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My opinion is changing on WAC...

I was originally a very staunch critic of We Are Change. I used to be so annoyed and embarrased when a possibly completely oblivious and possibly completely innocent (innocent or ignorant of 911 being an "inside job") famous person being screamed at in the middle of a busy public appearance by We Are Change and humiliating the Liberty movement by screaming at these people "WHY ARE YOU A MURDERER WHO WORKS WITH THE CFR AND BILDERBERG GROUP AND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 911 BEING AN INSIDE JOB?!?!?!?!?!">...

Note, I do personally have a problem with the controled demolition theory. You could more easily convince me of 911 being allowed to occur by the Bush admin, by hijackers, but orchastrating 911 themselves doesn't seem logical to me. But let's leave that alone for now. That's just my personal opinion... Anyway, just for argument's sake, imagine that these people they ambushed in the past were honestly oblivious to 911 being an inside job. Put yourself in their shoes. Imagine somebody ambushed you in front of your fans about the 911 being an inside job and Bohemian Grove and CFR, etc... You would be annoyed, especially if they have a Ron Paul pin. I personally would be humiliated...

HOWEVER

, I have to say that the more recent work they have done is so faaaar better and more mature and more productive. Their new stuff is far better at getting to real issues and pointing to real tangible incredible injustices. They have legitimized themselves so much and I have to give them kudos. I REALLY have enjoyed their videos over the last 6 months. Good for them for being less "fringy" (dont be offended. I say that for lack of a better word).

Indra

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I admit I don't know a ton,

I admit I don't know a ton, but I know that guy Luke basically put all the WAC money in his bank account and kept it to pay for college. He's not trustworthy and he's likely a sociopath based on his behavior.

Also, why are they included in the freedom movement? What does an obsession with 9/11 and liberty have in common?

Actually, they HELPED CREATE THE FREEDOM MOVEMENT!!!!!!!!

No, the EVIL... THE CANCER that must be pried out, is the republican party. I find it nauseating to have GENUINE people like Rudkowski, Jones and Kokesh smeared as fringe and/or dishonest... BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WELCOME WITH BIG SLOPPY KISSES, THE LEFTIST, PROGRESSIVE, CHICKENHAWKING, LIBERTY-SMASHING, ANTI-FREEDOM republican party!

"What does an obsession with 9/11 and liberty have in common?"
Pssst... TEN YEARS OF DISMANTLING THE 1st, 4th, 5th, 10th, 13th Amendments, DHS, TSA, VIPR Teams, swarming, surveilling drones, the "Patriot" Act, the police-state, NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, CISPA.... WHAT WAS THE CATALYST FOR ALL OF THIS?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

For someone to ask that

For someone to ask that question shows the type of ignorance that exist in America today.

Bob Marshall

The republican party is not a

The republican party is not a cancer, it's leaders are. We're replacing them so prying out the GOP would be counter productive to our goals.

You do have a point about 911 being the catalyst, but it's people like Luke and Jones who make it socially unacceptable to talk about because you're judged by the company you keep. Jones and Luke are frauds who make us look crazy. My conspiracy brain thinks Jones is planned opposition. Luke is just an opportunist conman.

The repubican party...

IS AN ABSOLUTE CANCER!!!!!! YOU (not "we") aren't replacing ANYTHING! YOU (not "we") are perpetually replacing OUTED LEFTISTS for CLOSETED LEFTISTS. YOU (not "we") are replacing the Boehners and Gingrichs with Bachmanns and Wests! THEY'RE ALL THE SAME CENTRAL GOVERNMENT PLANNERS! And after 40 years of the same SCAM, NOBODY CAN HONESTLY CLAIM that they DO NOT KNOW THIS IS A FAILING STRATEGY.

