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My final decision: Gary Johnson for President of the United States

After weeks of arguing with myself on whether to write-in Ron Paul or vote for Gary Johnson, I came to a decision I can live with.

Since I wanted my vote to count (in WA State), and since I wanted to send a message to the 2-party strangle-hold on the American political process, I concluded a vote for the Libertarians was the best option.

But in one last attempt to vote for Dr. Paul, I spoke with Washington State's Secretary of State office to see how they handle write-ins.

Even if a candidate registers here (which Dr. Paul didn't do), they will not even look at write-in names unless they feel they might affect the outcome of the election.

And even if they DO count them, they won't publish the actual names unless a write-in candidate were to miraculously win.

As much as I wanted to write in Dr. Paul, I felt it was more important to support a viable candidate, who was on the ballot in the most states, and who I liked well enough to vote for.

We all know Gary Johnson is not Ron Paul (but then who IS other than Dr. Paul himself?!).

But Johnson has said on more than than one occasion that his hero is Ron Paul (he said it again in the 3rd party dabates).

There is no doubt that the Libertarian Party would have welcomed Dr. Paul with open arms as their candidate.

Top that off with Ron having stated recently that Gary Johnson is a "wonderful candidate who everyone should take a look at."

So in the end, I felt the very best use of my vote (even after years of supporting the Ron Paul campaign with my money, time and effort), was to choose Gary Johnson.

Ever since seeing all the cheating done by the republicans this entire campaign season, I have promised that "I'll Remember In November" and remember I did.


Gary Johnson 2012!!!

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"Losing more" to whom...or

"Losing more" to whom...or what?

In case you forgot, Ron isn't running. Gary continues to run.

ron paul supporter here so

ron paul supporter here so glad for you:) Gary Johnson over Obamney.

Ron Paul 2016


has my vote.

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our Liberty. -Thomas Jefferson

2 more for GJ in NM!

...my wife and I early voted yesterday here in NM....

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
- President John F. Kennedy

I'm voting for Gary Johnson

I'm voting for Gary Johnson as well. I commend you on your thoughtful consideration before making a decision.


Happy Libertarian


I'm voting Gary Johnson because it is the most productive way to spread the message of liberty this general election. Its about the message of liberty, not the man spreading it. However, I do think RP has a much better understanding of the message, but his write-in votes will count for nothing outside of personal satisfaction. Votes for GJ will be counted and if there are enough the Libertarian party will be rewarded with campaign funds and ballot access. That's productive.

Ron Paul agrees. Vote 3rd party & increase the competition!

In September 2008 Ron Paul held a press conference to emphasize the importance of voting for a 3rd party candidate, when that candidate's views most closely align with your own.

In contrast, he discouraged supporters from writing in his name. http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/21556.html



He says nice things.. isn't this a Ron Paul forum? GJ doesn't even remotely compare to Ron Paul. Why are you guys so distracted?

a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat


from what exactly? I'm curious.

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our Liberty. -Thomas Jefferson

I'm voting for Gary Johnson for sure

No doubt

Money well spent

A little bit of government spending to fund the effort to MASSIVELY SLASH government spending, this is what you complain about? Talk about not choosing your battles wisely.

Why Vote?

It's rigged so why bother? Voting isn't the way out of the mess we are in. Even if Gary won we would never know it. Look how blatantly they screwed us with Ron Paul. What makes anyone here think they wouldn't do the same with Gary J? We have to change the SYSTEM. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over (ie voting) and expecting a different outcome.


Another Defeatist Loser

I'm tired of hearing this defeatist argument. The USA is a constitutional republic; meaning we elect represenatives to protect our constitutional rights. Voting is a pilar of our once great nation. Voting is the only way for peaceful reform. This corrupt government didn't come out of nowhere, it was voted in over time. IT CAN BE VOTED OUT OVER TIME. Dropping out of voting all together is a sissy move. It takes 10 minutes to vote. Get off your lazy ass. There are plenty of candidates outside the status quo that are worthy of a vote. Start voting for them and encouring others to do the same.

Go Watch

"Hacking Democracy" and get back to me on it. I am not lazy and have voted every election since I was old enough to vote. I also am not a loser. I am simply AWARE of the fact that we have to change the system from the bottom up. Not the top down. It's too corrupt. Didn't you see what happened at the RNC and DNC? I don't understand how you think we can just keep doing the same thing by trying to vote someone in when tptb keep cheating. Would you keep playing poker with someone you knew was cheating you with every hand? The strategy had to change. I have more hope in the youth that Ron Paul has awakened than I do with this stupid "election"


Easy to Cheat a Minority

I'm well aware of the voting fraud. These things are bound to happen in any man made system, but its easy to cheat a minority. It is NOT easy to cheat an overwhelming majority. And guess what? We do NOT have an overwhelming majority. First, let's get that majority and then see what happens in the election process. If they manage to rig it then, then I will agree with you, but at that point it won't matter because the next logical step would be civil war. By not voting now, you are quiting way too early. Changing things from the bottom up does not mean abandoning the vote. You have no other mechanism for peaceful reform other than the vote! If you have lost all faith in the voting process, then you better start preparing for war because that's your only other option! Are you doing that? I bet not. As for the poker analogy, its a poor one because I'm not losing a damn thing by taking 10 minutes to vote.

