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Rand Paul Open to 2016 Presidential Run

Rand Paul was on C-SPAN on Sunday:

http://youtu.be/IeG_iIzFYJI

The 2016 question is at 2:22.

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egapele's picture

Bad news for the

Ron haters out there, I guess.

HOMEPAGE

Listen @2:40! This should be on the homepage cmon now!

Michael Nystrom's picture

Put it on the home page of your own site

Don't tell me what to do with mine.

Collectivist.

haha

Not a good way to treat your members, just saying...

egapele's picture

Name-calling.

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Michael Nystrom's picture

Stating a fact

Is not "name calling." I realize that around these parts the word, "collectivist" has negative connotations, as well it should.

What I am pointing out is that the behavior the poster above is engaging in is exactly that. The fact that he's got his own website, and he's trying to tell me what to do with mine - not just politely suggest, BUT TO DEMAND IN ALL CAPS - is the result of a collectivist mentality.

He's got his own website, but he's telling me what to do with mine. He doesn't even have the thing on his own website!

"What's yours is mine." That is a collectivist mindset. Sorry if you think that is name calling. Sorry if you think it is 'mean.' In fact, it is. I'm not engaging in idle name calling. I mean it.

WHY IS THIS NOT ON THE

WHY IS THIS NOT ON THE HOMEPAGE!?!?!

Michael Nystrom's picture

Yeah - good question!

Why isn't it on the homepage of your website? I just looked. It isn't.

Listen - I'll make this deal with you: You don't tell me what to put on the front page of my website, and I won't tell you what to put on yours.

Deal? Good.

Deal, didn't know mods read

Deal, didn't know mods read these comments for real. But Nice to meet you as well. Since your probably reading this I might as well say I dont like your marketing technique, how to ditched the Ron Paul image and all, you basically attracted all his supporters to the website and then changed it. I understand you guys have to move on with what is current, but atleast have a picture of him still up somewhere just to show respect, he did indeed begin the r3volution.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Hi - nice to meet you too.

There's no way I can read all the comments on the site, but I do read some.

Sorry you don't like my 'marketing' technique. Actually, it is more of an anti-marketing technique. I want to prevent this from becoming the epicenter of a Ron Paul cult. That would probably be mor profitable for me, but I wouldn't be able to stomach it.

Anyway, I attracted people to the site while he was running for president. Did I change it? Yes, after he changed it. After he stopped running for president, things changed.

There is still a picture on the About page.

Anyway - curious. You still haven't put this video up on your website. Why not? If it is good enough for the front page of my website, why isn't it good enough for the front page of yours?

Michael, for all the work you have done for Ron Paul it is

so surprising to see anyone down vote you. It takes a lot of .... cannot even think of a word for it. Anyway, I appreciate all you have done for Dr. Paul and the liberty movement in starting this site, quitting a job to keep the site up, and all your work. You are a genuinely good hearted person and are a definite spoke in the wheel. Thank you very much for your participation, etc, etc.... and being such an asset.

We will not quit!! We just had a meeting last night in our state to see how we progress.

Write-in Dr. Paul if you can!

I am not saying you should

I am not saying you should put it on the front page but wouldn't it be better to have more Gary Johnson and Rand Paul posts up there if your goal is to take the focus off of Ron Paul? I am just asking, not challenging. :)

We need to get an early start on 2016: Support Rand PAC 2016

www.randpac2016.com

https://twitter.com/randpac2016

LOL

Bossy little peckerwoods

I meant people in general. :)

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HECK YES!

this is awesome I am also hoping Connie Mack wins FL

Ron Paul and Rand Paul both endorsed him, didn't get mainstream though which is upsetting. But if Connie Mack win he would give Rand Paul a boost in 2016. THIS IS WHAT RON PAUL WANTED to transform the republican party!!! repul'ICAN'. Keep that in mind...

Your boy Connie was just on

Your boy Connie was just on Hannity yesterday whining about Obama's "defense cuts" and touting the virtues of a bigger navy. You can play that sordid game but playing footsie with warmongers isn't my cup of tea. My sock drawer needs attention!

Anyone thinking of 2016

Has their head up their a s s.

WAKE UP!

You got it.

Romney wins in 2012 then the machine guarantees he is the uncontested nominee for 2016. In the meantime they groom Ryan for 2020.

Result: Rand Paul or any other Liberty candidate's first opportunity to run is in 2020 against an incumbent VP. That is a lifetime in politics.

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

I really get tired of listening to this crap

your kid is an asshole. What father wouldn't want to hear that?

Rand's voting record is what matters and in my estimation it has been great.

Think of this scenario... Romney wins and 2 years from now when his foreign policy sucks and he's helped all his banker buddies out, Rand can run against him in a primary and say that I endorsed Romney, but he didn't live up to my expectations. Then he could have the national stage with Romney one on one

In my book, endorsing someone that's an asshole, makes you

an asshole too at that level.

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Ron Paul endorsed Reagan. And Lamar Smith.

I guess Ron Paul is the ultimate asshole by that logic.

Slight difference peanut

One was done out of sincere belief and then LATER Dr.Paul left the party over Ronald Reagan.. huh swifty?