Thank you for PROVING MY POINT! In your eyes, Liberty WARRIORS like Jones and Luke are "frauds" but FAKE-TEA GOPers Palin, West, Bachmann are folks the Liberty Movement and the Tea Party can really work with. THIS IS TYPICAL ESTABLISHMENT INVERTED REALITY!!!!! The Palins ARE THE FRAUDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

With each passing day of 2012, I am MORE CONVINCED that our Constitutional Republic's salvation lies with "socially unacceptable" TRUTH. Purity. REJECTION OF "COMPROMISE."

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

Who said anything about Palin

Who said anything about Palin till you brought her up?

Everything Changes accordingly

I agree that at times the style of confronting was a bit all over the place and has since matured and is now becoming more organized. There are no 'citizen journalism' classes one takes, this is grass roots media and you learn as you go. The service WRC/WAC provides is priceless and fully funded BY THE PEOPLE so if there is some constructive criticism for Luke, then reach out to him, send him a tweet and giving him advice. He's a great guy and open to co-creating in these times.

I appreciate your thoughtful post OP :)

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

I have sort of grown with them, I think

I confess, I liked the early stuff. It expressed my rage and frustration, but over time I also began to wish they would be more driven and less emotional.... and they seem to be doing just that. I have really admired the last few videos I have seen.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

After Nevada and Fresno State leave....

After Nevada and Fresno State leave, they're not gonna be very good. Oh what's that? Not that WAC? Right.

I do agree that We Are Change is better now than they were a few years ago, which is good. I liked the recent video of all the stuff that Romney "supports" and they can't believe he'd do all that, but then they find out Obama has done all of those things.

As for controlled demolition, there's quite a bit of evidence to point in that direction.

Dr. Judy Wood's Theory

Everyone discussing 9/11 should take a look at cdistasio's comment below in regards to Dr. Judy Wood. I believed in the controlled demolition theory up until 2 weeks ago when I heard Jesse Ventura mention Dr. Judy Wood in an interview. I read her book 'Where did the Towers Go?' and watched some of her lectures on YouTube and she changed my mind.

I Too Have Changed My View

The first I saw of WAC was Luke chasing and yelling at Rand Paul in the wake of the big Romney endorsement. I thought it was inappropriate behavior.

Now I am a big supporter, and, after they got Robert Gibbs on record sounding so demonic, I gave a substantial contribution.

I suggest everyone go to wearechange.org and donate. You can add a message with your contribution, and I let them know it was because of the Gibbs interview and how proud I am of them.

They deserve our support. The tireless work they do and guts they have to hold to the fire the feet of some mighty big players.

It's an invaluable service they provide.

___________________________________________________________________________
"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

YES...

Let WAC know that FAKE-conservatives really appreciate Luke confronting DEMOCRATS, but think it is "inappropriate" to confront REPUBLICANS and will contribute (bribe) them to steer them toward DEMOCRATS, by "letting them know it was because" of confronting DEMOCRATS. Then, eventually, we can coin the phrase WAC REPUBLICANS (like Tea REPUBLICANS or, my favorite, RepubliCANS), and "nudge" Luke & gang to be more like REPUBLICAN O'Keefe - targeting ONLY DEMOCRATS.

YES!!! If we REPUBLICANS can co-opt the Tea Party... WE CAN CO-OPT ANYTHING!!!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

can always count on

good ol brother winston to continue to drive wedges instead of seeing opportunity to bring us closer together. Good one on ya brother.

If TRUTH and accurate assessments...

be a "wedge," SO BE IT. Yeah, I'll admit... I ALMOST fell for that warm fuzzy, big tent, lovey-wuvey group bear hug in the 80's, 90's, 00's and 2010. But EVERY TIME, the embrace is LATER REVEALED, to NOT be a bear, but a GOP COILING SNAKE... and NOT a "hug," but a more... er... vulgar personal violation.

(Ironically) F the R's!

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

i'm with you on F thr Rs

and so are most of the people on this site. But you go to far sometimes man. I know you feel that it is necessary. But I honestly am not seeing anyone change their opinion because you told them they were a co-opt or had been co-opted. You assume everyone is an idiot for not having your opinion and then we gotta get your speil on how co-opters work. All I am saying is try a different approach.

Growing Wiser

Just like wine becomes better as it ages WAC is learning and growing in skill and wisdom. Soon, Luke will stop wearing a hat.

"Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms."
Ron Paul

Why I like this post.

It's not because of the half-hearted confession of being brainwashed by LordIndra, it's because of the replies below filled with sound logic and valuable links.

Thanks to those folks for sharing.

As for LordIndra,
Matthew 6:24 ¶ No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

I believe Dr. Judy Wood actually has the best explanation...

Dr. Judy Wood's book "Where did the towers go - Evidence of directed free energy" is the best book or explanation i have researched on the subject of 9-11. I've looked into every known angle about 9-11 and Judy's explanation and research seems to fit the puzzle best.

Her book details Nikola Tesla's research, The Hutchinson effect and lots of other topics. Totally recommend anybody get a copy of the book.

Her book details a type of weapon most likely used on 9-11 which most of us would NOT be familiar with is what actually caused the collapses.

Here's a funny video describing and making fun of the "Official Story":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

Also, did anyone here know about the Hurricane off the east coast on the morning of 9-11 2001. Here's the link to NASA's website showing the actual Category 3 hurricane:

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/environment/ozone_drop.html

Judy Wood's book goes into serious detail about the meaning behind this storm. Also, ask anyone about the hurricane on 9-11 and they will think you are smoking crack. Even the weather reports on the morning of 9-11 DON'T show a hurricane off the coast on that morning. And also, why no mention of this hurricane that was headed directly for NYC prior to 9-11. Say like on 9-10-2001, 9-9-2001...etc... BEFORE the actually events of 9-11 took place?????!!!

Here's a good Judy Wood's lecture on the topic evidence of directed free energy technology weaponry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqbcsU0_RjU

Anyway, too much to post on the topic. Anyone feel free to research this yourself.

One thing is for sure... I DO NOT BELIEVE THE OFFICIAL STORY ONE BIT.

And for anyone who THINKS that the government could NOT have participated in the events of 9-11, take a look at the Northwoods document now declassified from 1962...

Here's the actual document

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

Here's an article ABCNEWS.com ran on the subject of Operation Northwoods in MAY, 2001, before the attacks of 9-11.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

Have fun going down the rabbit hole!!!

Love Liberty, be Vigilant

"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Corinthians 3:17)

Faith in God will prevail all things!

wow

Thanks, pretty impressive. I feel kind of stupid now not seeing the features in the buildings disappearing.

Just when you think you've reached the bottom of a bunny hole

someone hands you a shovel.
Guess I'll be digging this morning....

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Hahaha I know exactly how you feel

I remember making some sort of peace with the ludicrous thought that people with box cutters hijacked real airplanes, then all the documentaries started coming out showing you the same footage from Corporate media and it didn't line up. Fast forward to the time I then accepted an alternate theory to what happened but there were still holes left.

Although I have seen bits and pieces of Judy Woods theories, I was already quite aware of the work John Hutchison has done (Hutchison Effect) as well as familiar with 100+ year-old technology created by Nicola Tesla. You only need a few moments of your imagination to fire up and imagine what the government has cooked up in their secret labs with their unlimited (PRINTED) money supply in that time. If a man in an apartment can figure out how to liquify metal with frequency manipulation, just think of what Billion$$$ of dollars have built over 100 years.

Never ceases to amaze me how much we have learned over the last decade alone and what's yet to come. Especially once we WIN this fight and take this technology in our own hands and use it for the benefit of humanity and not its destruction. Exciting times ahead!

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

When did you quit believing in Santa Claus?

