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Will You Fight In the 2nd American Revolution?

I am I will fight for the rights that were given to us the people by the founding fathers. We cant just let financial elites take over the world and create a one world government. America is looking like nazi Germany since Were getting our rights taken away and most people don't even know about it.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


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Nope. I don't fight. That is not the right word for it.

The foundering fathers didn't "fight".

They used numerous and varying guerrilla style tactics when the British and their loyalist supporters were least expecting it, totally demoralizing them.

We true Americans were considered to be barbarians. They wanted us to "fight" out in the open, so that they could identify us, and round us up. We would not.

The authoritarian enemy of liberty usually never saw it coming, and had no idea where it came from when death came to them.

This is the way it will go down eventually, if and when it comes to pass.


A book for readers on this topic


"Since reading this novel, I have read tens of thousands of pages of political thought, historical record and legal documents and have come to understand just where continued gun control is taking us...it is a place I do not wish to go."


Disclaimer for The Feds who Read This...

I am not advocating armed revolution in this post, merely expressing a 'concept'.


For all the 'peace and love' espoused by Dr. Paul and gobbled up and held tight as if a 'Linus security-blankie' by his adoring acolytes, there will almost certainly come a day when hard-men will have to wrest control of their lives and their liberties from the state, via force of arms.

If (when) this day comes, peace, love and non-violence will do nothing but get you and your circle of family and friends dead in the bottom of a slit-trench or rounded up and incarcerated.

All that being said, work, strive and advocate for peaceful transition to a liberty-protecting society, but you had better be prepared and able to switch hats to the opposite when that doesn't work and the state tightens is grip into totalitarianism...otherwise, step aside if that day arrives, because you'd merely be an obstacle and a hindrance.

Starve this beast and it will

Starve this beast and it will die without a single shot being fired. They want your money to buy bullets, you going to keep giving it to them? Find a way to stop "owing"them taxes.


At some point in the

At some point in the starvation process, all the scum have left is their superiority in arms. Then, they will press that advantage for all it is worth. Bitcoin is great, as it allows one to shift wealth and savings into a fiendishly difficult to confiscate rom, but it is not a productive asset. And regardless of how intellect aliased the economy gets, lots of alum will inevitably have to be created in physical factories from physical resources on physical land. Meaning it is fundamentally confiscatable.

So, it is highly unlikely the "starve the beast" protocol will run all he way to completion without the stockpile of arms the oppressors have amassed being put into service. They simply will not just roll over and vanish, when they have tanks and attack helicopters, while all "we" have is pop guns, and not even that in most cases.

Now, if some of the wealth siphoned away from confiscation is put to use reducing the arms discrepancy between the oppressors and us, the incentive for the oppressors to escalate to armed conflict is lessened. Which, seemingly paradoxically for those who don't know better, may well reduce the toll of armed conflict.

A competitive possible future scenario viewpoint.

"So, it is highly unlikely the "starve the beast" protocol will run all he way to completion without the stockpile of arms the oppressors have amassed being put into service"

I think it is more likely that the people I call Legal Criminals (frauds made legal) are going to being killing each other off as the ready supply of POWER from victims dries up, because the producers of power no longer allow their power to be stolen.

As the honest productive people grow more powerful, because they keep the power they make, they grow less ready to be victims, and the ready supply of victims dry up.

What does that leave the Legal Criminals who have stores of Dollars?

The former victims don't use dollars.

Who does?

I think that the Legal Criminals will begin feeding on each other, and it won't be pretty, but the way out is the way out, to disconnect from the Fraud Legal Money business, and at that moment the former victims start becoming even more capable of self-defense, in an individual sense, and in a collective, or sum total of individuals added up to a total of POWER to defend against harm.

There can be a return to a Republic, like the one that existed between 1776 and 1788, with Trial by Jury that actually worked, and meanwhile those who have existed as parasites will have only their own kind, other parasites, to feed on, and that is a quick end as The Law of Diminishing Returns takes over on them.

I think that honest productive people need to understand this, and it is easy to see, as documented fact. Just look at, for example, the Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports discovered by Walter Burien. Here is a link:


That is a record of who are the parasites, those who exist by way of fraud made legal, and there are many, many too many in that group, but as Liberty gains POWER (honest productive people no longer sending their POWER to criminals through The FED, The IRS, etc.) those former criminals who formerly had many ready victims are going to find fewer, and fewer, victims to rob, and so they will either rob each other, fight each other in robbing the diminishing number of victims, or they will have to start the day will less power and MAKE more power during the day HONESTLY.

