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Concerning the old saying, "If you don't vote, don't complain."

Thoughts?

For me, I can not bring myself to vote for Obama, Romney, Johnson, Stein, Goode, or Anderson, and I unfortunately don't have the option in my state to Write-In Ron Paul.

My first choice was of course going to be to vote for Ron Paul. When he didn't get the nomination, it was going to be a Write-In for Ron Paul. When I realized that he was not going to be on my ballot, I decided to 'Abstain' my vote for POTUS, and just vote for my other local elections.

But like I asked above; Thoughts?



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I think you did the right

I think you did the right thing. Checking a box for the sake of checking a box is part of what got us in this mess to begin with. And, the discrepancy between number of voters voting vs number cast for President WILL be noticed. You have sent your message. Thank you for sticking to your principles.

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The opposite is true, actually

If you create a system to resolve a dispute or make a communal decision, and then agree to play it out, then you have agreed to the system and can't complain.

For example, if you and a friend decide to make a decisions together, say what type of take-out food to have, and decide to make the decision based on 'rock paper scissors', then the loser gives up his right to complain about the outcome (lest they be immature or petty or something)

So you can't complain if you vote and your guy wins, you can't complain if you vote and your guy loses.

so I would recommend getting some take-out food instead of voting.

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George Carlin

says if you do vote, you have no right to complain. http://youtu.be/xIraCchPDhk

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

George Carlin

RIP. He got it, he understood it. He was flat out awesome. I can still watch his videos that I have already seen over and over and I can still laugh and agree.

Nice, Thanks

I was dismayed to see Libertarian VP candidate Jim Grey say "You don't vote, you're giving up your right to complain" during Libertopia 2012's panel discussion entitled "To Vote Or Not To Vote":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGJoPKwOps8

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This saying has never made

This saying has never made sense to me. It only makes sense if you actually believe there is a difference between Mitt and Barack. When you look at their stances on the most important issues, the debt, the wars, presidential power and taxes, there is no real disagreement. Romney might be a bit more conservative on taxes, but he is extremely more hawkish on wars, so he clearly isn't serious about cutting spending because he has said over and over he wants to increase military spending. Not to mention, Romney and Obama both have the same campaign contributors. Clearly a Mitt Romney presidency isn't going to change anything. So why get a republican in office who won't take the proper measures to fix things when we can keep a democrat in office who will fundamentally do the same exact things? If Mitt wins, it will ruin chances of getting a real conservative like Rand Paul(or preferably, Ron Paul) in there in 2016. Mitt Romney winning will mean it will be at least 2020 before we have a chance at an actual conservative president.

Romney lawyers win

I can see the happy smiles of all those Romney lawyers who were trying to prevent Gary Johnson from appearing on the ballot in almost all states.

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I like Jesse Ventura's response when asked, ...

"If someone put a gun to your head and make you choose between Obama and Romney, what would you do?" "I'd take the bullet."

Seriously, though, I had the same situation in 1992. I could not stomach Bush, Clinton OR Perot (after he dropped out with that idiot-level excuse). I heard the LP candidate was a turkey, but I voted for him, anyway, feeling that I could at least help the Libertarian Party with ballot access in the next election.

I believe voting Gary Johnson is the best alternative. However, if you cannot bring yourself to do that, write in Ron Paul. It cannot hurt, even if it does not count. I would even make that suggestion to Oklahomans, if they have access to a paper ballot. Otherwise, you might as well abandon the ballot box for the cartridge box and get it over with.

And if you do vote,

don't complain.

Goes both ways when the person you voted for turns out to be a fake (and there was ample evidence before hand that should have tipped you off).

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My Opinion

It would've been an honor to vote for Dr. Paul but he's not on the ballot in NY (and I don't think he's on the ballot as a "write-in" in NY). To me, the only sensible thing to do is vote for Gary Johnson. He's not Ron Paul but he does seem pretty darned good (e.g. end the wars, end the fed, balance the budget). If nothing else, we need 3rd party candidates to have more legitimacy for 2016. I think a lot more people would vote for GJ if he had more of a shot. Let's do what we can THIS election to not put people in the same position ("oh he can't win") NEXT election.

I like George Carlins take on

I like George Carlins take on this."If I don't vote I have every right to complain because I didn't pick the bastard,YOU DID.
So YOU have no right to complain."

20 years ago a 'group' of thugs rolled me, kicked me with their

steel toes, black eye, nothing broken.

Apparently, one of these 'people' came up with the idea to do this and the others 'voted' in favor of attacking me.

I didn't participate in the decision-making process so to this day I have not complained about the attack because I realize I don't have a right to do so.

Pandacentricism will be our downfall.

By all means vote, IF you have someone to vote FOR.

The election for POTUS is OVER. The last people who had a chance to vote for a real candidate were the handful of us in Tampa, and even that was a foregone conclusion.

Ron Paul's campaign was about opening people's eyes and getting MORE people to start working to restore our Republic.

I can't wait for November 7th so I can start reading and writing posts about things we can actually DO something about.

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If you vote, you are partially responsible for the mess.

I always voted, stopped voting in 2010. I do not want to give the impression that I approve of the corrupt election process, and I do not consent to have any of the people on the ballot make rules for me to live by.
I say do away with secret ballots. Want to vote? You have to wear your ballot on your shirt for the entire term, and if the person you put in power commits a crime, you get to do a little time with them... :)

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Im in much the same position

just vote locally if there are those to vote for and legislation to vote on. If there is no place for me to write-in Ron Paul on my ballot, I'll just consider my primary vote as my vote for president. That satisfies the saying in your title to me and I'll complain all I want dad gummit!

I never missed a vote

now I wished I never voted because I used to think we had choice. We have no choice, the Illusion is busted.

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