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Electric wheel hub motor, can convert any car to a hybrid electric vehicle with a bolt on application, Check out the video

This is an interesting concept, any vehicle can be easily converted to an electric hybrid with this bolt on application. The estimated cost of $3,000, combined with the doubling of the gas millage puts it in the reach of the average person. Certainly more affordable than a Chevrolet Volt, with the added benefit of being able to move the parts to another car, if needed. Since most driving is less than 45MPH and short distance, this looks like a winner.

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I haven't looked into that issue for a while. Found this story. It's got a wild lookin Caddy, Like how it ends :)


Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

yes they are

But that doesn't change the fact. A lot of things are recyclable and or require special disposal but how many of said things actually are? Don't look only at what is written on paper but cognate on the realities of it.

I have worked with industrial lead acid and gel cell batteries and they as well as the new lithium batteries have their problems. And then to think of all the new regulations that we would face to "ensure" proper maintenance and disposal. Like I said. No Thanks.

Exactly. Imagine the toxins

Exactly. Imagine the toxins from hundreds of thousands or millions of electric car batteries leeching into the water supply.

Do people actually believe all the manufactured crap we consume is somehow magically turned into new things? There are city-sized piles of Chinese and American rubbish sitting in China that is seeping into their rivers and the ocean.

Fear! the whole world is

Fear! the whole world is going to die... FEAR FEAR FEAR.....


Velveeta is right on this one. The solution to our self destructive behavior is not even worse destructive behavior.

Re: I agree

Don't shoot the golden goose. I was in the motorcycle biz for near 30 years. In 84 Yamaha came out with one of the first "mass production turbo motorcycles". Motorcyclist prejudged and knocked the concept so severly that the technology developement to over come the flaws was shelved setting back a concept that could have been fixed and gone far.

Likewise, I saw many of the EV1's and didn't think much about them because I thought they'd be still around. Had no clue they were all gonna be rounded up and I thought I'd see them from here on all the time. NOT. You gotta ask yourself, "Why did GM recall ALL OF THEM (except one for a museum W/motor extracted), under the threat of force/law and CRUSH THEM?"

I used to believe what you do about electric cars also, but then I watched "Who killed the electric car?"

In that movie, once again, you'll see a lot of media mind control at play to make people think that ______________.

Oh, I don't want to spoil the ending. Watch the movie and you'll see.....

Also, I'm not really even an electric car advocate. As of now, with what is commonly available and inexpensive, I think methane with nitro injection is the way, until further advancements become available.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

I like fuel cells also, but

I like fuel cells also, but the problem is adequately containing the extremely high-pressure fuel material and then using it in an efficient way.

In my non-professional opinion, the future of most energy efficient vehicles is with hybrids and tweaked traditional fuel engines. Super high efficiencies are still possible and the way forward may be achieved using computer modeling of engines in evolutionary efficient engine simulations.

I admittedly do not know the pressure you speak of

But there are propane powered vehicles and natural gas powered vehicles that require pressurized holding tanks that are on the roads. The LP tanks that I am familiar with are pressured up to 225 PSI. I don't know how much higher the pressure would be for the operation of a fuel cell. But in all my experience with LP I have never seen a tank blow up, that I can recollect. I have on the other hand seen many batteries blow up.

Check out.....


Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Ummmmm, Rethink.....

Watch "Who killed the electric car". After you watch you'll think you ate the red pill and the blue pill.....

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

I watched it already. There

I watched it already. There was no profitable market for an all-electric when GM made their car.

There was, and still is, no widespread infrastructure to support electrics, plus battery technology has not developed to be competitive (equal) to the performance of the traditional gas or Diesel engine driven vehicles.

Regarding shifting the source of pollution:

"While studies of the pollution-reducing ability of electric vehicles in California are quite favorable, they cannot be applied to the rest of the world as a whole. The truth is that when using electricity generated from dirty sources such as coal and oil, electric vehicles may actually create more of some pollutants than comparable internal combustion engine vehicles. A report by the U.S. General Accounting Office (GAO) cited a German study that estimated the environmental impact of electric vehicles with two distinct energy mixes: one comprised of only 49% coal-fired electricity, and one comprised solely of coal-fired electricity [1]. The estimates provided by the study are given in table 1. Assuming that 49% of an electric vehicle's charging energy being derived from coal, the study found that electric vehicles would cause comparable levels of nitrogen oxides and carbon dioxide to be emitted, and that sulfur oxide emissions would increase by a factor of 10 [1]. Furthermore, when assuming that an electric vehicle is charged with 100% coal-fired electricity, the study estimated that the electric vehicles would emit 150% more carbon dioxide, 250% more nitrogen oxides, and 2400% more sulfur oxides than a comparable internal combustion engine vehicle [1]."


Suppose I assume the car is charged from wind, solar or nuclear?