Can you see Ben Bernanke getting a job at McDonalds?

Why not?


Ding! Ding! Ding! Here is the answer.

Planned poverty. Just in FRNs, mind you. They cannot tax what you do not earn.
Of course, most of us are conditioned to believe our personal value is measured by how much we make in FRNs, so it is something most "liberty lovers" will not do.

Oh, and "No." I won't be engaging in unnecessary violence. If the people do not wake up and change the course of history by heightened consciousness, then the people will be led into a blood bath. I want no part of that. I have been fighting for the LOVE R3volution for years, THAT is the r3volution where I am willing to fight with all I have. If TRUTH does not free people, bullets will not do it either.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Read this...

Employer's gold, silver payroll standard may bring hard time

Robert Kahre, who owns numerous construction businesses in Las Vegas, is standing trial on 57 counts of income tax evasion, tax fraud and criminal conspiracy. If convicted on most counts, he could live out his life in prison.

But attorney William Cohan paints Kahre as an American "hero" who believes his payroll system helped keep the U.S. monetary system sound, and was also a form of legal tax avoidance.


The update?

Las Vegas businessman Kahre guilty of 57 counts


Seems we have a few more people (who might sit on juries) to educate.

Meanwhile, Benjie turns the printing press on "high"

Geithner evades taxes, Obama commits treason, and Corzine who is guilty as sin for DELIBERATELY stealing ...all walk free.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Examples of battles in Liberty

E-Gold involved an aggressive, false, attack by criminals in government.

The Liberty Dollar involved the same thing.

PayPal was sold and taken over by people who turned it from what it was (competitive) to what it is now (less competitive), PayPal was incorporated into the Monopoly.

Bitcoin is a new competitor.

Utah State is now making Gold and Silver Legal.

Whiskey was a competitor in money markets, George Washington and Alexander Hamilton taxed and then crushed that competitor.

Later the home grown alcohol producers were again threatening the monopoly, and that inspired the so called "Prohibition".

Hemp was a competitor in many areas, causing that example of "prohibition".

How about this:


"At this point, the Austrian Central Bank panicked, and decided to assert its monopoly rights by banning complimentary currencies. The people successfully sued the Bank, but later lost in the Austrian Supreme Court. It then became a criminal offence to issue 'emergency currency'."

Gold was confiscated by Roosevelt.


Yes there is a battle over control of money.


And Trial by Jury works when enough people know enough about how it is designed to work. Trial by Jury is supposed to be "due process" due every single person. Due process, with Trial by Jury, is supposed to be based upon sortition, or random picking of juries, so as to have a representative sample of the whole body of The People.

If people know better, about Trial by Jury, about the Money Power Legal Crime Business (The FED), and if enough people know better about the Legal Extortion Business (The IRS), then anyone being convicted of a FALSE crime such as "using a competitive money" or failing to pay the extortion fee, then all it takes is one, ONE, Friend of Liberty, randomly picked from the entire population, to set that person who is presumed to be innocent FREE from harm by runaway criminal government.


Basic common sense

Accurate measures of reality.

If crime made legal (fraud and extortion) pays well, then the number of workers in that business will grow.

Stop making crime made legal pay so well, and the number of workers in that business will decline.

Make crime made legal pay nothing, and there won't be any more workers in that business.

So who is in the business?

Those who pay, and those who take the pay.


Alas. Now you see.

You cannot break your bonds by violence because too many have been brainwashed into thinking that violence solves nothing. Yet life and history prove otherwise and it is those who keep their power through violence who keep repeating the mantra that violence solves nothing.

Confessions of a Monopolist?

"You cannot break your bonds by violence because too many have been brainwashed into thinking that violence solves nothing. Yet life and history prove otherwise and it is those who keep their power through violence who keep repeating the mantra that violence solves nothing."

"keep their power through violence"

Please consider the concept of bait and switch as a form of deceit.

Remove all the talk about violence before and after these words "keep their power through violence" and focus on those words that confess.

Who lives by this code: "keep their power through violence"?

