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If Ron Paul Made A Compelling Endorsement For Gary Johnson Would You Change Your Vote?

This is only for people who are writing in Ron Paul. I'd like to find out if Ron Paul could make the case for you to vote for Gary Johnson if he came out and expressed the need to unite the liberty movement in opposition to the two party duopoly.

Ron won't come right out and endorse anyone this time. I think he got too much backlash the last time he did that.

HE DIDN'T ENDORSE ANYONE LAST TIME.

He said people should vote third party and did not endorse ANYONE.

I'm seriously starting to think RON PAUL'S JOB IS TO DIVIDE THE OPPOSITION AND THIS IS PROOF - TWO CAMPAIGNS IN A ROW HE GAVE UP AND DID NOT ENDORSE ANYONE.

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I want to hear from Ron Paul supporters what the game plan is if

Romney wins.

I've asked this question numerous times and all the write-in and anti-GJ simply ignore it like the media ignored RP.

I'm a Libertarian registered as unaffiliated and voted for RP in the primaries as a tactical move to bring a liberty-minded candidate forward. In other words, I didn't put my party above liberty.

Most of the criticism I hear against GJ sounds like the same arguments the GOP used against RP.

So, any anti-GJ write-in RP voters want to tell us what the game plan is to bring another liberty-minded candidate forward if Romney wins?

I don't expect an answer but I have to ask. If you're going to vote this comment down, have the courage to say why or answer the question.

RP needs to endorse GJ. He

RP needs to endorse GJ. He really should have. RP has nothing to lose.

I wonder how many RP

I wonder how many RP supporters are voting for Gary Johnson. I am.

Good grief

You really don't trust Ron Paul, do you, unless he does things exactly the way you want him to.

You really think that him endorsing Gary Johnson would unify our movement? It won't. Those who are set on writing in Paul's name would feel betrayed and would write him in anyway or not write at all, most likely. I am a fence-sitter in this issue, torn between Johnson and Paul, but I would actually question the motivation behind such an endorsement at this point more than I'd question the "vote your conscience" advice. Paul has a habit of doing things that are not politically advantageous, of going against the grain for the sake of purity and principle. He's already told us all to vote our conscience, since he doesn't want to do our thinking and decision-making for us. Why would he change that?

Maybe you feel frustrated at his maverick behavior. Maybe you now understand why so many people in Congress from his own party hated him: he didn't do what they wanted, and they hated him for it. Here he is, this man of such upstanding character, and he won't lend his reputation to their causes! They'll call him names for it, accuse him of false things (like what you're doing now), and emphasize his failures because he didn't cooperate with them.

Personally, I would've been disappointed in him if he went against his own character and endorsed someone for political, not principled, reasons. And this endorsement you're wanting is strictly political: endorse Johnson so Johnson can get more votes. Nevermind that not every Paul supporter would naturally want to follow Johnson. Nevermind that I think the one reason why the Libertarian party has been relatively uncorrupted so far is BECAUSE of their lack of power and money, and that suddenly getting money and power would introduce corruption into the party.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

Ron endorsed Baldwin last

Ron endorsed Baldwin last time.

I would vote for Gumby before I'd vote

for Gary AKA Tickle-Me-Gitmo.

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Ron Paul or Gumby?

Pick either one, your vote goes to the same place and is worthless. Write in Ron Paul, then get drunk and watch a bunch of Ron Paul re-runs on YouTube.

Ron Paul left the last chapter of his book blank on purpose. YOU are now supposed to figure things out on your own, don't clench to old videos, DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING! That's what Ron Paul is trying to say.

If RP kicks out tomorrow, you are supposed to be (and need to be) a critical thinker, that's his whole message....THINK

Faded photographs and one too many cocktails aren't helping.

Pick something...anything real.

If ANYONE made a compelling argument

I would change my vote.

He won't....and no.

I'm starting to think....that your not thinking. Fair tax? Really? School vouchers? Maintain a presence in the Middle East? And who is controlled opposition?

Liberty or Death

Some days I dream...

Some days I dream about the impossible but I always seem to wake up. Keep dreaming Johnson lovers, the rest of us are wide awake.

RickStone

No

I don't do what I'm told. I do what I think is right. Still writing in Ron Paul.

Blessings )o(

Good enough

the only people being divisive

the only people being divisive are these johnson supporters. you're the ones that are telling us to leave the GOP and join up with the good for nothing Libertarian Party, after all the progress we've made at the grassroots for the past 4-5 years. our plan from the start was to take over the GOP, that was ron's plan. you're just trying to prey on those who were disillusioned and disenfranchised by the establishment.
after the election the johnsonites will be gone and will have done nothing for the liberty movement - not so with the ron paul republicans.

... now that i think about it, all this pro-johnson campaigning on here could very well just be a ploy by the establishment to convince us to leave the GOP.

You don't have to leave the GOP

to vote for GJ. If Ron does run in 2016 do you think it will be as a Republican or a Libertarian. My guess, Libertarian.

Well it is sort of a B.S.

Well it is sort of a B.S. question because Ron will never endorse Gary.