That's the subject line of an email I wrote in 2009 that was designed to be propagated throughout the Internet. This will prove that the demolition of the towers is a known fact and no longer in the realm of "theory." I've made some very minor changes since 2009. Watch the news clips and first-hand testimony I've provided. Here it is:

BEGIN TEXT:

As kids we believed in Santa Claus. Our parents were the gatekeepers of information and, though benign, our environment during that formative time was a controlled one. We were taught to believe in Santa Claus. Initially we accepted all the information that we received at face value. However, as time progressed, we gained bits and pieces of information that led to a cognitive dissonance which, in turn, led us to question our image of Santa Claus. These “bits and pieces” led to questions such as “How could Santa Claus fit through my chimney” or “How does Santa Claus leave gifts in millions of homes during a single night”? Armed with all these bits and pieces of information, we began to get a different picture that caused all the previous illogic that we had learned to come crashing down. This finally led to an epiphany that Santa Claus really isn’t anything like what we had first thought!

There are other things in life that we have always taken for granted as “fact” that later prove to be only an illusion as well. It’s only a matter of getting more information. As in the case of the Santa Claus myth, it is only a matter of time as new evidence unfolds that we are forced to rethink our view on what the truth is.

I want to try an experiment here:

Please watch this first video linked here. It’s only one minute. You’ve read this far into my letter so please take just one small minute and watch this first video. You’re going to be impressed. This is a local news video of a witness named Kenny Johannemann testifying to explosions that happened in the basement of one of the WTC towers. While he is testifying you still see both of the twin towers burning behind him in the background. This was live footage and it's only ONE minute long. Go ahead and watch this here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEuzU3LMgCA
(YouTube Key Words: Johannemann suicide)

Those explosions were from charges that were set up to weaken the structure preparatory to pulling the tower. You say, “wait, this doesn’t fit anything I know, maybe there is some other explanation for those explosions in the basement.” True. This is just one piece of evidence, but it’s a piece of evidence that raises a lot of questions. You didn’t see this on TV either. Does that prick your interest?

The government has promoted a “theory” that maybe the fuel from the jet trickled down the elevator shafts into the basement and subsequently exploded. Could this be? Let’s continue and look at other evidence. Barry Jennings was another witness that got stuck in Building Seven during 9/11. Remember, Building Seven was NEVER hit by a jet. In Barry's case an explosion blew out a stair well below him leaving him hanging and stranded for hours until the fire department got him out. Both the twin towers went down during the time he was stranded. Building Seven, a tall building in it’s own right (47 stories tall), came down at around 5:20 (later that day). Fortunately, he was saved. Watch his account here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbbZE7c3a8Q
(YouTube Key Words: Barry Jennings dead age – more hits when “dead age” excluded)

Again, the explosions he talked about were from charges that were set up to weaken the structure preparatory to pulling down this building. You say, “Hold On! Building Seven housed the FBI and the CIA offices, so who would have access to set up explosives in there? There has got to be another explanation.” True. This is just one piece of evidence which raises more questions. Again, you didn't see Barry’s testimony on TV.

William Rodriguez, head janitor at the towers, was meeting with some people in basement level #1 (the highest of several basement levels) when an explosion from below pushed everyone upwards, causing ceiling tiles to fall and walls to crack. Just as William started to express to others what he thought that explosion might be, an airplane hit and shook the building from above. His story begins at 9:31 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWXTk5aNAAs
(Google Video Key Words: William Rodriguez Alex Jones)

Now, let’s look for other different kinds of evidence. Steve Jones, a physicist, obtained WTC dust samples from the collapsed WTC towers from people who lived nearby. He analyzed it and found that the dust contained residues of explosives. Steve Jones first became famous when he became known as the “voice of reason” during the Pons / Fleischman "Cold Fusion" debacle of 1989, if you remember that. For a Nuclear Physicist, like Steve Jones, analyzing dust samples for explosive residues is a relatively simple task. It may be similar to asking a PhD mathematician to do arithmetic. He reported his detailed findings here in Boston:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1957490867030316250&...
(Google Video Key Words: Steve Jones Boston)

In this lecture, you recall, he offered other scientists to take parts of his samples in order to analyze the "red chips" that he had recently discovered. That was December 2007. These specks have now, in fact, been confirmed to be unexploded “nanostructured super-thermite” particles. That confirmation is not just a smoking gun IT IS THE GUN. See the article here:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Scientists_find_active_superth...