Who, on the other hand, begins the day with less power and ends the day with more power, and during the day that person never does this: "keep their power through violence"?

In context:

If honest productive people are those people who produce anything, and anything worth stealing ("keep their power through violence"), are able, those honest productive people are able to avoid people who "keep their power through violence", then those people, those honest productive people, are by that measure more powerful than the people who "keep their power through violence".

How, exactly, do the honest, productive people avoid having their power stolen from them, as those honest productive people are the actual ones who produce anything worth stealing, anything produced, any power at all, any powerful economic measure of power, or wealth, or surplus wealth, or savings, or earnings, or anything worth stealing, anything, how do those honest productive people avoid people who live by this code: "keep their power through violence"?

How can an honest productive person avoid having their earnings, their profits, their productive measure of economic POWER stolen from them?

Become criminals before the criminals can steal from us?

Steal from other people before other people can steal from us?

How much does that MO (method of operation) cost, and who pays the bill for those costs to work that way?

Which way?

This way:

"keep their power through violence"

Not this way:

Produce more power out of less power peacefully, honestly, equitably, through division of labor, economies of scale, specialization, and utilizing efficient tools like accurate money.

So, how can the honest productive people avoid becoming victims and avoid becoming criminals?

It may help to stop paying the criminals so well, because the criminals convince the victims that "we are all in this together", "we merry bunch of fellow criminals", so pay, obey, and don't question the validity of this:

"keep their power through violence"

We will keep our power through violence, and it will only cost you your life, liberty, and happiness.

Pay, obey, and don't question the authority of paying, obeying, and not questioning the authority of keeping our power through violence.

That is a confession of Evil.

Power has to be produced or there is nothing to steal, and the Evil people know this, so the Evil people have a problem, they have to let the victims work in peace long enough for the victims to produce something worth stealing.

When the victims produce something worth stealing, then the criminals find a way to steal some of that POWER, and The FED/The IRS/Military serves that function.

Replace The FED/The IRS/The Military with a good example of government, a voluntary example, instead of the evil version, instead of the false version, and what happens?

You don't know?

You would rather be misdirected by someone's regurgitation of a lie, in the form of a sound bite such as this:

"You cannot break your bonds by violence because too many have been brainwashed into thinking that violence solves nothing. Yet life and history prove otherwise and it is those who keep their power through violence who keep repeating the mantra that violence solves nothing."

If the honest productive people stop paying the criminals so well, for each victims slaughtered, what do you think will happen?

If the victims merely stop paying the criminals so well, what do you think will happen?

There is a precedent for this very question.

Here is a historical precedent recorded in our own American History:


"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer."

When the honest productive people stopped being victims the Evil people sent the largest Army on the Planet into that Country of Liberated Slaves to Subject those Subjects to further examples of this:

"keep their power through violence"

The British wanted to "keep their power through violence".

They failed.

Unfortunately the Liberated People remained Liberated only up to the year 1788, and then the new Bosses, same as the old Bosses, did this:

"keep their power through violence"

Knowing how The People managed to become Liberated from The British, despite being invaded by the largest aggressive army for profit on the planet at that time, may be lessons worth knowing instead of this:

"You cannot break your bonds by violence because too many have been brainwashed into thinking that violence solves nothing. Yet life and history prove otherwise and it is those who keep their power through violence who keep repeating the mantra that violence solves nothing."

In between 1776 and 1788 was a time when competition was not against the law.

The British outlawed competition and intended to enforce that "law" with this method:

"keep their power through violence"

The Rebels knew how to compete, and they won, defensively, making more power out of less power, not this:

"keep their power through violence"

Which POWER?

Who makes the POWER that is supposedly kept by them in "keep their power through violence"?

Only in Liberty, where it exists, and when it exists, can people cooperate and produce more power out of less power, and that is the POWER kept by honest productive people in Liberty.

How do you keep the power of Liberty?

If there is no one stealing POWER, then there will be more POWER to steal, and if there is one, and only one, person stealing POWER, then those honest people in Liberty will either expend some defensive POWER to avoid that one criminal, at a cost, paid by the productive people, to avoid that one criminal, or that one criminal may become two criminals, if crime pays well enough.

What is crime?

What is this:

"keep their power through violence"

How about spelling it out in detail?

