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Gordon Duff: US military planned mutiny to topple Obama

The Obama administration has had American military, both on domestic and foreign bases on high alert since October 1. However, there has been no known terrorist enemy threatening the US. The enemy is called “domestic” but its origins are far from American.

Today, Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette was “fired” from his command of one of the three carrier battle groups back to Bremerton, Washington to face an investigation.

It is impossible to adequately state how unusual this is and how serious.

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Not nearly enough evidence or

Not nearly enough evidence or proof.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Original article here much easier on the eyes

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/31/press-tv-us-military...

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

Pollman, can you please post some of the text?

The link is blocked on my PC. Thanks!

ronpaul1fan try this proxy link

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.vetera...

ps: what gulag are you working in? : )

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

well if this story puts some of you daily paulers up in arms

check this one out
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/01/romney-leaks-drugs-b...

anyone claiming to vote for romney beacause it is the logical thing to do should know about this.

OBUMMER / ROMNEY = BAD

just vote for GJ , lets try to break this two party system up in the next 4 years through radical change, and voting for gary and getting that 5 percent or more wil help

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

There is a whole lot going on with this story...

Obama Administration Replaces Top Generals Following Benghazi Disaster
Posted by Jim Hoft on Saturday, October 27, 2012, 3:45 PM

The latest rumor making the rounds is that Barack Obama replaced General Carter Ham at AFRICOM after the general made a move to help the US security officials at the Benghazi consulate and annex. Ham was replaced by Gen. David Rodriquez on October 18.
Tiger Droppings reported:

The information I heard today was that General [Carter] Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africom.

Sure enough Obama nominated Gen. David Rodriguez to replace Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command.

The Stars and Stripes reported:

(read more)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/was-africom-general-...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/oct/...

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/30/former-pacific-fleet-c...

Rear Admiral removed for sending aid to Libya against orders?

I originally read in the San Diego Union-Tribune that the commander of the Stennis Carrier Group was removed for sending aid to the embassy in Libya after being told to stand down. The article said he was immediately placed under arrest by his 2nd in command.

Now the story has changed... The article has been replaced by this one: Navy denies Stennis leader removed over Libya http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/oct/31/navy-denies-stenn...

Duff states with a wink that his UFO reports are factual

Gordon Duff states with a wink that his UFO reports are absolutely factual. I like reading his articles because they tickle my appreciation for vast military-wing conspiracies. But to take his stuff as anything more than the wish-list of a fantasy role-player is to totally miss the point of his work.

Duff's premise that top officers in the US Armed Forces are capable of mutiny to advance their own agenda is entirely plausible, regardless of the fantastic story he weaves around them.

Morale is at a historic low among troops in the field. Junior officers are totally disenchanted. Top officers are contemptuous of their completely absent commander-in-chief.

One may say Bush was incompetent, but he was an actice C-in-C and earned respect from his officers and troops.

Obama is quite different. In his absence from all military affairs, there is a power vacuum only partially filled by Panetta and Petraeus in their capacity as "the principles committee" which, along with Hillary, actually runs the executive in Obama's prolonged mental absence.

The breakdown at the highest levels of power along with low morale among the recruits has led to splintering of the military into dozens of factions. Insubordination is running hot, as it may be judged from these recent demotions.

Part of the collapse occurring within the military can be seen by recent plans to deal with "sequestration" come January 2013, when the military gets slashed by 25% should no new deal come into play.

This will trounce morale even worse, but it appears Panetta tried to placate the army by stating that officers will not be released from service, nor will they suffer pay cuts. Only NCOs and soldiers will be cut. This is an interesting development as it suggests mutiny is a very real factor, and there is concern that higher officers may "snap" and commit acts of treason or breach of security that could have terrible consequences.

The US Armed Forces is the greatest power the world has ever seen. To have this sort of drama occurring in its ranks from top to bottom as it manoeuvres into position to attack Iran is the pinnacle of tragic comedy.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

UFO Story

I don't necessarily subscribe to everything Gordon Duff writes, he obviously has his own understanding of things and his own sources...But if you dismiss the UFO story as fantasy or make believe then you're missing a big part of the overall picture. I suggest you keep digging.

This piece strikes me as

a month's worth of leftovers thrown together in a pot and then served up. There are some true bits and pieces that are like a nice bbq spare rib that happens to be swimming in a pool of of chicken noodle soup, mayonnaise, tuna fish juice, and meatloaf.

CRAZY thing but MAYBE...

I've been recently thinking of the possibility that Obama might be a double-agent. Was talking with a very wise man recently who quoted someone I can't remember who but he said:

"If you want to get rid of a bad law, enforce it RUTHLESSLY."

Now apply that statement to everything Obama has been doing in the last 4 years... Thanks to Obama we have occupy and the tea party... we have the NDAA which put in clear view what presidents had basically already been doing since before even the Patriot Act... the Health Care law, the crapload of executive orders... the Birth Certificate Long Form that was practically screaming out CATCH ME CATCH ME!!! He's not exactly being very shy about putting it in your face that the PRESIDENT is A DICTATOR - COMPLETELY unaccountable...