The actual paper in its entirety can be found here in PDF form. Be sure to click the “download” link here:

http://www.bentham.org/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.htm?T...

If you get into the actual paper, you learn that the explosives may actually have been sprayed into position like paint or insulation!

Steve Jones’ findings may not fit the stories that you have heard in the news but it does lend support to what Johannemann, Jennings and Rodriguez testified that they saw. You say, “The news media isn’t going to shoot itself in the foot by making something up.” So how do we rectify all the contradictions that we were told in the news? Could Steve Jones and these witnesses be glory-seeking kooks trying to make a name for themselves?

Then take a look at this:

Here is a BBC report announcing the collapse of the Solomon Building (the official name for Building Seven). There is only one problem. The reporter standing at the scene and announcing this didn't realize that, in fact, you could still see Building Seven still standing off to the right. It actually collapsed within about 20 minutes after that live report. Watch it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlL6ewlW6oc
(YouTube Key Words: BBC Solomon slips – you get more hits by excluding “slips”)

How did the BBC know in advance that Building Seven would collapse? The fact that it was announced in advance is strong support that the flow of information on this tragedy was being controlled (but in a more sinister way than how information about Santa Claus was controlled in your life).

Were the people at the BBC the only people privy to this information? Probably not. Larry Silverstein was the leaseholder of Building Seven. In a 2002 PBS documentary he talked about how he discussed the Building Seven situation with the fire department and how the decision was made by that department to "pull" it. Well, there is one problem with his testimony that you may want to consider. It takes about a week to rig a building with explosives before you pull it. So are buildings constructed with built-in explosives just in case they need to be blown up in a hurry? Building Seven went down that same day. Whoops! Watch Larry's testimony from the PBS documentary here in this short clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3E-26oVIIs
(YouTube Key words: PBS Silverstein)

Incidentally, luckily for Larry, he insured his property in the nick of time just six months before September 11th! It was a sweet deal. So who orchestrated this terrorist event anyway? They had to get past the FBI and CIA and prepare at least three buildings for demolition as well as direct the activities of men with box cutters (if they even existed). It’s clear from the evidence presented here so far that at least some of the media was in on this. What else could explain the BBC blunder? They had to control the information to those of us who might not like the idea that a few thousand people had to be killed in order to fulfill some kind of agenda. What’s in it for these people that were “in the know?”

Aaron Russo was a famous movie producer who became best friends with one of the Rockefeller family members (Remember “The Rose” and "Trading Places" starring Eddie Murphy?). This is the same Rockefeller family that is a large shareholder of the Federal Reserve Bank -- a private company that loans money to our government and contributes to our huge national debt. You see the name “Federal Reserve” at the top the dollar bill. Yes, we're talking about THAT Bank! Anyway, the upshot of this friendship was that in the year 2000 (11 months before 9/11) Aaron Russo learned from his Rockefeller buddy that there was going to be an "event". He was told that out of this event the U.S. would go into Afghanistan and look for Bin Laden in Caves and then the U.S. would go into Iraq. His fascinating testimony about this "event" starts at 26:45 here in this interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ
(Google Video Key Words: Aaron Russo Reflections Warnings)

One more thing. In February 2009 a 44 story Chinese skyscraper caught fire and thoroughly burned into a crinkling cinder. However IT DID NOT COLLAPSE. By comparison WTC Building Seven had a few small fires and was never hit by a plane. It DID COLLAPSE. See that article here:

http://www.infowars.com/fire-consumes-wtc-7-size-skyscraper-...
(Google Key Words: China 44 fire consumes)

Now see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
(YouTube Key Words: architects engineers 911 truth)

Amazingly, all this evidence is only the tip of the iceberg. Each of these are separate independent pieces of evidence from unconnected sources. When taken together they paint a clear picture. You are a juror in a court of law. What would be your verdict? Remember, the word “conspiracy” is not in the dictionary to describe a fiction.