The time between 1776 and 1788 involved a voluntary agreement to invent, produce, and maintain voluntary government experiments called towns, cities, and States, where people could move freely from one to another, and during that time there was a method by which criminals were discovered, tried, and then the costs of dealing with those criminals were paid by those criminals according to the people who employed this method. This method was called Trial by Jury. The States were experiments in Liberty whereby each State was limited by a Constitution and many Constitutional Experiments had Bills of Rights attached to those Limited Governments called States.

When faced with an army of criminals, from England, the employees running the States, some who were good people, some who were evil people, but all in agreement, decided to form a Democratic Federated Republic or Confederation of States, so as to combine all the defensive power commanded by all The People into one defensive POWER, which was sufficiently capable of driving the aggressive army of war for profit out of this Country, preserving Liberty, and preserving Trial by Jury, and preserving honest productive employment of scarce power in the necessary work required to produce surplus wealth.

That worked well until 1788.

No central bank. No direct taxation by a single government POWER over everyone. No aggressive wars for profit MONOPOLY POWER.

Slaves able to find sanctuary in places where the Constitutionally Limited Governments in one State are not run by criminals as much as another State.

No Monopoly Legal Power, not before 1788, claiming that slavery is legal.

Details, not knee jerking sound bites of counterfeit wisdom, may be a good idea.

"keep their power through violence"

What does the author of that claim actually mean?

Defensive Power sufficient to DETER violence must be produced and kept, or defensive violence will be necessary in situations where Defensive Power is not yet sufficient to DETER violence.

The same lie invented, produced, and maintained by every criminal who ever polluted the human gene pool.

Detailed explanation of the actual meaning, as if the person writing the words was interested in competitive discussion concerning vital questions and needed answers to current human problems.


You talk a lot and say nothing.

So thanks for your nothing. Those who rule over you do so by violence while telling you that violence solves nothing.

The truth is simple and requires few words. Those that blabber on and on are usually trying to hide the truth.

Round 2?

"Those who rule over you do so by violence while telling you that violence solves nothing."

False people typically contradiction themselves in one sentence, and the above is as good an example as any I've seen.

Violent people teach by example.

Here are more words on that subject (for those who like to read, and not for those who prefer sound bites):


"We shall be told: what can literature possibly do against the ruthless onslaught of open violence? But let us not forget that violence does not live alone and is not capable of living alone: it is necessarily interwoven with falsehood. Between them lies the most intimate, the deepest of natural bonds. Violence finds its only refuge in falsehood, falsehood its only support in violence. Any man who has once acclaimed violence as his METHOD must inexorably choose falsehood as his PRINCIPLE. At its birth violence acts openly and even with pride. But no sooner does it become strong, firmly established, than it senses the rarefaction of the air around it and it cannot continue to exist without descending into a fog of lies, clothing them in sweet talk. It does not always, not necessarily, openly throttle the throat, more often it demands from its subjects only an oath of allegiance to falsehood, only complicity in falsehood."

A question can be answered in Round 3, by the opposition.

Does the opposition to Liberty make aggressive violence only legal for their number to perpetrate while making aggressive violence a crime for anyone other then their number to perpetrate?

I think that the question is on-topic and worthy of reasonable discussion. Those who are willing to resort to violence are easily understandable as being those who are as willing to resort to deceit.


The simple act of being here shows that we are all actively

fighting the second American revolution. Not a revolution of guns and bombs, but a revolution of ideas. I think we are all far to educated in the activities of the globalists to allow violence, when we have the natural law on our side. Violence should only be used in self defense, and to protect ones self against tyranny against their constitution, which empowers us all and gives us the right to use force against force. There may well be a day when actions taken by the globalists must be defended against, and I pray it is not a defense via violence, but rather intellectual arguments made.

The issue is, if they act against a group that is a clear violation of the constitution, then the people are well within their rights to protect themselves and their families against such tyranny, but an offensive move is what they want, even if they have to create a false flag to sell the need to round us up. If everyone ignored their unconstitutional actions, and acted as if they were null and void upon their inception, then they would loose all power. Dr. Paul will lead us and show us the way for a peaceful revolution of minds instead of violence, as violence is the only tactic the enemy is proficient in, as we have seen thinking and respect for the constitution is not one of their strong suits.

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

Wonderfully Written, Thank You

We must exhibit commonsense, careful analysis, objective thought and respond with passionate discourse. We must always be resolute in defense of our liberties because freedom isn't free.

