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Please stand with couple profiled as "Constitutionalists"

Please watch the video for yourself, then consider this quote from the article:

“A video dated Aug. 16, shows officers approaching the home with weapons drawn. They identify themselves as Sheriff’s Office deputies and tell a woman at the door, identified as Marcela Cruz-Gibbons, to step out of the house.”

Is that what you saw? For the local paper to be so bold as to write this obvious lie, they must assume no one will watch the video. This is where you can help, for free. Please make sure that everyone YOU know sees the video and listens to the audio.

Why is a man who swore an oath to uphold the Constitution saying that another man who wants to uphold the Constitution is “anti law enforcement?” Is the Constitution not the law of the land? Why would being a Constitutionalists be considered “an issue?” Perhaps most disturbing of all, why would officers respond to a “domestic violence” call and find a calm, unharmed woman… and proceed to scare the hell out of her and leave her bruised and battered?

If women can expect THAT as “help” if they ARE being beaten, they will cling to their abusive husbands like grim death.

Full article with videos:
http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2012/10/plea...



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I wish you much luck in helping this couple see justice!

Hopefully the contents of this thread will help them in their fight against the private contractors acting as legitimate gov't officials - law enforcement, judges, AG's, etc.

http://www.dailypaul.com/258853/bombshell-rod-class-gets-fou...

Also, if they took either one of them from their property, they can now be brought up on kidnapping charges. If she is not a government employee, they have ZERO jurisdiction over her or her husband.

Those sheriffs are receiving public funds but do not hold a public office as Rod Class had demonstrated FOUR times now in his Administrative rulings.

Fight the good fight; we are going to win back our freedoms one battle at a time.

Also: Do not have them hire an attorney, if they do ....

they will forfeit their right to challenge jurisdiction and will be seen as "wards of the court" (imbeciles-infants-persons of unsound minds).

An excerpt from a comment I left on the link posted above:

"On Lawyers in America:

Corpus Juris Secundum, Attorney & Client, Sec. 4, pg 802.
Who Does your Attorney Really Represent?

1. Americans appearing in American courts represented by
licensed lawyers are known to be "wards-of-the-court". See,
e.g., Corpus Juris Secundum, Attorney & Client, Sec. 2, pg 769.

Black's Law Dictionary (5th Ed., 1991) defines "wards-of-
the-court" as "infants" or "persons of unsound mind".

Your lawyer didn't explain this to
you when he took your money? Ever Wonder why?

2. "His [the attorney's] first duty is to the court, not to the
client, and wherever the duties he owes to the client
conflict with the duties he owes to the court, as an officer of
the court in the administration of justice, the former must
yield to the latter" Corpus Juris Secundum, Attorney &
Client, Sec. 4, pg 802.

Your lawyer didn't explain this to you either?

3. In the Oxford English Dictionary [600,000+ entries in 22
volumes], look up "lawyer" & "liar". After you learn why
those words are connected phonetically in English."

If they've already hired an attorney, after reading this material, they may want to reconsider. They can represent themselves; if the judge won't allow it, he is committing a felony on the bench; he is in violation of the Taft-Hartley Act ... AND ... the Smith Act, as you will see from the link I posted above.

I think Infant is self explanatory, so let me enlighten you on person(s):

http://www.freedom-school.com/office-of-the-person.pdf

And why you should never hire an attorney:

http://www.dailypaul.com/242260/this-is-why-you-should-never...

Good to have you back!

Sorry it's under these circumstances though.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Thanks for the front page.

I will bring you updates as this develops. This is probably the most important video I ever made.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Absolutely appaling!

In Sweden where I'm from police have a lot more authority than in the US. A police officer can do pretty much whatever they want in terms of arrests or searches as long as there is "suspicion". Police can also, without any explanation, order any citizen to comply with something "move over there" "stay here" etc. So all those things that you guys are afraid off like stop & search, profiling and on and on is totally legit policing here. No bill of rights or anything protecting the citizen.

Yet, I'm shocked to see how your officers always seem to use their authority to the fullest possible extent. Threatening attitude, weapons raised and ready to shoot. The force is not proportional to the "crime" often and that is a clear sign of a police state when the government just squashes any tiny resistance with overwhelming violence to deter anyone else from "trying anything funny".

Like I said, even though the police here in Sweden have more authority than in the US I would be very surprised to see something like this here. Though I shiver at the thought that every swede is at the mercy of a police officers discretion we don't have near the situation you have even though you have your constitutional rights and bill of rights.

Legal rights are not everything, the context of society is also very important in determining how things actually work out. We libertarians, if anyone, should know that it doesn't always work out the way the planners planned. Let's not forget that when it comes to your rights!

Yeah your pissed off

Yeah your pissed off neighbors can call and report you for domestic violence and the policia will show up with AR15's rough you up and sweep your house for drugs without any warrants...

If people do not wake up soon this is coming to a town or city near you. Normalcy bias is killing us. Normalcy bias = if it is not happening to me every things is fine, and if the cops showed up there and did that those folks must have done something wrong... Sigh!

Wake up and do something folks...