To forward this as a clean readable e-mail (without the accumulation of all the “>” symbols) just highlight all the text and COPY IT FIRST. Then paste it into your new e-mail before sending it on. It works like a charm!

NOTE: I included key words below each link because it’s common for a video to disappear. Usually multiple versions exist and the key words will assist in finding another copy.

-Bloatedtoad

I WELCOMED the Truther information...

and TRUSTED MY FELLOW AMERICAN CITIZEN to discern FOR THEMSELVES between truth and deception.

"Humiliating the Liberty movement?" Alex Jones? WAC? Truthers? HUMILIATING?!?!?!!

Try the GOP CO-OPTING my Tea Party and herding it to support WHOMEVER the gop selects as leaders! Try Sarah Palin AND HER BABBLING IDIOCY THAT MAKES YOU WANNA PUKE, creating, then commandeering a tea party throne. Try FAKE-TEA freedomworks, who is, AS WE SPEAK, working with FAKE-conservative/libertarian Glenn Beck to corral THOUSANDS OF NAIVE AMERICANS under their CO-OPTED banner "Tea Party" and "Liberty" TO VOTE FOR ANTI-TEA PARTY ROMNEY!!!!!!! Try Hunter. Try Benton. Try Rand Paul, who SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL... AND ON ANTI-RON PAUL Sean Hannity's show!!!!!!! Try the WHOLE DAMN GOP and their MONTH AFTER MONTH in STATE AFTER STATE SYSTEMATIC AND SUSTAINED RAPE of Ron Paul's Presidential run... only to then have THE VICTIMS talk of "infiltrating" THE RAPIST?!?!?!?!

THAT, my friend, is Liberty movement HUMILIATION!!!!!

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

I concur on WAC

There are a few things that I agree with with them but there are lots of things they support that I do not agree with or support. So I just very carefully read everything I can about anything they email me or fb me and decide if I agree or not.

We all learn as we go.

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Problem with the Controlled Demolition Theory?? Really??

I used to have a "problem" with anything "fringe", too...then I actually, for the first time, looked at the evidence.

Evidence...and science...do NOT lie.

The only "fringe" "conspiracy" theory here is the government's "official" account of what "happened".

Truth is stranger than fiction.

The FEMA, 9-11 Commission, and especially NIST reports are so riddled with pseudoscience, cover-ups, fraud, and destruction of evidence...that they are crime scenes in and of themselves.

Reprehensible, revolting, and disgusting. Your taxpayer money at work.

Meanwhile, 3000 innocent people and first-responders are dead, and hundreds of thousands of people, and families of the victims, carry the scar with them to this day.

Justice will be served, though. And the truth will come out.

Watch these excellent documentaries...and get back with me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cfjYUHF8UE&sns=em&noredirect=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFidciVopu4&feature=plcp

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

I personally know Steve Jones...

...so I was surprised that I was unaware of the Hypothesis video until your post here. For that alone it was worth flipping your rating to +17. Thanks! Note that I have a post (a few posts after yours above) where within my "Santa Claus" email there is a link to a Steve Jones lecture in Boston. That is where he broke the news about the red chips back in December 2007, about a year and a half before his peer reviewed paper was released. If you haven't seen it then you're going to like it.