If it divides it confesses.

If it seeks destruction it confesses.

If it is hateful it confesses.

If it is aggressive it confesses.

But most importantly: if it omits or in any way deceives then it confesses while hiding the confession.

I read the post by the OP.

I read most of the responses to date.

I looked at most of the video linked.

The people seeking this Violent Revolution ARE the criminals.

The people seeking aggressive violence are the criminals.

How can you know, anyone, when their speeches are so contagious and gaining so much currency these days?

How can you know: better?

Please consider taking Ron Paul's message to heart, and find at least 3 workable things that could move from where we are as a Country of many people OUTSIDE of Liberty, from that measurable Despotism, move from Crime made Legal, and move INTO Liberty, and can we do so peacefully, without hate, without deception, without omission, without aggressive violence, and without becoming that which we supposedly abhor?

How about at least 3 things that are common sense things that anyone, all on their own, can participate in, to turn their own power from wrong to right?

End the FED.
There needs to be no storming of the gates like an angry mob looking for supposed "Elites". In the first place the FED is the POSTER BOYS of Welfare. Whenever you get angry at a welfare recipient, anyone collecting their personal government pay, for doing nothing or worse, then focus your attention on the Welfare Mamas and Papas that collect more welfare money than everyone else combined whenever they feel like writing their own Welfare check to themselves.
The FED is the biggest Welfare Collection Agency in the world. Ben Bernanke is the biggest Welfare momma in the world, on record.
If you want to do something to move from where this Country is, in a Welfare State, move from that sorry condition of abject stupidity, then move in a positive direction, and do not jump out of the pan into the fire (lake of fire for those who are spiritually knowledgeable), move easily, thoughtfully, carefully, peacefully, reasonably, from The Federal Reserve Note Currency to something that isn't fraudulent, and you can't say, without being ignorant, or without lying, that there are no alternatives to "accepting" Federal Reserve Notes.
Each person has to take it upon themselves to look for peaceful alternatives, and that has to be done by a certain time and day, not forever moved to a date in the never arriving future.

End the IRS
The Falsely named and criminally "enforced" Internal Revenue Service is a necessary part of the Communist Type (Monopoly Nation State, or Fascist State) Criminal Government because the Direct Tax is the method of making the Monopoly Money Current. The IRS demands Federal Reserve Notes for payments of "taxes" whereby those "taxes" are in fact extortion payments made by the victims to the victors. End the FED and there is no more IRS. The IRS demands Federal Reserve Notes, so use your brain for something other than a hat rack, and understand that the FED and the IRS are two heads on one Beast. Stop using Federal Reserve Notes, because you use something better, and then the IRS can't use you for anything, since you have no Federal Reserve Notes in your account.

Bring the Troops Home.
You can't expect to live in Liberty if you keep dressing up in uniforms that cover up the fact that each soldier is being abused by very bad criminals who send well meaning, or poorly paid, or in some cases very evil meaning, and very high paid (mercenaries), off to places where innocent people are being slaughtered for natural resources and CONTROL of strategic areas, in preparation for World War III, which serves only those few people who profit from World Wars.
You can't expect to live in Liberty if you dress up your children in those same uniforms that are now being used to cover up very evil aggressive violence for profit.
You won't have to bring the Troops Home, if you don't join the club of evil people, who hide behind the False Fronts that are now so very apparently false, such as:

Spreading Democracy
The War on Terror
Enhanced Interrogation Techniques
Fighting them over there, so as to not have to fight them over here.
Extraordinary Rendition
Quantitative Easing

The long list of lies will grow exponentially longer if you join in on the invention, production, and maintenance of that very thin veil of a False Front that may soon be only "believed" by the worst criminals ever to walk the Earth, and if you don't look in the mirror to find those criminals first, then God help us.

Point by point:

"I am I will fight for the rights that were given to us the people by the founding fathers."

The Funding Fathers were at least 2 groups. One group was very well represented by Alexander Hamilton who is the same type of person as Ben Bernanke or Henry Kissinger. Hamilton demanded a National Debt and Direct Taxation of every sovereign person OWNED by his type. The other half of the Founding Fathers is represented by Patrick Henry who was quoted as saying "I smell a Rat", when the other "founders" were seeking their Consolidated Government POWER.

