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A Response from Senator Rand Paul about Homeland Security‏


I recently wrote to Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky about my concerns with Homeland Security (TSA) and FEMA. FEMA recently graduated about 230 "students" in Vicksberg, Mississippi stating they were trained for emergency situations. The students were hand picked from Obama's Ameri Corps (gov't funded: remember that?). FEMA comes under control of the Department of Homeland Security during "National Emergencies". I asked why do they need tons of ammunition and armored vehicles if they are there to assist victims of natural disasters? I also told him that more and more of our bureocracies are reminding me of Hitler's NAZI movement. Now we have Hitler Youth being trained by FEMA!!! Are they being trained in the use of weapons against American citizens? Recall that during Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans that the National Guard was confiscating people guns and ammo!!!

Sounds unbelievable but read the Senator's response to me and decide for yourselves.

Dave Jennings

From: senator@paul.senate.gov
To: djjennglen@msn.com
Subject: Reply from Senator Rand Paul
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:31:10 -0400

October 31, 2012

Dear Mr. and Mrs. Jennings,

Thank you for contacting me regarding your privacy concerns with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). I appreciate hearing your thoughts on this issue.

Since the creation of DHS in 2002, its size and scope has grown exponentially, and its policies invade Americans' privacy on a daily basis. In addition to its use of invasive full-body scanners and pat-downs at airports, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has started deploying new Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response (VIPR) teams to patrol and perform random inspections at transportation facilities in major cities and along interstate highways.

DHS also maintains over 70 fusion centers around the nation for the collection and sharing of intelligence related to potential terrorist threats. The fusion centers are shrouded in secrecy and are subject to little oversight or transparency. Reports issued by some of the fusion centers have warned that the possession of "Don't Tread on Me" flags, third-party or independent political paraphernalia, and the purchase of meals ready-to-eat (MREs) or other surplus military goods are warning signs of potential extremism and radicalization. I do not believe that the federal government should be profiling its citizens on the basis of legal purchases or the exercise of constitutionally protected speech.

I also do not believe that protecting Americans from the threat of terrorism involves a unilateral sacrifice of privacy and first amendment rights. Rest assured I will continue to hold DHS responsible for its actions and fight for national security policies that protect our civil liberties.

Once more, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of assistance in the future. I look forward to hearing from you again.



Rand Paul, MD
United States Senator

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This was a canned response

I'm not trying to criticize Rand, they all do it. I wrote to Marco Rubio about pharmaceutical company liability and received a letter back thanking me for my interest in "animal rights". WTF? It's obvious to me that a bunch of students/interns skim correspondence and shoot off a response prewritten. We saw much of the same with Audit the Fed requests.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

Ron's Boy Will Be a Major Player

He is the one , his rhetoric now and again is meant to be confusing , but this dog will hunt one day

"You Cannot Stop An Idea Whose Time Has Come"

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Sounds like

he's on the right side to me...:)

Our future president.

Our future president.


Rand makes me proud to be a RepubliCAN.

Ron Paul wants money for Justin Amash NOW.


Trying to get this thread on the front page...

The man knows his liberty!

The man knows his liberty!

Good response Rand......

but actions speak louder than words. Now drop the Romney endorsement and make a public statement admitting your sanction vote was a huge mistake.

Now those would be actions worthy of praise. Leadership requires action, not lip service!

I may not like some of his words (endorsements)...

But I, for one, sure do like his actions.

Filibustering/Opposing the Patriot Act

Rand Paul Amendment Barring War With Iran, Syria Added To Sanctions Bill

Rand Paul: Iran Containment Resolution Means Preemptive War

Opposing Drones passionately...

More and more Liberty lovers

More and more Liberty lovers are getting back on board with Rand. Some were blind stricken with the Romney endorsement, and wouldn't see it for the politicking that it was.

His voting record speaks for itself. People will bring up that sanctions bill he voted yes to, but he was the only Senator to vote no on giving the President the ability to do "whatever is necessary" against Iran just a month ago.

Those pesky cranky "people"

Those pesky cranky "people" will also bring up his support for MORE aid to the Likud government and his support for A Libya No Fly Zone.

Disturbing but I looked it up the no fly zone was slipped in

the bill those voting on it could not have know it was there...

This was done underhandedly otherwise why would rand shoot himself in the foot, damage his reputation make some material for a hit-piece for a bill that was going pass easily whatever way he voted?


You forget that nobody was

You forget that nobody was objecting to a No Fly Zone at the time, except Ron. Beck, Hannity and others only made their objection later. For this reason, it is plausible to me that that Rand, assuming he is an opportunist, had no problem with the vote. Even if privately objected, he might have felt (as is his MO on other votes) that it wasn't worth making a fight. I am dubious of the "slipped in" theory especially since Rand, whatever his faults, is no fool and presumably would have been on guard during the interventionist atmosphere that surrounded that vote.

BTW, has Rand ever claimed that he didn't know what was going on in the hours and day after the vote? If someone had done this to me, I'd be screaming bloody murder as soon as it was announced.

That is a pretty crappy resume.....

Rand's meaningless amendment is not an accomplishment, neither is filibustering or all the other lip service you listed.

The truth is Rand has ZERO accomplishments. Besides, Presidents ignore the Constitutional requirement for a Congressional declaration of war, why the hell would a meaningless amendment by a first term Senator be followed?

Let's be real here.

By your logic

Ron accomplished nothing while he was a Representative...

I don't particularly like Rand

and I'm not justifying anything here but it is really tough, IF, you are pushing Liberty to get the rest of the neocon warmongering socialist appointed thugs in Washington to back anything that doesn't benefit them or their special interest buddies. (which does really wind up benefiting them in the end too)

Dr.Paul had a hard time in that den of vipers too.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Yeah. I've got a great idea ..

Since you obviously are Mr Wizard and know better than anyone how easy it is to change things ...

We appoint you to go to the Beltway and highhandedly whip it all into shape.

Go on. We'll back you. What do you need?

Dictator powers? Sure, no problem, I'm sure everyone on the DP will vote to give them to you. You are obviously a benevolent, wise individual. I'm sure you'll give them up when your done fixing it all.

Maybe you only need to take a loaded pistol up there and wave it in everyone's face.

Damn. I really wish you would have done something sooner. With losers like Rand up there .. wasting time ..

When it would have taken you like ..what? 10 minutes?

Awesome. You go

Your argument reminds me of

Your argument reminds me of that made by some anti-Rand Paul types I've met to shut down any criticism. Believe or not my friend, there are legitimate reasons to criticize Rand.

One can find "legitimate" reasons to criticize anyone

It doesn't make it necessarily reasonable or warranted.

I've found most people that go out of their way to recognize imperfections or marginal disagreements, and turn them into huge terrifying flaw or irreconcilable differences ...

.. to be perfectionists (in an imperfect world) that are always miserable because nothing and no-one ever can live up to their false expectations.

And often times they are just assholes.

Sure.....some people do. For

Sure.....some people do. For my part, I've always tried to defend Rand when he was right. A case in point was his correct vote against GMO labeling.