Obama was former CIA - is there the remote possibility that he was actually trained to infiltrate and become president to overthrow the whole mess while waking up a sleeping population?

Obama was former CIA? News to me!

Tell me more about this CIA gig....

obamas

WHITE grandfather , anne dunham's dad , was CIA and through the CIA had a connection with Beerick Obama Sr. , a student from kenya.

Anne dunham did not have sex with the pronounced Beerick , she had sex with a Frank marshall Davis. They used Beerick as the father because the CIA Grandfather had plans to use the grandson in the future and to be molded a certain way. Just look at how many dumbfucks out there fell for his message of hope and change. Really! it all makes sense to me now.

dreams from my real father explains it all.

Obummer admits that alot of his memoirs are all ficticous, from made up girlfriends to made up stories about his dad which was actually frank marshall davis. Think about this , what was the point of the teen barack obama being introduced to frank marshall davis at all. These two people should never had known each other.

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

Yeah me too!

Although I did hear (to be taken with a spoonful of salt, but since this thread is so out there anyway) that Obama's mother, Anne Dunham (?) was a CIA asset, that through her Obama is in fact a blood relative of the Bush family, and that is why he was deemed a safe placeholder President while the junta in charge plan WWIII.

Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

Use discernment.

Remember hearsay is not evidence.

Interesting read however...

My advise is to pray. From where I sit with respect to wading through all the dis-information and mass psy-ops with virtually nothing of substance to grasp... all I can do is ask God to please help us out.

Media is

one of the most important assets of the gov power. CIA & MI6 keeps Western media in check, FSB Russian, Chinese secret service its own.

Feeding us Iranian media stories is so lame....

Which would be worse, our

Which would be worse, our republocrat duopolocy or a military dictatorship?

According the author

these officers had ties to "extremist elements" and the Israeli lobby. Doesn't sound like much of a "coup". Pretty sure those guys are already in control.

I'm not completely sure Obama

is on Israel's side. Why haven't we attacked Iran? Doesn't seem like Netanyahoo has been getting much of what he has wanted lately... so hard to see through the fog.

Also: The US contingent recently did not walk out when when Iran's president was addressing the UN assembly... although Israel's did...

"Why haven't we attacked Iran?"

My guess is because both Russia and China are allies of Iran and could easily nuke the living crap out of us.

duff

duff claims iran has already purchased 5 russian made ukranian mirvs , but cant use them because they are 550 kt , far too large for any kind of tactical nature, they will however use them on an american fleet in the ocean if and when they decide to attack, but not over any type of city because the devastation would be too tremendous.

fact:

us has used tactical nuclear weapons in iraq. look up fallujah

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

Except

in doing so, they'd essentially be nuking themselves. China knows that the USG, along with most Americans, are batshit crazy and don't know the definition of the word "overkill". Plus, all that radiation wouldn't just stay put...

As far as Russia, I think them nuking the US would be a bit of a disproportionate response on their part, no? Not saying they wouldn't back the Chinese if it came down to it, but I've always got the impression that the Russians like China about as much as they like the US.

Who knows, though? Honestly, I'd expect us to nuke ourselves and blame it on someone else before I'd expect another nation to actually do it.

A signature used to be here!

it would be

mutual destruction....but yah china has to much invested overwhere it would be real bad move for them...but china just recently is able hit US with their nukes from their homeland ..and russias nukes are overated and they dont even have as many as they used to...and they are also delapitated...US has like close to 300k and we can hit any continent in the world indefinately...we have enough nuke power to destroy the world 3 times over...the arms treaty didnt apply to us...between our nukes and our subs and airforce ...even with china's millions of man army would get their asses handed to them badly...that goes for russia as well...they couldnt even take afganistan...the dirt bag scum leaders we have made sure we stayed far ahead of the curve!

Also alot of reason we havent attacked iran is not just china and russia...but the fact that to many americans dont want it...to many are fed up with the wars and are vocal about it...it would be political suicide for obama...not to mention we are broke!

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves...the land of liberty needs a regime change!

kinda confusing

first the author says there was a plot to overthrow bush and cheney because they stole nuclear warheads.which would have been a good thing for us. but now he says the military is hungry for war and wants to overthrow obama and stage a false flag attack on us so we go to war with iran and the rest of the middle east.so which is it? are the military the good guys or not? either i read this wrong or overthrowing the current administration would be bad for us. or maybe this is pro obama propaganda? i dont get it. could someone please translate this confusing article?

They referenced

Veterans Today, and after some of the crazy things I have read on that site, I cannot believe anything that comes from them.

What do I mean? Check out this article from them from a month or so ago:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-...

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

My guess is...

My guess is that it is a psy-ops thing to help rally the Democrat base.

All I can say is...

99% (could be 100%) of all this stuff is hearsay...

What can we lay down that we KNOW?

The article comes from press

The article comes from press tv which is a news organization from Iran or should I say a propaganda organization. Our propaganda machines have portrayed them as a bunch of crazy people who will give nuclear weapons to terrorists. Now it looks like they are trying to turn the tables.

More power to them. Free

More power to them. Free markets at work. Maybe the peoples will start deciding for themself's who is telling the truth.