The Evil half of the Founding Fathers give and take away "rights" as they take the power to do so from every person they can, every person who isn't smart enough to know better, like Patrick Henry.

The good half of the Founding Fathers know that there is no man on earth, except criminals, who think that rights can be given or taken away by one man, or one well organized group of men, UPON any innocent person. Criminals give up Legal rights, when they become criminals, even if they do so from positions of counterfeit authority.

So...beware of Greeks bearing gifts of "rights" or "National Credit", because they are liars, they are thieves, and they will torture and mass murder the innocent if you let them; certainly if you pay them very well for each victim slaughtered.

"We cant just let financial elites take over the world and create a one world government."

That is very false. In the first place the criminals who have stolen most the the wealth in the world are not "elite", not if English coveys accurate meaning.

Here is a quick look at some synonyms for the English word "Elite":

aristocratic, choice, cool*, crack*, elect, exclusive, gilt-edged, greatest, noble, out of sight, out of this world, pick, selected, super, tip-top, top, top drawer, top-notch, topflight, upper-class, world-class

Criminals are evil. Calling criminals with words like "Elite" is false. Creating False Fronts to cover up Evil people is an Evil invention, an Evil production, and an Evil routine used by Evil people. Why would anyone play that game if they are not Evil too?

The people who torture and mass murder millions of innocent victims so as to steal the power that is made by honest productive people, and then use the power stolen to steal more, are people who are Evil. People who are Evil are not "Elite" unless you are as Evil as any other Evil person, excepting the fact that you are not as Evil as the most Evil person, you are a lesser Evil, and there are greater Evil people above you, you are a minion on the Evil scale, as there are, by that measure, "Elite" Evil people above you.


"We cant just let financial elites take over the world and create a one world government."

The biggest lie made by these Evil people may not be obvious, but one obvious lie is meant to cover up the fact that there is a One World Government already existing.

The Dollar Hegemony, or the World Reserve Currency, are words.

The United Nations, or the World Bank, or the International Monetary Fund, are words.

Admiralty Law are words.

What do those words mean, in real terms, or in terms that cover all the people involved with thoughts and actions that constitute the true reality of those words listed above?

Those words, like The International Monetary Fund, constitute a One Word Government or New World Order IN FACT.

A common practice among the Worst of the Evil people, who are only "Elite" from an Evil scale of measure, is to perpetrate crimes, having those crimes already in progress, and then to fool the victims into thinking that the crimes that are current are crimes that may someday happen in the future.

"America is looking like nazi Germany since Were getting our rights taken away and most people don't even know about it."

Here is where the peaceful solutions, enumerated above, as End the FED, End the IRS, and Bring the Troops Home, are easy to see, obvious, and accurately measurable CURRENT FACTS known by everyone with a working brain and a working human conscience.

End the FED

Look in your wallet.
Look in your savings account.
Look in your checking account.
Look in your retirement account.
Look on your pay check.
Look on your tax forms.

What do you see?

You are IN a crime in progress. Each Federal Reserve Note that you have WILL be rendered less valuable as time goes by, because the money you use is fraudulent money. The criminals at The FED can write themselves another check today, this afternoon, that is as much money as everyone else combined, and then they spend that check, and when they do that, again, and again, your money is half as valuable. It is a crime in progress. All you have to do to stop being a victim is to use a different money whereby the difference is that the money you choose, IN LIBERTY, isn't fraudulent.

End the IRS

You use a different money, IN LIBERTY, then the IRS is moot. The IRS demands Fraudulent Money as payment of all "debts public and private". You have to say no, no thanks, I prefer honest money, but thanks anyway. You think this is too simple? You prefer the complexity of fraud? You and what army are going to make me a victim?
Stop being criminals and guess what happens?

Bring the Troops Home

OK, so, look at that last chore on the long laundry list of things to be done to move from Abject Belief in Falsehood without Question, and move instead, by choice, peacefully, moving INTO LIBERTY, look at that last thing to do, to do by a certain date in the real future, and then compare that to this:

"America is looking like nazi Germany since Were getting our rights taken away and most people don't even know about it."

Ask one of the Soldiers currently serving in the American Military Forces, a few personal questions such as:

Why are so many suicides ending so many lives in the U.S. (corporate) Military these days?

