know if I understand what I am supposed to understand.

Is that an important question to know?

Are you saying I am asking the wrong questions?

"All these things are competitive options that you can place side by side with your desire to "vote" for someone in this Side Show called The Election of 2012."

Is Reince Priebus bonded?

If and when we, those who choose to do so, decide to find out about voter fraud and how and if the vote is really counted and by whom...is the "by whom" bonded?

Who is brave among us? us = those who call themselves Friends of Liberty

...

Cause, and false cause

"The reason I asked the question about anonymity is because I do not want to lose everything near and dear to me, but more than that I do not want those who are near and dear to me to lose."

Who needs any Law, other than your own common, moral, sense, ever?

The Bond concept, to me, shows how those who do want or need Law, are still fighting a competitive battle to control it, and that is the good news, because competition does FORCE quality up and cost down, in a productive, moral, sense, not in an immoral, kill or be killed, Might makes Right, sense.

In other words: Bond holders have to actually balance the books and balance the books better than the competition or they are out of business.

That is the opposite of cooking the books, where the competition is to lie better, and fool the fools better, with such things as Budget Reports covering up Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports.

Of course on a level where you becoming a threat to the worse people imaginable, which is a thing you can do, where you raise significantly the awareness of those enemies of you, if you volunteer to start forcing a National Level office holder with Bond Claims against them, based on National Constitutional Bill of Rights Laws, of course, that may be a bad idea for you alone.

I don't see the point in that, what I see is more in line with an avenue, one of those 100, or 10000, or 10,000, OTHER paths to take OTHER than Obey without question, as desperate people learn to look more carefully at this type of alternative, in any case where the desperate person NEEDS defensive law power AGAINST offensive (criminal) Law Power.

The good news continues, in the fact that the Law is, in this Bond issue, on your side, because the answer to the questions are in your favor, if those answers are true, in the specific cases that are current, or the specific cases that are in the future.

To be specific, rather than general:

Look at the contribution by one of the people offering their personal experiences on this Topic here on this Forum, an interview with a couple who are raided by Police, where the Police raid appears to be constitutionally illegal.

What happens in that case, if we learn about it, and if the information is accurate, and we understand how it plays out, as a Non-Licensed Counselor of Law may help those people avoid further injury by those officers of the law, or a judge, or a lawyer, who step over the line, and those officers who stepped over the line in the raid are also afforded the same Due Process to make good the injury that they caused, and here is where the Bond (competition) force applies that Force that inspires the Police officer to make the wrong that he did as right as possible, if the Police officer wants to keep his Bond, and his job.

I don't agree with this (fascism), for many reasons, but it is what it is, in cases where it does work that competitive way.

I'm listening.

Dinner is now on the schedule.

Dinner was cheese sandwiches and macaroni and cheese.

"You see, I am not wanting to wait until I am in a life threatening position, I want to head off those threats…if this bond thing is legit and not already under the control of legal criminals so I am asking questions."

I do not see anyway to go on the offensive against criminals morally, not alone, not without a whole lot of specialized friends of liberty who work diligently in the necessary work of separating the best from the worst and then focusing that aggressive power only on the worst one, and then the second worst, in that way of triage, along the lines of America's Most Wanted.

Sure, in an offensive way, imagine employing all the power wasted in World War II to go into Germany, and go into Russia, and capture Hitler, and Capture Stalin, and then afford them a Trial by Jury, and what would happen if during discovery they told the story of who financed them, and it turns out that the whole Word War II thing was paid for by our hard work as we sent our power "to provide the means by which we suffer" into the IRS with Federal Reserve Notes, as the Legal Criminals on Wall Street bought that war to move the World Reserve Currency Power to American from England, to hide it better?

No, Joe, you are a nut case?

"Is the president of the United States under Bond? The reason I ask is because I read these words under the bold heading “Bonding of Governments in General
Conclusion” on Bonding Code site, so I am thinking elected officials are not under bond? “A government (its officials, its officers, and its clerks) will not be bonded:…”[3 reasons are given]"

I hope that the OP can answer those questions better. I do not see a single person ever succeeding in a fight against a President or Congressman, and that has been my goal with running for Congress, and my Internet Presidential Campaign. Pathetic as it is, the concept of one person doing the same thing by using Bonds, instead of elections, is better?