However, the only way I do not write-in Ron Paul is if he asks me not to, in which case I will write-in somebody else.

However, since Ron actually consented to being a write-in candidate in at least one state (Maine), I seriously doubt he is going to urge people not to, especially if they feel so compelled by conscience to do so.

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!

You don't know what you are talking about

"HE DIDN'T ENDORSE ANYONE LAST TIME."

In 2008 he endorsed Chuck Baldwin.

He did!

And so did I.

Nope.

I don't want Gary Johnson, only want Ron Paul and my vote will reflect MY choice, and nobody else's.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

Love to everyone.....Vote from your heart.

Wish all this would stop.
I'll be happy when the election is over, The winner will be who TPTB want it to be, it's rigged!
THEN
We can all work together to get rid of the voting machines, back to paper to make sure 2016 is an honest election! That's if all the pushing and name calling doesn't drive everyone away, making enemies instead of friends.
People aren't going to change their minds. Vote for one of the two puppets, as a strategical move[the 4 yr. vs 8 yr. thing], vote for GJ, write in Ron Paul, refuse to participate in the sham, whatever you want, without a paper ballot counted in front of everyone, it's nothing but an exercise of wrists.
United we can accomplish wonders. Do what YOU think is best and put your thoughts to the solution of having honest elections. The machines have to GO!
Be an organizer, an originator of ideas, the one with a plan of action.

Deekey

Not voting does not require paper ballots - lol!

Great post, we really must learn to focus on our common ground and stop bickering about things we will probably never agree on. (I did my stint as "cat herder" - nuts to that!) Just one thing? Some of us are simply not interested in electing another human to rule over us.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

I can't wait for it to end also.

This place is a wreck right now! lol

Great post, and well said.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

Ron won't come right out and

Ron won't come right out and endorse anyone this time. I think he got too much backlash the last time he did that.

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He didn't get backlash, most

He didn't get backlash, most people were very pleased with his endorsement of Chuck Baldwin.

Debbie

NEWSFLASH

HE DIDN'T ENDORSE ANYONE LAST TIME.

He said people should vote third party and did not endorse ANYONE.

I am seriously starting to think RON PAUL'S JOB IS TO DIVIDE THE OPPOSITION AND THIS IS PROOF - TWO CAMPAIGNS IN A ROW HE GAVE UP AND DID NOT ENDORSE ANYONE.

Why do you keep insisting

Why do you keep insisting that Ron did not endorse in 2008. He vocally and actively supported Dr. Chuck Baldwin from the Constitution Party and issued this statement explaining why.

http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-23/ron-paul-endorses-chuck-ba...

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!

You need to brush up on your facts

http://www.newswithviews.com/BreakingNews/breaking160.htm

Ron Paul endorsed Chuck Baldwin in 2008. What is your deal with disinformation spreading? Do you not know, did you not check, do you not care?

Initially, Ron Paul did NOT endorse anyone.

He endorsed "third party." Then Bob Barr stabbed him (and all of us) in the back, so he endorsed Chuck Baldwin. It is possible that he is no spreading "disinfo" or "misinfo" - it is quite possible that...
1. He forgot - it was 4 years ago now.
2. He saw the first endorsement and not the second.
3. Other possibility I have not thought of.

Here's the thing, he is here trying to be your ally. Why don't you correct him when he makes an error and stop short of judging his motives?

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Oh, Its a He?

I thought it was a She. Well then that makes all the sense in the world. snark snark :)

No, I don't think he is trying to be my ally. He has already pre-judged me as an unenlightened sheep: http://www.dailypaul.com/261248/write-in-ron-paul-is-a-romne...

"SHEEP: Down-vote it. Enlightened ones: Up-vote it.

P.S. Just because you SAY you are enlightened doesn't make it so. Romney says plenty of stuff all the time that isn't true."
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IMO anyone badgering anyone into voting a certain way is not an ally to be trusted.

If he was wrong or misinformed, all he needs to do is man up and say it and quit hiding behind badgering language.

You might also look at that title: http://www.dailypaul.com/261248/write-in-ron-paul-is-a-romne... of that post and ask Missouri’s DP OFallonBrent if he has succumbed to Romney campaign division. Do you know Brent Stafford? http://www.dailypaul.com/221346/this-is-brent-stafford-from-...

A great ally in my book. Here I talked to him today: http://www.dailypaul.com/261219/ron-paul-write-in-is-not-jus... HE IS WRITING IN RON PAUL HERE IN MISSOURI. I dare call him a sheep or unenlightened.

I don’t mind all the Gary Johnson campaign stuff, but when it resorts to false information, lies and coercion I am going to say so and if the person making the post can defend their position, so be it. I am more than happy to be corrected. I rather know better than believe a lie.

Besides I added a qualifier: "Do you not know, did you not check, do you not care?" I guess I could have added, or did you forget. My bad.

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He won't, and no, I already know Ron undervalues himself

and I don't.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

Not quite..

Ron Paul: "I think [Gary Johnson] is wonderful and I think he’s doing a good job, and people should look at him, and every individual should make up their own mind."

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.