Why did so many Military men and women in the Modern American Military Forces SUPPORT and DEFEND Ron Paul?

Will you learn something if you ask enough people in the Military whereby you can then be well informed as to how "America is looking like nazi Germany", and how "we" can move in the other direction instead?

Does violence solve the problem of too many people being fooled into using aggressive, hateful, destructive, violence as a means of solving problems?

Defensive violence may be needed, but finding out why it is needed, before it is needed, is the path that uncovers the competitive options.

If, to YOU, aggressive violence is better, then that is an Elite solution to you, call it the Final Solution, the best, to YOU.

If, to YOU, no violence is better, then those "Elites" are not in any way "Elite", they are criminals, and it may be a good idea to stop paying them so well for torture and mass murder for profit, since your piece of the action is dwindling down into the negative, because that version of an "Elite Final Solution", to any problem, is a case of the Natural Law known as diminishing returns, as the honest productive people are consumed in the frenzy where rats eat rats in that race to the bottom.

I remember a bed sheet seen in one of the movies smuggled out of the Massacre at Waco, these poor innocent Church goers suffering torture and mass murder, live on Television, one of the first in a long series of new Entertainment products, now known as Reality Television, and written on the bed sheet were these words:

You are Next.



I already am!

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

The Arab so called Spring

The Arab so called Spring have definitely shown that fighting does work, as long as it is pursued vigorously enough. We're no longer suck with Somalia as the Bly example. Even in Syria, where Assad were seemingly untouchable, the oppressors looks to be falling. And will likely be replaced by nothing particularly permanent, as is the case in Egypt and Libya. As I've been predicting for at least a decade, Mogadishu in the 90s is inevitable anywhere. Sooner or later, even the most thoroughly well indict acted progressive drones, will realize they are not only getting the short end of the stick, but do in fact have the ability to redress this. And then the fun begins......

Also, looking at the pioneers, the Somalis, it is encouraging to see that even after two decades of the "international community" trying to force a bunch of government scum n them, they are still managing to stay relatively unencumbered by that particular evil. And Egypt looks to be evolving the same way, no matter how much idiots at Fox News and elsewhere pine for a "strong military leader" or an "elected something" appoint himself ruler.

With some luck, perhaps we'll get to experience a similar "American spring" in our lifetime. With a similar outcome.

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I advocate UTTER violence against the banksters with WHAT HURTS

I advocate UTTER violence against the banksters with WHAT HURTS MORE THAN FISTS, KNIVES, GUNS, OR BOMBS ...


The People FINALLY getting their hands ON THE REAL MONEY :




For Liberty. And YOUR Safety, and Prosperity.


"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Violent revolution is so last

Violent revolution is so last Mayan calendar!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

We have chosen to follow the path of Dr. Paul

that is: to live what we believe, to not use force to regain our liberty, and to educate people concerning what liberty really is. We still live in a Representative Republic (even if only on parchment), and will defend it by our words, our votes, and by petition for redress of grievances. Peaceful Civil Disobedience may also be used, if the other means fail. Those are our means.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

deacon's picture

i chose my own path

Ron Paul just happens to line up with my views
but it is my path, just as is yours is not mine
but all lead in the same direction

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Why don't you call me?

Let's have a chat about this subject shall we? Send me a private message. I honestly want to talk to you about what you do for a living. Anything for money right? You would sell out your own countrymen for money...

As long as that paycheck keeps coming in you will do whatever you are told. This is just Sooooo creepy. We just MUST find all of the people who are prepared to stand up for their rights.

Who among you will not KNEEL before your NEW GOD? The STATE!!!

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check out the posts


If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Can't tell if the OP is trolling, or serious

Violence only begets violence. It is not the answer.

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." -Martin Luther King Jr

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

Just curious?

What part of a "Peaceful" revolution of "Love" do you not understand?

Your agenda here is one "trick" minded and very obvious. Did you not read the very first line in the header of this site? " Dedicated to restoring Constitutional government to the United States of America "

Inciting a riot is one of the very few "Crimes" listed in the very Constitution it's self. Have you read it? It is Constitutionally a crime to riot.

Please quit trying to bait us into the discussion of violence.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Hi ATP. How's it going? No

Hi ATP. How's it going? No see long time!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

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You should build on this idea

and make it a post!!! Good idea good sir

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson