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Scientists offer quantum theory of soul's existence

A PAIR of world-renowned quantum scientists say they can prove the existence of the soul.

American Dr Stuart Hameroff and British physicist Sir Roger Penrose developed a quantum theory of consciousness asserting that our souls are contained inside structures called microtubules which live within our brain cells.

Their idea stems from the notion of the brain as a biological computer, "with 100 billion neurons and their axonal firings and synaptic connections acting as information networks".

Dr Hameroff, Professor Emeritus at the Departments of Anesthesiology and Psychology and Director of the Centre of Consciousness Studies at the University of Arizona, and Sir Roger have been working on the theory since 1996.

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The very essence of quantum phyics is that consciousness...

i.e., the observer, existence OUTSIDE of space/time. If this were not so, consciousness would exist only as a POSSIBILITY to be "collapsed" into reality. Taking this to a logical conclusion, YOU are God observing your own creation; YOU have chosen "selective amnesia" in order to experience your creation and continuously create throughout eternity. Every answer already exists within you and will be revealed when you allow yourself to unlock your memory. This is why, an Eastern custom is to bow to anyone you meet.

Actually, no

that's not the very essence of quantum physics. That's you postulating.

The essence of quantum physics is quantum theory which says energy is not continuous, there exists wave/particle duality, and it's not possible to know both the momentum and position of a particle at the same time.

As for the "observer" aspect that is known as the observer effect:



The way I understand it is that we are all part of one larger consciousness that is trying to understand itself. (God maybe) Yes you can create and collapse reality in and out of existence(If you know how which most of us don't) but we are all part of a whole. Not us supposedly being God ourselves, but PART of God. That's the way I learned it anyway.



So when you are saying "YOU are god" you actually mean that everyone is god in different states of being then that mean that all i'm doin all day long is talkin to myself, and daydreaming about hotter versions of myself, going on dailypaul and checkin out all the ridiculous bills I pass, goin to war over oil with myself, realizing that even though I am god I don't really think it is necessary that I bow to myself, just waitin to unlock my memory? Totally a logical conclusion! :-)

Think of a character in a video game.

What if the character became consciously disconnected from you (God) and began acting independently? That is your ego and ego has traditionally been seen as the "enemy" of God in both Eastern and Western religions and philosophies.

Your link to your higher self in Christianity is referred to as "Christ consciousness" or "the Holy Ghost". How your ego deals with the "Christ consciousness" is referred to as "conscience". In Christianity, ignoring your higher self (lying to yourself) is called "denying the Holy Ghost" and it is the ONLY "unforgivable sin".

By the way, you ego determines your external appearance. You want a "hotter appearance" then deal with your ego. Just be aware, physical beauty comes at a price.

As far as "going to war with oneself," you might want to study up on the concept of "multiverse"; or, better still, re-watch the movie "Inception" and pay special attention to what Leonardo DiCaprio says about the other people who exist with you in "dream states".

not my thought but makes sense

Guess I am bored, the argument that something came from nothing is not possible, could that same argument be made for any one of mankind's Gods? I know borrowed from Dawkins. Voting for anyone but the DUO.


A is A. :) I guess it all

A is A.


I guess it all depends on what your definition of A is.


I'll read up on this for awhile

My comment

not being totally related to the origins of the soul, but science teaches that everything comes from something. With that being said, I do not understand how they can discover how matter came into existence, for nothing spontaneously comes into existence, it has to come from somewhere.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Read Lawrence Krauss's book

entitled, "A universe from nothing".

We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. - Stefan Molyneux

You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing. - Alan Watts

Your understanding of quantum physics is truly appallling.

The essence of quantum physics is that EVERY possibility exists as a POTENTIAL and what "collapses" into reality is based upon the observer.

Very similar to what I have read about

the Biocentric Theory, proposed by Robert Lanza. I highly recommend his book, "Biocentrism", if you have not already read it. Being a very very new theory of everything, it has some holes, albeit it is fundamentally scientifically sound.

We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. - Stefan Molyneux

You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing. - Alan Watts

But if there exist...

quantum potentials, that is reality, just at a more fundamental form, right? Quantum principles are not nothing.