Have you seen the interview with Greg Palast?

MILLIONS of votes just disappeared last election. Our votes don't count, LITERALLY! I see where you are coming from but the only way to get a majority is to change the way people think! Why do you think Rockefeller took over the school systems decades ago? For CONTROL of how people view the world and the system. I have my faith in the youth that Ron Paul is educating. I just hope they have time.


I agree that people need to

I agree that people need to change the way they think. I never disagreed with you there. But in addition to that, there's needs to be action, and that includes voting. Let them erase the votes, if we have a majority; it will be that much more obvious and there will be a revolt.

Why Post? It doesn't change

Why Post? It doesn't change anything so why bother?

What's your plan for "changing the SYSTEM" skippy? Does it start with "not voting", that's a great idea, it will really make the SYSTEM stand up and take notice. Just like the wide majority of people who don't vote or even register to vote anymore, they've really been fighting the SYSTEM for a couple decades now with their "not voting" strategy. The SYSTEM is really on the ropes because of them "non-voters".

Something about "doing the same thing over and over...", what was that?

And the Saying "Doing the Same Thing

over and over again is a quote from Einstein.


Even Ron Paul

said that you can't vote your way out of this mess. He also said that the best way to change things is by educating as many people as possible. I think it's going to take an awakening of the public to make it happen. I post a lot of links on yahoo that would teach people if they only take the time to check them out. I can only hope that doing so will help wake people up.



Educate and then DO WHAT? Hold hands? Talk about it? Sing kumbaya around a campfire? The answer is to educate the masses AND get them to vote accordingly. You can do all the educating you want but with no mechanism for reform, it will be useless. The mechanism for peaceful reform is voting. Stop critizing voting.

I Try to Think Outside the Box

The box being the system the way it is run. I'm still for voting but I think it's pointless until you educate the masses FIRST. Don't you think it's more important to take back our states, our schools, our courts etc so that we CAN educate the masses? This country was screwed up by infiltration. Let's infiltrate it back.


I agree with you that

I agree with you that education is critical. Just make sure when you are educating others that you give them a solution. That solution should include, but not limited to, voting a certain way.

I agree with you there

If people are educated on how things really are then they will be more likely to vote in favor of freedom, the constitution etc. They need to know they are being used and abused. Most people I know have the feeling something is terrible wrong but they don't know what or how to fix it. THEY NEED TO KNOW! See where I am coming from? Ron Paul lit a fire and those of us who are awake need to fan those flames!


Vote with action

Voting is a rigged process which will never allow for a third party candidate to win or have their views (be they libertarian, socialist, etc) expressed and put into practice in a large forum. The only way "voting" might matter is on a local scale with a informed populace. Any other meaningful attempt at enactment change through voting is idiocy.

1.) Get off the grid.
2.) Produce your own food, water, and energy.
3.) Associate with like-minded people.

THAT is how you make TPTB quake in their boots..

“Facts don’t cease to exist because they are ignored.” – Aldous Huxley


The election process is not the problem. Damnit! ITS THE PEOPLE. The people are ignorant, but that doesn't mean you should give up on voting. You lead by example by voting a certain way AND teaching others. If we had the majority, they would not be able to pull these shenanagins! The fact is we don't have a majority! We need to do a better job of teaching others. Voting is the only way for peaceful reform. Nothing else, besides civil war, has a chance at making a change.

So let's make it as easy as possible for the establishment

by not voting at all so that they don't even have to TRY to suppress us. That's exactly what they want.

GJ-2012, RP-2016

I completely agree that by not voting they win and by voting for Gary Johnson we at least help in the 2016 campaign as well as get some of RP's beliefs into play.
And to the haters about GJ on DP, you have to understand that allot of these folks ARE Ron Paul supporters but they just want to do the most damage to the R/Ds. And this is the best place to do just that. By seeing what other Ron Paul supporters are going to do. Keeping in mind that no one is telling you what to do... But to be aware of others. Peace! Great! Not Matt Larson has me saying Peace at the end...;-)

I love Johnson too but....

I hate Obama more. And, while it's unfortunate, a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama. Sorry folks, but I love my country more than I love Johnson, so I have no choice but to vote for Romney.


I am confident that GJ will continue on as RP has done ie. his hero, to keep spreading the message to college campuses and arenas, etc. in the new year and beyond.

I believe he is a fighter like RP and being in such exceptional physical condition as he has stated there will be plenty of fight and endurance in him to continue on.