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70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

If the police come to your

If the police come to your door, do NOT open it unless they have a warrant and present that warrant to you! Talk to them either through the door or through a nearby window. Once the door is cracked, they can consider that you welcomed them in if you open the door.

not exactlly

You aren't welcoming them in by opening the door, but it makes it easy for them to grab you or push their way in. They don't want to leave signs of forced entry without a warrant.

I don't understand how they can get away with doing a home invasion in this case.

They caught her outside.

Remember the video is REDACTED. She had stepped out to see why there were men at the edge of her property, then turned to go back inside. That is about where the tape starts.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

No They Can't

I agree you should never open the door however opening the door does not give them lawful authority to enter the house...

There is no situation so bad the cops can't make it worse.

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

Sure they can...

Does that smell like marajuana to you? Does that look like a weapon or drugs on the coffee table? It will to them...

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

I don't know what the history of this is

The police seemed to be anticipating some kind of specific problem, perhaps the woman at the door was not free to look like she's cooperating or the persons involved in the fight not being the ones at the door. How many times have they been there before for this? The house walk-through that made sure all spaces big enough for a person were checked would seem appropriate for a number of scenarios. All kinds of shenanigans go down in a family in the honeymoon/walking on egg shells phase of keeping an abuser appeased.

Defend Liberty!

The police do not like them for being "Constitutionalists"

All the "poo-pooing" of discussions of "sovereign law" or "maritime law" and such, I always say "No, I have been to court with people and while they did not have a clear victory, SOMETHING was very different in the way the court handled them." THESE are the people. They made the Gem County courts squirm by knowing their rights too well.

There has NEVER been any form of disturbance at their home prior to this. They are middle aged, family farmers.
"Bear" is short for "Quiet Bear" - he practices shamanism. His wife is a gifted Reiki healer. There is no abuse going on here.
Please understand we only get to see 5 minutes of the encounter - the LEAST egregious 5 minutes the cops could edit together.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Clay, I am repeating your comment here.

Clay Carey submitted this comment on another thread, I want to tack it here.
The neighbor called because she did not like the way they irrigate. The cops showed up SWAT style because Bear and Marcela have had this type of victory in court. (It was not this clean, but they got the judgement they sought.)
Clay's story:

Off topic, but wanted you and others to see this and hear your opinions. I would like to add you to my e-list.

From my e-mail today:

<< I had a friend in the DP went to court yesterday on a BS public drunk charge - the cops came to his house and arrested his wife, then him. So he went to "court" and his name was called... he said - I am the living beneficiary of that estate - the judge said ok - we will take your case in 15 min... They start - she calls the STRAWMAN - he replies I am here for that matter as the living beneficiary of that estate - she again asks if he is MICHAEL P - he replies I am the living beneficiary of that estate and here for that matter if you wish to call me a name you can call me Michael. She asks him if he has the birth certificate bond for the estate? He does and hands it to the bailiff - he stands behind the bar at all times and never enters the ship - and she examines it. She then calls to prosecutor and confers with him - after 2 min she asks him how he intends to proceed... he says - NO PROSECUTORE - and she says very well - she then says STRAWMAN this case is NO PROSECUTORE and you are free to go... and Michael - you are free to go as well... WOW - this is working - you must know who you are - and how to conduct yourself in "court" and this is just the beginning...

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

I don't understand--

who made the 'domestic violence' call?

This is very confusing to me--

What are the sheriif's deputies doing in the home?

Do you know the 'real' story here?

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Yeah, I know the "real" story.

A neighbor who appointed herself in charge of irrigation schedules did not like the fact that Bear and Marcella worked out their own schedule with the other users. Bear and Marcella do not use the volume others do, they use tiny little hoses that are not enough to withstand the pressure from the pump, so they cannot irrigate unless someone else is. This is essentially a water war, with a Sheriff's department eager to make a bust. The deputies are supposedly "clearing" the house - but note they do not check the corners or closets, they sniff the ashtrays. They were looking for a grow room, and found it. However, it had nothing but vegetables.
The fight was so minor that Bear and Marcela did not think for one instant "Oh, someone called the cops about our fight." She came in from chasing chickens, snapped something at Bear, he snapped at her about her negativity, saw the irony, came over and hugged her and they got on with their day.
Please understand this is what the Sheriff's department released - about 5 minutes of a roughly 45 minute encounter. Bear is still unable to work, they roughed him up so badly. All of the farm work is now on Marcela's shoulders. There are photos on the web of Marcela's injuries. They are "minor" unless you consider how and why she got them.
Thank you for taking the time.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

so the neighbor reported the 'domestic violence'--

scary--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Please watch and forward, these are my friends.

The Police State is in my face, I am reaching out to the only community I know where support may be found. PLEASE get these videos in front of anyone you know.
If you are offended by the request for donations, please understand these people are NOT asking for money; another friend set up the paypal account on their behalf and I am providing links, so that those who wish to help financially have a direct avenue to do so. The MOST important thing is spreading awareness. PLEASE - take a few minutes to help your fellow liberty lovers in their hour of need.
Thank you.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

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