No more appalling

than your lack of civility.

Really? I am simply making an observation that you...

do not know about what you speak and that your statements, intentionally or not, will mislead others. I make plenty of mistakes myself, but I do not lash out if someone shows me how I am incorrect.

You are right,

I do not have a firm grasp on quantum physics, if you can direct me to a book to read I would be grateful.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Also, HYPERSPACE by Dr. Michio Kaku

Kaku's book is quite an entertaining read and is quite accessible even to those, like myself, who lack a solid background in physics.

I would also suggest you find an easy-read book of the Khaballah and an analysis of the Buddhist Lotus Sutra.

Quantum Enigma:

Physics Encounters, Consciousness by Bruce Rosenblum and Fred Kuttner. I bought the book recently, but haven't had time to read it yet. It drew high ratings on Amazon, though. I believe the authors are quoted in this very interesting video on consciousness/soul by Mike Adams: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thM3SHCXP0o

Interesting. Thanks!

Interesting. Thanks!

Blessings )o(

Philosophically unsound concept.

Bart sold his soul to Milhouse. You don't know what you've got til its gone. Fun concepts to play with but not logical.

If what they say is true they merely discovered a new form of the intellect not a soul.

All of nature is cause and affect, including quantum interactions.

Thy probably just stumbled into the Thetans.

A soul yearns to understand, hope and care, seeking to make real what is outside of nature.

Is a decision freely made not an infection.

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On the contrary, quantum physics treats cause and effect...

as an illusion. Past, present and future are all renewed instant by instant and actions from the "future" can effect decisions made in the "past" in order to create the "present". In truth, at least according to quantum physics, all exists simultaneously. As far as philosophy is concerned, why do you think so many philosophers and theologians refer to "the end of time"?

The end of space-time is

The end of space-time is conjecture.

The end of our time as a Species seems likely as our ability to escape to someplace safe is so far beyond our reach.

Can Philosophy and Theology prevent our last cry being that of terror?

And the band played on...

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Re: The end of......

What tune were they playin?

Just wondering.....

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Kept on playing...


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Remember the ole 80's sayin.....

"Getting Small," I beleive it was coined by Steve Martin.

Well last night, I was having one of those moments, lookin at the stars and seeing how small a STAR waz. Thinking the thing was actually massive and yet soooo much space around it. AND it was all real, even if I could not grasp the reality.

Also, I just realized that the end of space-time could depend on which zone your in!?.....

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

I think it is funny for you to say so

can you give your credentials please?

I can provide arguments, the only claim I have.

I can provide credentialed authorities, but in the end each has to think for themselves.

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It just made me chuckle

Here are these doctors, and physicists talking about quantum science and you say it is philosophically unsound.

And now you are telling me everyone has to think for themselves. I am laughing again...I bet these guys do a lot of thinking. Probably all day long LOL That is probably all they do all day long...LOL

Seems to me they are just talking about quantum information continuing to exist within the universe after death.

Never mind me, I don't have any credentials. I just thought it was funny and decided to say so. I am glad I did because you have made me laugh some more. I bet my quantum information is going to have a laugh in it that goes into the universe when I die!

LOL you have put me to tears.

Have a good one.

What is a soul anyways?


I am a silly man. I work with what I have.

Man created Time so everything doesn't happen at once.

Man created space so everything didn't happen to him.

Philosophy starts with the liberty of the soul unconditioned by space and time.

Consciousness is a natural process in space and time.

The task of science is to apply Occam's Razor leaving what is provable, universally.

The task of philosophy is to suggest that the Razor was mishandled.

Nature and Liberty, Physics and Metaphysics, how can a soul solve the paradox. By thinking, of course!

I might be wrong. But to me this is as obvious as the broken window fallacy in economics. It disturbs the harmony of the universe's vibes.

Mixing metaphor and science is like mixing oil and vinegar: Bad science, good dressing.

As for the possibility of quantum thinking, that is fascinating.

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An the possibility of quantum laughing...

...I wonder if it makes any sound?