It was interesting when I first met Steve Jones it was in the early summer of 2007. My brother in Canada tipped me off to the small event in Provo, Utah. Steve is an incredible brilliant man. There was one other thing that amazed me when I attended that event. There was no one there that wasn't for Ron Paul for President. Remember, back then almost no one had even heard of Ron Paul. Also, Romney is a Mormon and the memory was fresh about how Romney had saved the 2002 Olympics. Yet, there at that meeting, everyone (I bet they were mostly Mormons) was for Ron Paul. Romney did not matter! How could that be? That told me something. That something was that the best way to wake people up to become savvy about liberty vs. tyranny was through educating people about conspiracy. I've been doing that ever since.

In fact after writing my Santa Claus email (which I designed to be propagated across the Net) I found it to be a useful tool for flipping people to the truth. The reason was that I had spent a lot of time sifting through all the data I was aware of on the Net (YouTube Videos, articles, etc). I wanted my email to tell a story that included all the who, what, when, where and why in a clear manner. I also use a stripped down version of this email to answer 9/11 questions on Yahoo Answers (also under Bloatedtoad). I've made some minor changes since and the only major change here from my original was the addition of the 15 minute Architects & Engineers piece at the end (same version as yours).

Get me in front of a computer with almost anyone and I will flip them from a government 9/11 fairytale believer to a 9/11 truth believer, and that's just using the links in my Santa Claus email (a few posts above). If time is short (most of the time it is) the most important links are the Kenny Johanemann video (1 minute) and the Larry Silverstein "pull it" video (56 seconds) and your explanation of what these two videos mean. Then if you can get the person to watch the Aaron Russo interview that will tie it all together. The fourth most important link here is the BBC advance report (which proves that a story had already been scripted in the media in advance). Those three or four alone with your guiding insights as they watch is usually enough to cause cognitive dissonance. If you get them to go through all the links I present here it will devastate their world view of what really happened and they will be in a daze for a week or more as they sort out their world view. I know. I've been doing this for three years now. It's time to stop this nonsense that guys with box cutters can shut down the greatest country in the world. This will break it open if it reaches enough people. Go to my post (above) and look it over. Feel free to copy and share if you wish.

-Bloatedtoad

yes and that is why Dr. Judy Wood is my....

H.E.R.O.

I AM THE MOST OPENED MINDED PERSON YOU WILL MEET...

It sounds like you "may" be too. I have watched EVERY single documentary you could imagine and THEN i watch every debunking site and watch every debunker vs theorist debates I can find on YouTube possible and make up my mind. I swear, what irritates me about Truthers is that they are just as closed minded as Sarah Palin fans. I swear to God, I have never been so attacked for having questions about 911 theories, except when I go on RedState and attack or support Romney. Its like its faith and dogma to truthers, when it shouldnt be. I do have MANY questions about 9/11. I told you, somewhere in my heart I believe Bush and his team SAW it coming, but every time I watch a truther debate a debunker on YouTube, it feels like the debunker usually wins when talking about specifics of demolition theory. I didnt even want to go to this on this thread, but I just have a hard time believing the government would need to go THAT far just to do something it Obama has proven he can do without a terrorist attack. I think the Bush admin DEFINITELY used 911 to get his BS passed, of course and Bush is a war criminal. I just think there are too many holes in the controlled demolition and inside job theory. The government is criminal enough with NDAA, the Fed printing, Romney's election thievery, our massive debt, corrupt media, etc that is enough to start a revolution over and it seems to be a waste of time to fight for something we just simply dont know enough about. Yes the 911 commission was started to fail and its simple enough to believe Bush did that so as to not embarras his incompetence. Farenheit 911 I believe is the most accurate look at the Bush admin. Government in itslef is tyrannical and we dont need unproven conspiracy statements of faith to prove it. I DO BELIEVE WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION AND MY MIND IS ALWAYS OPEN

Ron Paul 2012

I am glad to know that you

I am glad to know that you are the most open minded person. If the 'controlled demolition' theory is not convincing you, perhaps you should look into finding any evidence of the two planes that crashed into Pentagon and Shankeville, PA. Can you positively identify any pieces including any parts of the planes, body parts, luggage, cloths, or anything you can think of and let us know?