Rand knows Romney is a douche...He doesn't seem to mind because..

A: He's really a "Romney" fan at heart

or

B: He's playing a game that he thinks he can win.

I just can't take a chance on someone like that either way.. too many politicians have flip flopped as is and people keep getting suckered..

But hey, nice of you to try and use Ron Paul against people.

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And then Dr. Paul got back into the Republican party again

Because he knew full well he had to play the game to make a difference. Dr. Rand Paul might have a slightly different style than Dr. Ron Paul, but they aren't as different as people are making it seem.

Rand is a spitting image of Ron. Ron went decided to become a physician. He went to Duke Medical School. Rand chose the same profession as his father. Rand went to Duke Medical School. Ron went into politics. Rand followed him into politics. They have 99.5% identical political beliefs.

Rand certainly has a pretty good reason to think he can win the game. As a Senator and one of the most powerful people in the country, he is certainly off to a hell of a start. Look at the compilation of the Senate. Most of them are a bunch of jackasses. Rand sees this and he knows where he stands. He is going to run for president and he is going to be a force to be reckoned with.

I have no doubt he thinks Romney is a douche, but he probably also figures that Romney is more likely to sign his bills than Obama. A Republican Congress, a Republican Senate, and a Republican president gives Rand more influence. He has only been in office for 2 years, remember. The other freshman Senators aren't doing much. It takes time to takeover the old guard.

Also, of course I used Ron Paul as an example against you. You said what I considered to be a hypocritical thing.

Boy, some of you people are really thick..

He didn't "play the game".. He never capitulated to the Repubes.. He simply used their rules to try and beat them. He has never endorsed Romney.. He has never campaigned for him.. Big difference buddy.

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He didn't play the game, huh?

He didn't capitulate to the Republicans?

I forgot that he never returned to the Republican party after leaving it. I forgot that he won as an Independent, and refused to caucus with Republicans. I forgot that he never campaigned for other Republicans in local elections and Congress. I forgot that during the presidential election, he said "fuck the Republican rules I'm doing it my way."

Don't get me wrong, I love Ron Paul, but don't kid yourself and think that he didn't play the game.

I don't think you understand what the game is.

Are you saying Dr.Paul has voted for sanctions on Iran?

Sucked Romney s ballsack from day one? No no.. He might have been in the party but he never traded in his beliefs for it.

Rand is a traitor to Liberty.. you'll see as he gains more momentum.

He's the watered down version of his Dad and that's why you like him probably because maybe Ron Paul was just a little too much Liberty for your taste.

I think for many of you who support Romney (Edit:sorry meant Rand.. Got them mixed up.. Imagine that!!) and Gary.. well it's just the right mix of neocon for ya.

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"Ron Paul was too much liberty for me?"

You're a close-minded, intolerant jackass and you don't know my political beliefs. I am about as anarcho-capitalist as they come.

Ron Paul's SON, RAND PAUL, is not an "enemy of liberty." Not every issue is black and white. It is debatable if trade sanctions are an "act of war." Governments have enacted sanctions against other countries many, many times and it never escalated to combat. Do I agree with economic sanctions? No. But they are certainly far superior to ACTUAL WAR WITH IRAN, which Rand has been very outspoken against.

Thomas Jefferson used embargos. Was he an enemy of liberty because of this? If Thomas Jefferson was alive today, I would unquestionably support him.

Also, Ron Paul voted for war against al-Qaeda. Is he an enemy of liberty? Ron Paul served in the military during a terrible war, is he an enemy of liberty for this participation?

Ron Paul is in disagreement with his son over sanctions

especially since Iran has done everything it was supposed to do EXCEPT completely shut down it's nuclear power plan because why? Oh that's right.. they have a treaty that they've met every stipulation save one.

So uh yeah... It's not debatable. Deciding not to trade with someone as a country on your own or forcing 30 other countries to do the same thing with you for no warranted reason is slightly different..

And why did Jefferson impose embargo's?

Oh that's right..

"The embargo was imposed in response to violations of U.S. neutrality, in which American merchantmen and their cargo were seized as contraband of war by the belligerent European navies. The British Royal Navy, in particular, resorted to impressment, forcing thousands of American seamen into service on their warships.[3] Great Britain and France, engaged in a struggle for control of Europe, rationalized the plunder of U.S. shipping as incidental to war and necessary for their survival."

Yeah I can see you know what you're talking about. :)

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Well I see there is no changing your mind.

So that ends this exchange.

I can't even imagine how frustrated you are going to be the rest of your life with politics, considering no other human being on Earth is going to 100% agree with Ron Paul. (Including Ron Paul himself, who has changed his mind before.)

But keep bashing Rand. I think you will be more helpful to his future campaign as his opposition.

I don't need them to agree with him 100%

but there are plenty of people who do and who knows if one of them will step up.

Tom Woods and Judge Nap come to mind as the most well know...so all of the gibberish I hear from people telling me we'll never get another Ron Paul just isn't true.

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Justin Amash is far closer

Justin Amash is far closer than Rand to be "another Ron Paul." Frankly, so is Johnson.