The Bond thing is the Local thing to me. The problem at the Top Down has 3 obvious solutions:

1. End the FED
2. End the IRS
3. Bring the Troops Home

That requires the power of numbers, one at a time, but there needs to be enough people working effectively to get those goals accomplished.

The individual can look for things to do, so, logically, learn the Bond thing, just in case, and you may be able to, at least, teach your Lawyer a thing or two, if you end up having to hire a Union Lawyer for some reason.

Tangible things that real people can see, and do, in any Local Case, whatsoever, whereby the Law Power injures you, or your family, and you must invent, produce, and maintain a remedy.

Is that not better than waiting for a Union Employee to arrive on the scene to save you, from the same Union that caused you the injury?

"Which now leads me to this question: Is this bonding thing something already in place or something someone is trying to put into place?"

Very good question, and you apparently don't even know just how good your questions are at times.

I am going to guess that the Bond thing is Founding Father stuff, back to the 13 Colonies, and probably even before that, in England.

It is based upon an obvious concept called "savings", to me, and a part of "savings" is "insurance", so Bonding (not counterfeit bonding) is legit, and moral, and logical, and reasonable, and useful, and not destructive, so if it is as I think it is (very old) and still alive and working (more or less), then, again, it is along the same lines as Trial by Jury.

If you don't make use of it, what happens?

"which made me think of those types of groups."

I did not look at the link. I do not want to confuse this Bond issue, from this OP, or from the other posters here, with anything else. Are you making connections that do not exist?

"Maybe, Maybe Not. I do not know if I understand what I am supposed to understand."

This is the basic Power Struggle stuff, the struggle between Competition and Monopoly, the struggle between Liberty and Legal Crime, the struggle between Collectivism and Individualism, the struggle between a Involuntary Association and Voluntary Association, the struggle between Falsehood and Truth, etc.

Take Monopoly for example.

The Union of Lawyers are FORCED to be bonded by the force of competition, if they do not produce, if they act immorally, the victims can make claims against their bonds.

OK, I have an angle for you, an angle I tried on my mother, and she seemed to understand this angle:

A crime syndicate may find an employee who steps over the line, this guy goes around and hacks people up in parking lots, and in shopping malls, in brought daylight. The big bosses at crime central consider the possibilities of having their crimes associated with that one of their number, the serial hacker, and they say, Hey, if we let that happen, then we are no longer going to be able to hide behind out thin veil of legitimacy, so they have to do something about the serial hacker.

Why?

Because the POWER is drive by morality.

Bond power, apparently, is driven by morality.

Why?

Because morality is the only way to get anything productive done.

Even the criminals know that they can't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs, they can't step too far over the line, and they have to keep some semblance of Liberty alive, or there won't be anything left that is worth stealing.

That is the Insurance apparatus called Bonding.

The Insurance apparatus called Bonding is like the Crime Syndicate Boss at Extortion Headquarters having a cooler head, and saying to the revenuers, the collectors, the thugs, the mercenaries, go as far as you want, but if you start generating Claims against you, then you will be pulled off the front lines, and you can't collect payments from the slaves anymore.

Who is writing claims against the worst bad guys (locally)?

No one knows about it?

"Is Reince Priebus bonded?"

That is the first time I hear that name. I don't know. I think this Bonding stuff is Local Area Stuff between you and a government employee who causes you injury and then you work to remedy that injury locally.

"If and when we, those who choose to do so, decide to find out about voter fraud and how and if the vote is really counted and by whom...is the "by whom" bonded?"

Local elections may be a very good avenue where this Bonding information can be put to very good use. I don't know, but the point here is that this is pioneering stuff, whereby current Friends of Liberty have to reinvent this wheel, before this wheel falls off the cart.

I don't know.

"Who is brave among us? us = those who call themselves Friends of Liberty"

Relatively speaking, if you want the best answer, go look in the mirror. I think you had better take a better look, because you are brave.

Joe

Supply and Demand

The greater the supply of oath abiding public officials, the better the demand in the bond investment business. This is free market principles at it's finest. The problem arises when the general public doesn't know about these bonds and allow themselves to be abused at the will of dictators with badges.

