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The Least of Three Evils

Like you, I've certainly heard this 'lesser of two evils' argument time and again. And speaking as a person who doesn't own a tv, who barely owns a computer with reliable internet access, I STILL am barely able to avoid these so-called debates, let alone the incessant political advertisements.

Oh, the ads.

Let it not be said that we weren't warned of the evils committed by those who would represent us...

So a natural question arises: Is there a third choice? Is there a third political party? Is there a third, somewhat lesser evil for me to choose, a lesser evil than these 2 obvious evils, Obama and Romney?

I believe there is. I believe the least of the 3 evils is named Johnson. And I believe that, though he is undoubtedly evil, he is the least of the 3 evils presented to us, and therefore worthy of my vote.

How do I know he is evil?

Simple. He is human.

TBC...




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Well, yes and kinda.

Then you could say Ron Paul is evil too...BUT he is a believer...that's what drives his heart and mind.

I can definately live with that...wish I could write him in.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
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Romney is the greatest of all threats to Liberty

There is no doubt that Romney is the greatest threat to Liberty that this country has ever seen, which is quite a feat considering the current and former president...

Romney is an inherently evil and vile person, that only lusts for power and control. I believe he would usher in an age of totalitarianism and war that hasn't been witnessed since Hitler or Stalin.

I think whoever you vote for, just make sure Romney is not one of the choices...

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

8 years opposed to 4

Our Republic can't afford 8 years, let alone 4.

We need to do everything in our power to have a chance in 2016. It won't happen if romney gets in.

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Supposedly......

Please insert the word "supposedly" before represent us.

Thanks.....

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Is government evil?

Than there is no escaping evil and to think there is a way around or out is just not understanding that evil is live spelled backwards, that's how related they are.

So it's not about running away or escaping evil, but taking on evil and restoring what is good. It's not up to a man, or a president, but it's up to each of us as best they can..

Where's your future stake in this good fight?

So, to sum it up....

Gary Johnson supporters like evil and consent to be governed by evil. At least you admit it.

I don't play, I commission the league.

But which evil human are YOU accountable for?

That is the only evil human you should allow to run your life.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

Another lame ass justification for people to vote for Johnson.

Everyone is evil so vote for my guy!!!

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

"The Least of Three Evils......"

Is still evil.

yah know

this is starting to get pretty ridiculous. Gary Johnson is a human being, and like all humans we are not perfect. Ill be honest Ron Paul wasn't perfect to me either. The Constitution says only gold and silver should be legal tender? where does it say that?...oh you want competing curriencies, so you are human after all Ron Paul.

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

Article one, section 8, clause 5.

It doesn't say gold and silver specifically, but it does say "to coin" and they are the only form of currency (besides drugs) that have weights and measures that hold any amount of value not based on trust.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

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make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts;

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If it wasn't obvious to people before that something is odd

about you, your statements here should show that.

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get off your high horse

You may have forgotten the liberty movement has grow in triple its size. I am not going anywhere so deal with it. many here may not like what i have to say, but as a former Liberal democrat I know one this is right: This movement is much more Diverse then it was 4 years ago. When I first heard about the Tea Party I thought you guys were a bunch of wack jobs. Thanks to Ron Paul, I have woken up to what Liberty and Peace is all about. Keep in mind it is our differences that Unite us.

for Liberty

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

Then educate yourself instead of making moronic statements

I could care less if you stay or go but I do care about what's being propagated. It's for you to bend to the message of Liberty, not twist it and weaken it.

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so if I understand you correctly

ONLY gold and Silver is to be used as money?! That doesnt sound very free to me, suppose i wanted to use Bitcoin, or Barter, or even FRN's, should all of those be deemed illegal medium of exchanges because they are not backed by Gold or Silver?

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

How about trading in human body parts?

and to answer your question, yes.

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But your point is still correct

Ron Paul *is* willing to do unconstitutional things but ONLY as a transition to get us back to following the constitution. Ron Paul didn't talk about cutting medicare or social security initially either but he absolutely would've addressed that.

Gold/Silver As Money

http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm

Article I, Section. 8. To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

Article I, Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts;

Oh my, say it isn't so!

How can people talk about something they know nothing about as if they do.

I would say good find but hell any Patriot worth his weight in Gold has ACTUALLY read the Constitution.

Good still.

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I don't understand all of

I don't understand all of this, but I am throwing this out there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVlqwJ00LMU&list=UUhZRoC9bMeg...

Bill Still seems to be saying the opposite some how about gold. I don't think he says it in this video, but a month or so ago I think I heard him say that the gold issue was directed at the states by the constitution. I am not advocating anything, just tossing information into the ring to those that understand better than I.

He seems to contradict himself on a regular basis concerning

this topic.

He's also wrong on some of his history in tying today's Mises with history's take on it.

His points on getting rid of Fractional reserve banking and government overspending is spot on though.

Gold has historically for the most part placed restrictions on government, that is why they moved away from it.

It gives stability and lends itself to trust because of being tied to an economy.

I personally think this is an "attack" from Cato's side... there is an old grudge between Cato-"Libertarians" and Dr.Paul.

"Article I, Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts;"

Does it not seem pretty clear as to what can and can't be done?

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I know very little about Libertarian

infighting...I am bearly able to understand Liberty at this point though I am grasping more day by day.

I don't know anything about Cato

I just knew when I heard Dr. Paul that he was spot on!

You're doing a great job of asking questions.

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I Give Up.

I started this thread because the title drifted into my head and wouldn't leave. I thought it would be a good theme for an essay so I started one here. I also thought it might be a good theme for a song or a poem so I started thinking about those possibilities as well. Whichever it turns out to be, I'm stuck.

What I do know is that the lesser of 2 evils argument doesn't allow room for a 3rd choice, whether that choice ends up being good or evil.

Will I complete the thought before the election? After the election? Before the end of time? Will the thought jump into someone else's head for completion? I don't know.

I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg

"It's not the man that I

"It's not the man that I don't trust, it's the devil inside him I don't trust." Everybody has the gift of being a saint, and the curse of being the evil.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

right on.

lock it in.

I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg

I don't know

why some would down vote comments such as the one I am replying to, prolly just some resentment.

**being evil** not "being *the* evil" lol Good post, look forward to the 2nd part.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

I look forward to the 2nd half of this post myself

Really, these notions just come to me - I had the idea of a 'least of 3 evils' so I put it up as a post here on DP. That's it. That's my agenda. I have the thought - I type the thought - I'm done.

Care to write part 2, anyone? The words are somewhere out there in the ether. They need to crystalize somewhere. Here is the grain of sand for you, words.

I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg

So, you're obviously evil by

So, you're obviously evil by dint of being human, right?