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No more whining about the 2 party system

If you are going to write in Ron Paul and exclude a 3rd party from receiving matching funds, then please just shut up about the corrupt 2 party system.

If you just "can't vote Johnson" because of your stance on abortion, and at the same time you throw maybe millions of civilians and tens of thousands of troops at death's door over the next decade, then I really do not understand any of you.

Romney, Obama or Johnson will change nothing on abortion, so let it go. Fight the fight you CAN win and save the lives our kids fighting these wars.

The hypocrisy of many of my family members and friends, who quote the bible or immediately publish a fallen police officer and send flowers, but then turn their backs and cover their ears when troops and thousands of brown kids are murdered with drones just irks the hell out of me.

You might be able to save thousands of lives down the road, but those lives don't meet your standards.

Shame on all of you who've cherry picked human life.

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Political promises.

I've seen 20 twenty Presidents promise the moon to get votes but the foreign policy never changes.

In an emergency, NDAA hands control to the bureaucracy to bypass Constitutional restrictions.

Almost all of our elected officials in my life have failed to uphold and defend the Constitution.

Oh heck, maybe this time will do the trick, eh?

Free includes debt-free!

GJ supporters are pathetic.

NEWSFLASH: Even if every single diehard Paul supporter voted for Gary, he still would lose in a landslide, allowing Obamney to continue the dronefest and warmongering that is our foreign policy. So trying to smear us write-in voters as being pro-war is just idiotic. And that's not even considering how Gary openly admits he wouldn't take drones and indefinite military occupations off the table.

Furthermore, who the hell are you to tell us what we can and can't complain about? So much for "being libertarian for you one time". Never mind the right to life, you can't even respect our basic right to free speech!

I don't play, I commission the league.

Vote the person, not the party.

Party is meaningless to me. We must continue educating family, friends and strangers about Liberty and what our nation truly stands for. Once they understand, they will also vote the person, and not the party or what msm dictates.

Parties become infiltrated and corrupted. It is time that voters actually looked at voting records and not tv.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

If only we had

a two party system to whine about...

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Too often I hear people

Too often I hear people saying "well Romeny wants to get rid of Unions, so I'm not voting for him!" or something like that, but I agree with what you're saying here. I really don't think anything will change in terms of the plan for the social issue agenda, because that's what it is, an agenda. Whoever gets in , the same path will be taken, including the loss of life, which no one in the mainstream seems to care about.

Ron Paul: Forget A 3rd Party,

Ron Paul: Forget A 3rd Party, We Need A 2nd Party


I am writing in Ron Paul. I can't vote for Johnson for many reasons...NAFTA/CAFTA, open border policy, "fair" tax, the dungeons for dollars scheme, also known as privatized prisons, and his foreign policy views.

Consistency appears to be a problem for Johnson. When someone can prove to me that Johnson isn't just another 2008 Obama, who ran on the anti.-war platform and then turned around and expanded the Bush wars and started a few of his own, I might consider it. But, concerning GJ's inconsistency on drones, staying vigilant on the war on terror, kony, continued support for Israel's policies and financial support though foreign aid....good luck trying to convince me or anyone else who has throughly researched Gary that he deserves my vote.

I will support our troops by voting for the man that they support and donate to , and it's not Johnson. Shame on you for attempting to guilt people into voting for GJ using false logic.

I have said this again and again...

A Third Major Party is not a solution

1. It can be infiltrated

2. It is Only a PARTY

3.when the money givers decide it's important enough, they will take it over just like Republican party, C4l, and Tea Party etc

Even if this party is a major party that spends Taxpayer money, it won't make a difference as those in power has not changed. You need to pay attention to individuals who are like Ron Paul, and not to advance a party, because that would be meaningless.

Shame on you for your attempt to sway votes with false logic, not go and vote for whoever you want with this in mind.

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

I agree

Which message would be heard louder? A 3rd party getting 5% of the vote, or Ron Paul (or someone else) not even on the ballot getting 5% of the vote??

The party system itself is largely to blame for what we face in America today. Too many people tow the party line, compromise their ideals, and go along with stuff that steal our liberty and prosperity.

Different named parties will not solve our problems. Only large numbers of INDIVIDUALS with vision, intellect, dedication, great moral fiber, and a love of liberty can do that.

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Too much party-line voting. It's time people to realize that the LP is just a party, not an incredible individual like Ron Paul.

If he got 5% he would get so much attention it's not funny

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

Lol...you actually believe

Lol...you actually believe that the election will be fair and gjs votes will actually be counted accurately without fraud???

Lmao...wish I was that naive.

Even if by some.miracle of God that they let Gj have 5%....5% is not a political party, its a speck. 5% is nothing.

Obama will win bc that is what is supposed to happen.

How is a third party going to fix things?

You keep calling this a two party system but the fact is that there is no appreciable difference between the two so we are basically under one party. The Republican party is SUPPOSED to be for limited government, individual rights, less taxes and most of what libertarians believe in and that is what Republican voters think/say they are voting for. Ron Paul said many times that he was trying to return the Republican party back to its core values and you see what happened. You see the proof that there is no Republican party anymore because none of those ideas are upheld.

So now let's look eight or twelve years ahead and meditate on just what good a third party presidential win will accomplish. Will it truly compete with our current ONE party system or will it just become another choice from the same ideological pool? How will it change who is in power? Let's say that Johnson got 10% of the vote. Big deal. You still have the media and the elite making the rules and determining the arguments and the "proper" way of thinking. If at some time down the road the "Libertarian" party did succeed in getting a candidate elected do you really think it will be someone who espouses and upholds the same ideas as Ron Paul?

All I can say is this. If this country rewards Barack Obama by reelecting him as its leader then this country deserves the complete and total loss of freedom that will ensue. The protest vote is all we have left and I will vote the vote that protests Obama first and foremost. And if I have to vote for a potential piece of crap to get rid of an absolute piece of crap then so be it. It is no more futile than your argument.

Well then forget it...

Go home, hang Ron Paul's picture on the wall and tell everyone you've done everything humanly possible.

Why would I do that?


tl;dr - Vote for Johnson or shut up

Exactly how is this tactic different from the two party system trap?

I don't know, I'm not Santa Claus...

Just trying to do something beyond crying in my beer.

So you have decreed that "we"

must all participate in the evil or we are to blame for the evil the system does? Sorry, heard that one many times and it is just as false now. You go ahead. If everyone just stayed home and refused to consent to the system, if no one "voted" for the pre-selected thug choices then they could no longer pretend that we are not an occupied conquered people, serfs robbed of their wealth and freedom and sold out by "elected" "leaders". Voting is a proven scam, corrupt. Elections are a joke. Wake up. After what happened to Ron Paul, you STILL don't get it?

Do what you want...

Hang Ron Paul's picture on the wall and forget the whole thing.

Can't explain why you STILL

persist in clinging to the illusion that the people have ANY control over the outcome of elections??? They broke bones. locked people out, illegally kidnapped delegates and tried to frame them for crimes. They closed precincts and "lost" the votes of precincts. Ron Paul WON Iowa and they refused to acknowledge it until it did no good.
HOW on EARTH do you figure any voting you do is worth a CRAP unless it is for a preselected NWO thug?
Why would a sovereign individual want to "vote" for his slavemaster?

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Thank you and you're probably

Thank you and you're probably correct. I might not of stated it so bluntly, but still I agree.

It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. – Mark Twain
Real patriotism is a willingness to challenge the government when it's wrong. - Ron Paul

+ 1

Well said patriot.
Thank you.

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I find it funny you to call him a patriot

Because you sure aren't a patriot to the U.S.

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.