The quicker liberty minded activists start pulling bonds, making claims and then enforcing their claims in courts of record the fast our freedoms and liberty will be restored.

The best part about the bond issue is that they can't insure these people for fraud, extorsion, kidnapping, murder etc... because then the evidence would be a public record - black ink white paper.

Amazing

I had reached a point for some time where I thought that there were no more epiphanies on this path but this bond issue is really, how can a say this: putting the last nail in the coffin (of Legal Crime)?

I still think The Constitution (not Declaration of Independence or Bill of Rights) is a well working crime in progress, but I agree with this statement:

"This is free market principles at it's finest."

Even the worst of the worst (unless they are insane) know of the need to maintain productive capacity and in that case books have to be balanced accurately (not for public consumption necessarily).

What is public?

This really get's down to where the rubber meets the road (bond issue).

The latest offering in your "by morning" Topic has another interesting reference (inculpatory?) on the subject of the fight between Admiralty and Common LAW where a statement is made concerning "passing the bar" and getting on the "ship".

If it took me over 20 years to get this far, and I just now start seeing this Bond stuff, I have a much greater appreciation for the measure of mass mind control, We The People have been had for some time, and the infection goes very deep.

Joe

Thanks

Thanks for dropping in Bear, you are needed here in my opinion.

This fits in so well to me, again, a keystone.

Legal Crime has to have "honor among thieves" in order for criminals to gain any power. In other words the Legal Criminals have to organize and therefore they have to have a way to cooperate with each other, otherwise their power is only as bad as one bad guy can be all alone.

So what rules do they use?

There is more to that, including the need to keep the Power Supply at the required level, so that there is sufficient Purchasing Power available to get necessary things done, so there has to be an actual Free Market working.

Where is it?

I hope the OP can answer your questions better, since my viewpoint (a viewpoint you alone have a clue about) is not normal, I think it is competitive, and accurate, but it does not transfer well.

The actual Free Market can be found, in part, in this Bond business, and it has to exist, without it there would only be Might making Right, or Total Crime, often confused with "Anarchy".

There has to be an actual working government of some kind, and I don't mean Legal Crime. I mean, specifically, a Free Market, or Liberty, which has to exist somewhere, in some form, without which no productive work can occur, because all the power available would otherwise be consumed as each person consumes each other person.

There has to be, in other words, The Force of Competition, operating somewhere, and here is one of those places, in this Bond market.

This is where the rubber meets the road, this is the thin blue line, this is the Power Struggle being defined, with or without words in English used to tell about it.

Liberty, or morality, or cooperation, or The Free Market, or The Force of Competition, is the absence of a greater power such as Despotism (Legal Crime), The Counterfeit Free Market, immorality, slavery, and Monopoly.

Bond markets, as far as I can tell so far, are in Liberty, in Competition, in The Free Market and so efforts to play by their rules are efforts to hold criminals to account, even if the criminals have badges, and specifically WHEN the criminals have badges, because they can't get a job with a badge if they can't get a bond.

If I have that right.

"Maybe there will be a need to Bond the Bonding Companies?"

That is the point!

You are so good at getting to the point.

That is the point since that is a matter of fact.

The bonding companies can't get their POWER to be in the business if they allow crimes to continue, who would buy into it?

This is along the lines of Trial by Jury, if we lose this, or don't use it, what happens?

Monopoly (Legal Crime)

Joe

Thank you for your thoughts.

the Bonding Agents ARE going to react to Claims being made against the Bond, because it is in their own best interest to do so, within reason.

While considering the fact that most will not follow through with a complaint - learn the law (no attorney will sue a cop) so that they can prosecute the case themselves... I believe this is something very simple that anyone can do when their rights are violated.

Even if you go no further than to just file the claim it will have a positive affect on restoring rights. If you choose to go further... as I am... it will have a much greater effect.

My notices will be going out to not only the implicated actors but also they will be cc'd to the respective bonding agencies. Simple administrative process - unanswered - then builds a solid claim which would be quite a risky gamble for any bonding agency to ignore. If they choose to ignore they will see me in a court of record.

In my court, the judge cannot make any decisions. If he makes a decision I will issue an order vacating the decision. If the clerk refuses to file my orders she will be tampering with judicial process. I've learned enough about the law to know how to negotiate these murky waters and will follow through in the interests of liberty for all.