How much smog then? Geez. If I want to buy an electric car, that's my business. Don't want the government to subsidize me or the petroleum industry to get in my way.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

California is different, as

California is different, as referenced by my source. Most of the country isn't powered with nuclear, solar and wind. That's why there is no net gain with regard to cutting pollution. For the country to reach total clean energy status, could take generations.

Bizarre why someone would

Bizarre why someone would down vote facts...

There was once such a car!

But they crushed it (literally ).
Yes, they crushed all of them.
I believe there were approx. 200 fully electric cars and all those involved, from the designers, engineers, factory workers were so upset because the car was practiaclly flawless!

They all loved it....no oil changes, no clutch, no transmission, ran quiet, 0-60 in about 12 seconds and you could laugh as you drove by the gas stations.

I watched a video about this and could only come to the conclusion that TPTB gave GM a no alternative but to put this away!

You can google for the video

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

I did not know the EV1 had a range of 160 miles!

and a recharge time of about 8 hours. Given electric motors are about 90% efficient and gasoline motors are at 25%, it seems like a no brainer to go with electric. Its also interesting to note that the rail road uses electric motors, makes one wonder. Thanks for the comment and the link.

160 miles on an 8 hour charge is entirely


As it is, most gasoline powered vehicles have at best a 400 mile range on a tank.

From someone who's done lots of cross country driving, a 400mile/tank range is a PITA.

160mile/charge range is a deal breaker.

I can drive from Louisiana to South Carolina or to northern Kentucky in 12-14 hours and I'd have to stop for gas three times counting the initial tank. (one way, a round trip is 5 stops with some gas left over)

If I was stuck with your 160mile/charge models, the same trips would take me 5-6 DAYS one way!! Certainly, I could get more driving done in a day if I were lucky enough to find charging stations at just the right spots. I could drive for 2.5 hours on a charge, then stop and charge for 8 hours, then drive 2.5 more hours and then call it a day. This could cut the trip down to 2-3 days instead of 5-6.

This is completely impractical.

Even shorter distance driving which is commonplace around here - to New Orleans, to Houston, to Shreveport, to Gulfport, Mobile, or the Florida pan handle - completely out of the question. A trip to Houston which takes me 3.5 hours, would now take me ALL DAY.

And for local driving, you are forgetting the not so small problem that batteries have called the "memory effect."

I drive 20-25 miles each day, one way, to get to work.

If I charged the car each leg of the trip, while at work, and while at home, my battery will eventually not be able to hold a full charge due to the memory effect.

Short trip driving would be the worst case use for this type of system as the memory effect would be greatly enhanced.

One would have to plan everything around the inconvenience of running till their battery was nearly empty, then being lucky enough to be near a means to charge it, then waiting 8 hours till get it filled up, and then going about your life.

And we didn't even get into the energy costs in making the battery, or in generating the electricity to charge it or all the components involved and the infrastructure needed.

Gasoline is king for a reason. Overall, it is highly efficient, and it is way more convenient and practical.

If you want to supplant gasoline, you'll have to solve ALL of those problems, not just emissions at the point of converting potential energy to motion.

The lithium Ion batteries don't have a memory effect

But they do have a habit of bursting violently into fire every so often! Nothing is without its drawbacks! LOL http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/everyday-tech/lithium-i...

With the amount you drive, you are right, electric is totally impractical, but I think it would be a fit for someone as a second car short distance city commuter.



Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

The video did not mention it, however

It appears with this technology the donor car does not need a gasoline motor at all. How many cars go to the junk yard with either a blown motor or transmission? This seems like a good idea to make an existing car useable with little expense. http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2012/...

Actually, the designer said the system would work only in city..

which indicates to me the maximum speed would not be enough to make the vehicle "street legal" without a gasoline engine or transmission.

Not exactly, he said it was designed for city transportation

He said the system was designed for 40 mile range at 45 MPH or less and said that was the market they designed the system for. He also said that was within the 80% average, then went on to say, when on the interstate the electric was not used. It won't work for high speed expressways but for a second car commuter vehicle, inexpensive grocery getter, it looks ideal.

You are correct. However, while "street legal"...

a maximum 45 mph would be rather dangerous on most four lanes.

They have other electric car kits.....

That you can now buy. Average price, get ready, $10,000+. So it makes this a deal.

Anyways, if you got one of the other kits you need to rip out all non-essential running gear to make em lighter for range (engine, clutch, gear box, entire 3rd member, etc). Acceleration is great, range is around 100 miles and varies with load and speed, etc.

Just plug it in at night, regular out let and costs a fraction of gas.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Link Please?


" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Here ya go.....

It's a generic link. Pretty interesting, never the less. I had many many really net ones saved, but computer crash and lost my favorites.

Don't get a Dell or, thanks to Gingrich and Co. you'll have to deal with some guy in India that you can't understand for hours and, well, anywayz, it's called DellHell.com

Oh heres the link you wanted:

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks