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Open Thread: Free & Equal Third Party Debate

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  • Grand Illusion: The Myth of Voter Choice in a Two-Party Tyranny - Including a letter of support by Ron Paul
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    She runs on the free-dom platform

    It's time we provide free college education for everyone. Obamacare doesn't go far enough. We need free healthcare for everyone. While we are at it, every american should have the right to a modest size home, for free of course. All wants and needs will be provided for. Just legislate them all to be free.

    We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.

    -C. S. Lewis

    Wow GJ just quoted me...

    I say that all the time when people tell me I'm wasting my vote.

    "You only waste your vote when you vote for someone you don't believe in".

    Thanks!

    GJ and his running mate Judge Jim Gray say it every day

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    sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
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    Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

    GARY JOHNSON

    KILLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Don't agree with him on all the issues..but that man is a man to be trusted..

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    KaBoom: Gary Johnson just hit a home run.

    Great closing statement.

    Larry King Has Earned My Respect For What He's Done Tonight

    It's a great thing he's done here.

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    "Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

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    He has done a great NEUTRAL job.

    Agree 100%!

    Closing statements

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    allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

    Stein is actually right, term

    Stein is actually right, term limits would not do anything....strike out the 16th amendment instead!

    YES!

    Term Limits = Meaningless. If a person is doing good, we want him in office, not replaced by some corporate shill!

    "Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

    Educate the masses, and win in the end.

    Exactly, the president has

    Exactly, the president has term limits, what good has that done over the past 100 years?

    I believe the point of term

    I believe the point of term limits is to prevent us from getting a dictator, or someone like Silvio Berlusconi.

    If a Mussolini gets into

    If a Mussolini gets into office, he will change the laws to make himself permanent, it makes no difference, dictators do NOT follow the law to begin with....that's why term limits are bunk.

    And any and all

    And any and all constitutional amendments. The only thing the constitution is good for is pointing out that the government doesn't bother to follow its own laws.

    I think term limits should

    I think term limits should apply to every national office. The Congress and the Senate are full of people who are way past their expiration dates.

    Jill Stein

    Good Amendment, what was Goode's Amendment again?

    "Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

    Educate the masses, and win in the end.

    The one thing I agreed with her on

    Great lady, heart is in a good place, I have a lot of respect for her and like her

    And TOTALLY disagree with 99% of what she's advocating for lol

    However:

    - Corporations are not people

    - Money is not speech

    Totally 100% support this. Much more critical than term limits imo.

    And way easier to get passed and ratified

    I'm sorry, but I disagree.

    I'm sorry, but I disagree. Corporations are not literally people, but they represent the interests of people. Also, money IS a form of exercising one's freedom of speech. The problem now is that the potential for a foreign-owned US entity to pour money into causes that benefit them politically. I guess it's an acknowledgement that "money IS everything" and people don't like that. Well, I have some bad news... Money IS everything and that would be the same under any president you could imagine. Money, power, influence... these things will always drive politics and societies into whatever societies exist thousands of years from now.

    Term limits...

    so that political workers work for America!

    Ron/Rand Paul 2016! Constitution Party 2016!

    How?

    I've never got this argument. How will people suddenly do good for anyone just because they are limited by time? Wouldn't it be better if more good people ran for office in the first place?

    "Good" is a matter of

    "Good" is a matter of perspective.

    Term limits now...

    Virgil Goode yes! Gary took it from Goode.

    Ron/Rand Paul 2016! Constitution Party 2016!

    now that sad debate

    now that sad debate

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    MUCH much better than

    R&D tax-guzzling pony shows.

    I was only refering to the

    I was only refering to the hashtag

    No one else is going to say it?

    That women next to Larry king is very attractive....and for a better election process.

    What?! No 'Free Bananas'?!

    haha

    That was funny, but also obnoxious. and nothing is free. Not even bananas. Even if you live on a tropical island

    Rocky trying to control America...

    constitutional amendment for "equality".

    Ron/Rand Paul 2016! Constitution Party 2016!

    LMAO

    Gary just name dropped! Love it! Smart move!