Warnings

Warning that may not pertain to this case:

I had a friend awhile ago, in my Labor for Hire Days, and he moved to Arizona. I lost contact with him. He was known to be a bully by some people. I never had a problem with him. He did not take anything from anyone without question, or contention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9IMWshb9Vk

Bill Foust returned to my focus of attention when I stumbled upon that video linked above, and then I tried to contact Bill Foust by e-mail, to get more information concerning what he had discovered.

Bill Foust was shot a killed by police.

I do not want to pretend that there is any threat aimed at anyone for doing anything SPECIFIC, and that is the point.

Who are the Daniel Shays, Patrick Henry, Pilgrims, Settlers, and Pioneers of today's Power Struggle for Liberty and what exemplifies that individual POWER to fight against the forces of crime made legal or to use the historical terminology, who exemplifies a Friend of Liberty in the fight against Tyranny, Despotism, Consolidated Government, Monarchy, or The Divine Rights of Kings?

I don't have the official answer, and my individual opinion is that the OP, the topic starter, exemplifies that POWER that CHECKS the POWER of Despotism, as did, as far as I know, again individually, and without having discovered all the facts I can discover in the case, Bill Foust was also among that group of people who constitute the POWER, the self-government POWER, that CHECKS, and BALANCES, against the POWER of Crime, and specifically against the POWER of Crime being made Legal.

Crime being made legal is done by deceit, threats of violence, and violence upon the innocent, and when that is legal, as in torturing innocent people, and as in mass murdering innocent people, then Crime is Made Legal, as high paid Union Lawyers cover up those crimes made legal with deceptions, false flags, threats, and more violence added to the massive torture and the massive murders ongoing.

I wandered off topic?

I don't think so.

Who is the judge?

Case in point:

The concept of a Union of Monopoly Legal Authorities, or Lawyers, "passing the bar", is brought up in the linked information offered by the OP.

A non-union Lawyer POWER is becoming more and more in demand, and what can be offered by anyone to supply that demand?

Black Market Lawyers?

Scab Lawyers?

Union busting, bar crossing, scabs, who cross the picket line, AGAINST the law, in the Black Market of unlawful authorities of LAW POWER?

No, and that is the point.

If I am not mistaken, the point is that there is still a semblance of reason, logic, and FREE MARKET (competitive) forces involved in the invention, production, and maintenance, of the LAW POWER, which is still in demand, in America, so, with fewer words: It is not against the Law to practice Law without a license.

The methods by which a volunteer can volunteer to elect themselves as a non-Union lawyer is not Common Sense Knowledge, but the point here, it seems to me, is to point out that the LAW is common sense stuff, and it is stuff that anyone, in their right mind, can figure out, without having to jump all the hoops that are required to "pass the bar" and become a Union Lawyer.

Again, this is the stuff that is revolutionary.

In point of fact, on the ground, at the front lines, where the rubber meets the road, on that thin blue line, this is the Power Struggle Defining itself in Modern Times.

The Arm Chair Trolling Naysayers, Tories?, those who accept crimes made legal without question, because the official, or the paper, says so, are apt to jump on my warning and say "I tried to tell you." and thereby apologize, again, for their lack of offering anything of any kind, by way of Liberty, as Liberty must be a POWER that is exerted in specific ways, to CHECK the power of crime, and especially to CHECK and BALANCE AGAINST crimes made legal.

What is the LAW?

You don't know.

Is that a problem?

Not yet?

Who is doing anything in the fight against crimes, and specifically who exemplifies those things that can be done by individual people, in the fight against crimes being made Legal?

You don't know?

Then you may want to listen.

I'm not my brother's keeper.

Joe

Thank you for sharing this story.

Synchronicity.
I am going out to interview this couple in a few hours:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w6G-yXvkKA&feature=player_em...
When I first met them, they were POLITELY working with the court system to come to a mutually agreeable resolution to a situation. They are well-versed in their rights, and the sheriff's deputy considers that "an issue." Characterizes him as "anti-law enforcement" when he is actually retired law enforcement....So, to answer your question, "Who are the Daniel Shays...?" I would submit "Bear and Marcela." It is an honor to help them, but this is a nice, sobering reminder how high the stakes are.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Headline News

Please consider updating as time permits.

