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You have to listen to Dr. Jill Stein talk about being arrested outside the debate this week. Your blood will BOIL!

This is an interesting dialogue between Gary Johnson & Jill Stein about the issues as they apply to their presidential campaigns. I knew that Jill & her VP were arrested outside the debate this week, but how they were treated made me run to my computer to post this. The "arrest" part starts at 21 minutes. You have to at least listen to that part.

What country are we living in when bonafide presidential candidates get arrested & hancuffed to chairs for hours?


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Gun to my head....

If I gotta choose between Stein, Romney or Obama.

I say "Just pull the trigger already."

Stein is a devout communist. Force everyone to participate - that's her basic line of thought.

Yeah. I'd only ride in a car

Yeah. I'd only ride in a car with Bernie Sanders to the pitstop of the "removal of government corruption and inefficiency" then we'd have to part ways after that.

Southern Agrarian

that doesn't mean that the way she was treated is . . .

lawful or acceptable.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Thanks for the upload. This

Thanks for the upload.

This is what was going thru my head the entire time: http://youtu.be/FcN08Tg3PWw

Um, how does Ron Paul get a

Um, how does Ron Paul get a lower 'liberty torch' rating then Gary Johnson? No way, no how, someone doesn't know what liberty is if Gary gets a higher rating and Obama gets only 2 less then Ron Paul, doh.

I Suspect Obama's Score

is based on his rhetoric, not his record.

I suspect Dr. Paul's score suffered on account of things such as his stance on abortion, his stance on the tenth amendment, his opposition to the Civil War, his opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and his opposition to hate crime legislation.

"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

this is terrible--

I disagree about Jill Stein. Even if *I* don't believe environmental wisdom should be legislated--

this woman has threatened someone in order to have been treated as she was; this is horrific--

she's not a joke. *We* don't have to vote for her to see that she is exposing some of the same things that other 3rd party candidates (and Dr. Paul) has exposed--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

What Do You Mean By "This Woman Has Threatened Someone"?


"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

Me? Oh, did you think I meant that she . . .

verbally or physically threatened someone? No, of course not. She's obviously a well-educated, refined woman--

her running for office and trying to be SEEN has been a threat to the PTB--

even though, unlike Dr. Paul, she isn't a true constitutionalist, she's a threat to the PTB. That is the context of 'threaten' I meant, not that she has done something threatening to an individual--

the fact that she had the courage to show up at the entrance to the debates and protest obviously threatened someone's status quo--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Okay Thanks For Clarifying

I wasn't trying to be accusatory or finger wagging; I was just confused and unsure of what you meant. Thanks for explaining further.

And yes, you're of course quite right. As Tom Woods often says, the power structure detests when anyone strays from the 3x5 index card of acceptable discourse.

"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

this world is not developed, it is only staged.

it is as if when your asleep in the American dream all is bliss,

once awake you are in a different world, you realize there is a beast out to get you, and by purpuseful appointment you reach its territory where it seeks to store you for foodstuff... luckily she got away.

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

this makes me want to listen to her more--

even though she's not strong enough on the constitution to entice me to vote for her--

she has seen the 'beast' and is calling it a beast--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

It's NOT funny, ROFL anyways

The real life frustration due to technical errors became sheer comedy of errors. And for a rare third party debate? This is criminal because it hurts.. It's nothing to laugh about, and yet, I laugh because it's unbelievable.. but there it is.

It's all the more reason I think whatever sacrifices we have to take to restore the republic in the GOP is worth it, rather than this kind of pain of not being heard techinical difficulties asside.


sad that third parties only have the chance to share their views through grassroots means ... in this case online which has a lot of bugs to work out. Totally unfair to be excluded from national telecasts. Great job here by Johnson and Stein. Glad to hear Stein invite Johnson onto Democracy Now next Monday - I really hope he will attend. It will be foreign policy centered. Don't forget next Tuesday, Oct 23 - Third Party Debate with four presidential candidates.

I didnt watch all of this

but it seems to me like Jill is pushing Agenda 21 with all that sustainable talk. Also her talk of "direct job creation" worries me because this is not the role of constitutional government. Can anyone help me out here and tell me what Jill is about? Not that it really matters because there is no chance in hell that she will become president, but I am curious about her. On the surface she does not come across as a true constitutionalist. She seems to believe government is the answer to our economy.

I like Gary Johnson more, however I do not like his policy on imigration.

It's ridiculous how there is no one running like Ron Paul who gets EVERYTHING. Gary Johnson is dead wrong on imigration and I dont see how he doesnt see that.

Correct me, if I am wrong, however

What I understood, is the support for sustainability and the green jobs was addressed as local community involvement, not national federal government. The federal government is limited under the constitution, all other powers are to the people or the states. Sustainability is vitally important long term, but agenda 21 is not the answer, the solutions should be from local communities and the states.

I am not for Jill Stein, but her voice should be heard, as should Gary Johnsons.

yup you are right

She said twice. Would be communities making the decisions. However i still think she wants money to come from the gov.

She is still better then Obama and Romney anyday anyhow. I will vote Gary Johnson, but if it were only her Romney or Obama in the race I might be inclined to vote for her.

She's an environmentalist.

Jill Stein is in the green party dude of course she's gonna drone on and on about the environment and sustainability. That's the entire point of the green party. Jill has only been getting some fair attention for her efforts to bring attention to the 3rd party exclusion in the Presidential debates.

“Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason.” ― Mark Twain

"Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank and he can rob the world."

She is NOT a true

She is NOT a true constitutionalist. She's not being ragged on because she's at least bringing attention to the fact that there are options out there being suppressed. Green Party is peace oriented / progressive taxes / interested in evironmental issues... basically what a lot of Democrats think the Democratic Party is all about when its not.

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I kept trying

to click ahead past technical problems and I'd just land on another one. I'm glad they're covering these guys, but, Man.

Defend Liberty!

Thanks for posting this

The technical problems made this so annoying to listen to. If they expect people to give any consideration to third party involvement, they need a professional presentation. That being said, both of these candidates are superior choices to what we are being offered with the existing two parties.

Someone explain to these

Someone explain to these geniuses what feed back is.. shame i really wanted to watch this too.

Police state strides forward.

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I found

the whole discussion within this debate to be highly enlightening as to what these candidates represent. These are voices of substance that must be heard. I won't waste another second of my attention on Mitt vs. Barack as the real debate is from those who the Republicrats have conspired to silence.

Will the MSM air this?

No chance.


Censoriship is in full force.

Protect your assets and profit from the greatest wealth transfer in history.


And of course the MSM barely covered it. They might have to mention her name.

It is discraceful

Just clicked on your democracy now coverage. A must see for everyone.
I'd love to see comments from the candidates who were in the building.
Who speak of representing and protecting the American people.

Someone should start a new news station called Hypocrisy Now.



Hypocrisy Now! LOL, I love it, that's brilliant.

“Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason.” ― Mark Twain

"Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank and he can rob the world."