Joe

Will post the interview ASAP

but I have a farm to run, nothing gets done till the animals eat. It might take me a day or 2 to edit and upload.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Just called Liberty Mutual

I just called Liberty Mutual. Asked how you go about filing a claim against the bond of a public official. Got transfered to the bond claims department. Left a voicemail... let's see if I get a call back.

If we have to go thru the courts - then we're back at square 1 IMO.
It should be as simple as filing an affidavit of claim which then needs to be responded to - will cover judgement by default in the phone call.

One good question will be if they can do a search for bonds of public officials - and if they can search the databases of other companies - kind of like an MLS real estate search.

If you have any other good questions to ask the claims department - drop em in the comments. As to the armchair quarterback down here I'll not be responding to his comments any further.

Can you...

Think up some competitive applications?

Example:
Gun Laws

Have a gun that you don't mind if it is confiscated. Carry it when you feel the need. I have needs in the work I do, and that is another example of another competitive application.

If the gun is confiscated (I don't think I would go to jail where I live), then I file a claim.

If I do go to jail, and then I see a judge, I file another claim?

I have yet to read the pdf file and the link on this subject but this sure does look like a very good way to move back toward Liberty.

Something that people can actually do, something outside the box, something individual, and something that isn't deceptive, threatening, or offensively violent.

Am I misunderstanding the surface look at this process?

"The issue can be made even clearer by a second very appropriate example. The legal profession’s labor union, the Bar Association, was established immediately after the Civil War to substitute a system of general slavery to replace the old system of black slavery, by guaranteeing a monopoly of the courts for attorneys, judges and municipal corporations (city, county, state). This labor union, the Bar Association, has forbidden anyone but union (Bar) attorneys to give legal advice, and has prevented anyone from being assisted in court by a non-union lawyer or by a non-lawyer, thus converting the courts into closed union shops. This corresponds to pre-Civil War United States wherein blacks were not taught to read and were not allowed to get a public education lest they become strong enough persons to speak out against their repression and overthrow their slavemasters."

WOW!

"When a state, by and through its officials and agents, deprives a citizen of all of his remedies by the due process of law and deprives the citizen of the equal protection of the law, the state commits an act of mixed war against the citizen, and, by its behavior, the state declares war on the citizen. The citizen has the right to recognize this act by the publication of a solemn recognition of mixed war. This writing has the same force as the Declaration of Independence. It invokes the citizen's U.S. constitutional 9th and 10th so-called amend guarantees of the right to create an effective remedy where otherwise none exists.?"

Solemn recognition of mixed war?

Joe

Thank you for your thoughtful response...

Yes I think you've got the jist of it.

Put Up or Shut UP

Again I ask what have you done yourself? Please enlighten the unwashed as to your experience in what you preach instead of trying to childishly insult anyone who asks you to back your claims.

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Umm.... WOW?

The issue can be made even clearer by a second very appropriate example. The legal profession’s labor union, the Bar Association, was established immediately after the Civil War to substitute a system of general slavery to replace the old system of black slavery, by guaranteeing a monopoly of the courts for attorneys, judges and municipal corporations (city, county, state). This labor union, the Bar Association, has forbidden anyone but union (Bar) attorneys to give legal advice, and has prevented anyone from being assisted in court by a non-union lawyer or by a non-lawyer, thus converting the courts into closed union shops. This corresponds to pre-Civil War United States wherein blacks were not taught to read and were not allowed to get a public education lest they become strong enough persons to speak out against their repression and overthrow their slavemasters.

Ok so what is the "proven"

Ok so what is the "proven" remedy?...

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More good stuff :)

Claims Access Pursuant to Civil Rights Law

Improper enforcements which run counter to the U.S. Constitution can involve as many as thirty-five (35) violations of the provisions of the United States Constitution valued per 18 USC 241 at $10,000 per constitutional violation, per offense, per officer, per injured party when the officer is acting as a part of a law enforcement agency effort.

The civil value is therefore approximately $350,000 per enforcement offense, per enforcement officer, per injured party.

It is my understanding that

It is my understanding that anyone may take action as a private attorny general, much like Rod Class does. I wonder if you could file a claim agianst the bond and in court on behalf of "all others simularly situated"?

So how do you plan to enforce

So how do you plan to enforce this provision? You can file a law suite in Federal district court maybe... Oh wait those Judges all fall under the same self insured scheme and you won't get past the crp's before they find you in contempt and decide to cool you off for 3 days... Good luck anyway if you intend to pursue it...

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It seems you have a vested interest...

In people not knowing how to hold public officials accountable to their oaths of office. I catch the tone... "good luck" meaning: "You got no chance we'll keep stealing from you until you're dead and there's not a damn thing you can do about it."

FYI, Hawk really is one of

FYI, Hawk really is one of the good guys. He is like many that I work with...just wants to "see" the truth and proof.

And for Hawk; This issue of going after bonds without first going to court is as new to RPvGoldman Sachs as it is to me. Give 'us' time to test it. You will be shown the results whether good or bad. Heck try it yourself and get back to us. I like to think it holds potential. I plan to use the information in my upcoming, no tags case.

Again tell us what you have

Again tell us what you have done and what it has accomplished instead of continually trying to avoid answering with your childish bullshit. I have a vested interest in truth. I used to teach this stuff and there is a lot of crap out there.

The reality is the de facto corporate government has the power and they are willing to enforce it and they don't give a damn about the law and they have a bunch of sheep who believe that is the lawful government etc. deal with it instead of spouting rhetoric you have never even done yourself.

Do you have a drivers license? I bet you do so until you can divest yourself of just that STFU! I am sick of self proclaimed experts like you who make claims and have never even done the simplest of remedies to divest from the de facto government. Put up or shut up!

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One last response...

You are not required to reserve your rights in a commercial contract in order to excercise them at will. That's the express meaning of UNalienable rights while the de factos want people to think they have INalienable rights... the latter being the one with the rights can give them up by consent.

“It is one thing to find that the Tribe has agreed to sell the right to use the land and take valuable minerals from it, and quite another to find that the Tribe has abandoned its sovereign powers simply because it has not expressly reserved them through a contract. To presume that a sovereign forever waives the right to exercise one of its powers unless it expressly reserves the right to exercise that power in a commercial agreement turns the concept of sovereignty on its head.” MERRION ET AL., DBA MERRION & BAYLESS, ET AL. v. JICARILLA APACHE TRIBE ET AL. 1982.SCT.394 , 455 U.S. 130, 102 S. Ct. 894, 71 L. Ed. 2d 21, 50 U.S.L.W. 4169 pp. 144-148.

Some good bond information

Here:
http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/work-in-progress/bonding-code.htm

In the past, the state incorporation laws have required all corporations engaged in business potentially hazardous to the public safety, health and welfare, to be bonded against public accident and the malpractice of their officers, but more recently “self-bonding” has become a state-condoned option extended to municipal corporations to insulate them against prosecution for violation of the general state incorporation laws which demand public hazard licensing and bonding for all corporations. A corporation that is “self-bonded” is a limited corporation (ltd.) with a low ceiling of limited liability. The term, “self-bonded,” is a fraudulent misrepresentation of the corporate liability status. It says in effect that the payment of the commercial debts of the corporation will take second place to the payment of the malpractice obligations of the corporations. Furthermore, “self-bonding” cannot possibly be expected to cover the anti-civil rights and anti-constitutional malpractice potential of today’s modern antisocial municipal corporations. Simply put, “self-bonding” is “no-bonding;” it is corporate limited liability misrepresentation and fraud.

Good so even though you tried

Good so even though you tried to insult me you actually went and looked up what I told you good for you. So now you see that trying to arrest an officers bond is futile with their self insured scheme and they have no intention of following the law. Also they have guys with guns that are willing to enforce their fraud... Next...

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Who do you work for?

The BAR?

Obviously you have never

Obviously you have never tried this before. I have and guess what I found out. They underwrite their own bonds now and they aren't even bonds anymore they are just insurance policies. Many of them just blanket policies and not for each individual office and they self insure. The few who know what you're talking about will just chuckle at you. Police officers on the street will have no clue what you are talking about. Your Secretary of State will probably know but few others will...

Instead of chiding others about doing their homework try cleaning your own porch first and verify before you make claims... ;-)

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Instead of talking about how you failed...

Why not tell us about your interaction with the claims department?